Thread: Password shared dreaming experiment

Job Interview, Open Ceiling - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

The first dream involved a job interview, and then I was climbing on top of a ceiling, and the interior of the building was mostly made of white-coated wood.

The color white taking some role in the environment is becoming more apparent in my dreams, but of course, I haven't made any progress with this lucidity because going back and forth in this road trip forces me to sleep at random intervals at night.

And since I'm afraid to use my laptop alarm, I can't do WBTB in other people's houses without worrying about their own inconvenience.

Anyway, will sleep it off again, and set the intent of finding the password.

Take care everyone!

Originally Posted by Chimpertainment

let us into the cathedral mindraker!!!! lol

LOL, I was about to say, if we were trying to find that Cathedral altar still, we're doing an awesome job, guys.

Something is strange. I just got back from downtown, and I bought a neckscarf from a store. It's one of those religious/incense candle - crystal shops that smell really nice as you go in. Well, it took me about 20 minutes to decide my neckscarf. I got my little neckscarf, put it on, went to the bus station. I waited for my bus, and the bus drove back to my apartment. Someone on the bus asked if I was "OK". I thought I was...
I came in to my apartment, and thought my neckscarf smelled a little too powerful of incense. So I rinsed it off in the sink, and it's drying now. My neck has a tingly-burning sensation... and I noticed that my eyes are WIDELY dilated, even though it's 1 PM and for some strange reason, I can't focus properly.
I think I'm going to take a nap.

^^ Damn.

Be sure to let us know if you woke up...

Originally Posted by debrajane

Dear Windhover

Will you do me a favour?

I get mixed-up and confused (easy) when trying to navigate around this huge Dreamviews site. I followed your link. But can't find the Thread you want me to read. Could you link me to one thread.

If you like, please open a thread, yourself, and we can talk about the NEW IOSDP (International oneironaut Shared Dreaming Project). I want to understand it and play, (do it).

Will you help me, Windhover?



And "Password" participants

I am thinking of choosing a night. Maybe ... ummm ... what's today? It's nearly 10 PM Thursday 26-July here, now. So I pick Wednesday 1-August. I'll make an incubation affirmation to zero-in on remembered dreams of that night.

I'll use Dale Graff's incubation advice.

Sorry I haven't seen your post earlier. I'll just post a link here in case if anybody is interested in http://www.dreamviews.com/f144/new-s...roject-134379/
I think we are having synchs after few attempts.

Sorry again interrupting guys, but good luck for the experiment

Nothing too interesting for last night.

I met a brunette who suggested I make a love song when I was speculating and worrying on how I can finish some random drawing project I was doing at a computer lab.

Another involved me killing someone, and then a dream rewind or dream reset where there's another (or the same girl) who is dead, without me being there with blood on my hands.

Love Song, Store Killing - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Originally Posted by Linkzelda

Nothing too interesting for last night.

I met a brunette who suggested I make a love song when I was speculating and worrying on how I can finish some random drawing project I was doing at a computer lab.

Another involved me killing someone, and then a dream rewind or dream reset where there's another (or the same girl) who is dead, without me being there with blood on my hands.

Love Song, Store Killing - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

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Originally Posted by Sageous

^^ Damn.

Be sure to let us know if you woke up...

Yeah, I'm fine now, thanks.

^^ Phew!

Only 1-2 days until I get back home, and hopefully make some progress with this. Anyway, I had a dream where I put in a few quarters at a Casino machine, and ended up winning $1,500 in total.

Winning at Casino - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

I am a beginner even while going to lucid stage; the best I tried, leads me to a stage were I am awake and my body is sleeping(experiencing sleep paralysis). This night while experiencing the same, I asked myself what is the password(I completely missed the cathedral part), a pixel started multiplying itself and when the screen made by those was almost 12*8ft big with a (blurred)human face on it, it said 'Condolence'.
P.S- I thought I had written it somewhere so I won't forget, but I forgot and this is the word that I remember after thinking really hard.

Finally back home, maybe now I can get somewhere.

Anyway, some dream elements to point out:

-Elevators
-Naruto Shippuden (I haven't watched that at all lately, and I had another dream related to drawings of Naruto characters, so I could be on to something, or it could just be a random event that somehow came up in a different way).
-Area with dried up autumn leaves
-Anime (Rave Master)
-Guy in Orange shirt having a gun tucked between his shirt and pants
-Hyu's avatar has a pink background to it (remember the pink bunny outfit someone had in a dream, but didn't get to post it until after you posted the password, "Pink Elephant?").
-A gray timer tick mark with the letter "B" in white font shows up.

And meeting Alyzarin twice, but I don't think that's important, since I'm finding her for personal reasons.

Alyzarin and Rave Master, Naruto Shippuden Resurrection, Raising Suspicion, Hyu, Weird Preacher - Dream Journals - Lucid Dreaming - Dream Views

Originally Posted by Rookie

I am a beginner even while going to lucid stage; the best I tried, leads me to a stage were I am awake and my body is sleeping(experiencing sleep paralysis). This night while experiencing the same, I asked myself what is the password(I completely missed the cathedral part), a pixel started multiplying itself and when the screen made by those was almost 12*8ft big with a (blurred)human face on it, it said 'Condolence'.
P.S- I thought I had written it somewhere so I won't forget, but I forgot and this is the word that I remember after thinking really hard.

Thank you for contributing. We're actually not trying to find the cathedral anymore; we're just trying to see if we can find the shared password. But thank you again for contributing!

I kinda skipped over the last few pages, its 4 in the morning here, but I'll probably read it tomorrow and see if i can contribute..

(Also, found it really funny you chose that cathedral, my apartment is 10 mins walk from there I might as well go and ask the priests what the password is )

Apart from my strange past-midnight-rambling sense of humor, um, could you summarise what the final rules of the experiment are? Is the password preset(you write it down before you go to sleep); is there a common dreamplace to allow the dreamers to connect, etc.?

Originally Posted by wandering

I kinda skipped over the last few pages, its 4 in the morning here, but I'll probably read it tomorrow and see if i can contribute..

(Also, found it really funny you chose that cathedral, my apartment is 10 mins walk from there I might as well go and ask the priests what the password is )

Apart from my strange past-midnight-rambling sense of humor, um, could you summarise what the final rules of the experiment are? Is the password preset(you write it down before you go to sleep); is there a common dreamplace to allow the dreamers to connect, etc.?

As far as I can tell, there are no rules. Mindraker has a word written down and will try to focus on it so it may be in his dreaming mind. Any one who is willing to try, should use any means available to them to try and make enough contact with his dreaming mind to come up with a word that either is the password or seems highly related to the password. We are not doing anything involving a place, that was just an idea from earlier.

So look at his picture (he links to it in a post) and I think he is in the east coast area of the USA, then use any skill you have and make a guess. At some point he will tell us what the password was, and we will see if any interesting results come of it.

Sorry I haven't added anything in a few days. Been gone and away from the internet. Now I'm going from sleeping on the floor for a few days to being back in my own bed so that change will probably result in a lucid tonight and I'll take another stab at the password if I do.

Originally Posted by wandering

I kinda skipped over the last few pages, its 4 in the morning here, but I'll probably read it tomorrow and see if i can contribute..

(Also, found it really funny you chose that cathedral, my apartment is 10 mins walk from there I might as well go and ask the priests what the password is )

Apart from my strange past-midnight-rambling sense of humor, um, could you summarise what the final rules of the experiment are? Is the password preset(you write it down before you go to sleep); is there a common dreamplace to allow the dreamers to connect, etc.?

Small world!

Basically, we have a 1 month period for anyone to try to find the password -- it's not in any designated "place", like the cathedral. Anyone can participate, and you can post your guesses on the forum, no matter how crazy they are. Please feel free to contribute, join, or leave at your desire.

In addition, it isn't necessary (for this experiment) that you sleep at the same exact time as I do.

Originally Posted by sivason

As far as I can tell, there are no rules. Mindraker has a word written down and will try to focus on it so it may be in his dreaming mind. Any one who is willing to try, should use any means available to them to try and make enough contact with his dreaming mind to come up with a word that either is the password or seems highly related to the password. We are not doing anything involving a place, that was just an idea from earlier.

LOL, you are exactly right! This thread began as a serious and logical shared dreaming experiment, and then it turned into a simple "guess the word I'm thinking of" game.

What is really funny, is that during this one month period of trying to "retrieve" the password, we will have so many guesses, that the chances are actually moderately high of someone simply guessing the right password.

Then we will have this person proclaim himself a shared dreamer.

Originally Posted by Gills

LOL, you are exactly right! This thread began as a serious and logical shared dreaming experiment, and then it turned into a simple "guess the word I'm thinking of" game.

What is really funny, is that during this one month period of trying to "retrieve" the password, we will have so many guesses, that the chances are actually moderately high of someone simply guessing the right password.

Then we will have this person proclaim himself a shared dreamer.

Share dreaming happens spontainiously sometimes. I hope MindRaker keeps releasing a password every month for a year or more. It could take a year or more to begin getting close to making "hits".

The International Association of the Study of Dreams (IASD) only give folk (like me) one opportunity in July and three opportunities in October to practice Psi Dreaming each year.

At least MindRaker if offering me 12 opportunities a year.

I have not had a go for the one to be revealed on Wed 22-Aug. I hope to "intend" to dream the password in the dream I wake up from on Sat 11-Aug.

Please don't discourage him.

Last year after the 24/7 two week on-line pdc, 20+ people joined a super-private forum to practice for this years pdc. I got banned 9 days after they let me in.

Now people here on Dreamviews are offering me some practice. I hope MindRaker and others keep offering me opportunities to practice.

Practice makes perfect.

Originally Posted by Gills

What is really funny, is that during this one month period of trying to "retrieve" the password, we will have so many guesses, that the chances are actually moderately high of someone simply guessing the right password.

For all we know Mindraker chose three words at random from the dictionary. If that's the case the chances of some one guessing that combination correctly are astronomical.

Originally Posted by Gills

Then we will have this person proclaim himself a shared dreamer.

Lol, no. If some one actually got the password correct they would have reason to continue experimenting with Mindraker. This thread by itself is obviously not going to prove anything. This thread began as a fun experiment and is still a fun experiment.




To the topic. I probably will only make guesses if I remember to do so in a lucid dream. Otherwise I would have to start dream journaling again. I hate dream journaling.

Originally Posted by Gills

LOL, you are exactly right! This thread began as a serious and logical shared dreaming experiment, and then it turned into a simple "guess the word I'm thinking of" game.

What is really funny, is that during this one month period of trying to "retrieve" the password, we will have so many guesses, that the chances are actually moderately high of someone simply guessing the right password.

Then we will have this person proclaim himself a shared dreamer.

Statistically, though, we have to take into account the percentage of right guesses to wrong guesses.

Let's say the person only guesses one word, and it's right. That's more interesting than if the person posts every word from the dictionary, and obviously, it would include the correct word.

Why? Because in the first case, there is a 1-to-1 ratio of guesses to correct words; in the second case, there is a huge discrepancy between the number of guesses and wrong words.

Then again, let's say the person actually finds the word. Why would the person change his or her guess the next day?

Originally Posted by dms111

Lol, no. If some one actually got the password correct they would have reason to continue experimenting with Mindraker. This thread by itself is obviously not going to prove anything. This thread began as a fun experiment and is still a fun experiment.

Yes, we're all here to have fun, and learn. I'm having fun and enjoying this. I hope you are, too.

We couldn't make *everyone* happy about this experiment, and so we can always try a different experiment. I'm glad that we had so many volunteers for this one. But... what we find out will be helpful for people interested in shared dreaming, regardless of the results.

I'm glad to see the thread is going well.


I suspect that even if these threads survive years it may not show any conclusive evidence of shared dreaming but it's still a worthy subject of discussion.

As for debates...yes, please take them to the other thread. You can copy posts there as needed or I can move them if you need me to.