I am not oppossed to what you have said, but the deffinition of lucid is 'clear.' |
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I've searched many forums to see if people feel this way about psychedelics. I just want people out there who are confused, scared or feeling overly detached from reality, to know that you are not alone (if you even exists ;-P) |
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Last edited by WhiteWind; 12-18-2012 at 03:48 AM.
I am not oppossed to what you have said, but the deffinition of lucid is 'clear.' |
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lucid is the word I've learned to use for dream realization |
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If you're scared of psychedelics then you're doing the right thing by staying away from them. I spent a lot of time in high school reading scientific journals and research papers on various experiments or observations with LSD, shrooms, and other psychedelics. I was fascinated and curious. The experience can have profound affects, and in some cases it was certainly not good. I remember reading a psychology study about a group, and one person had a particularly 'bad trip'. She never recovered from it, and even a year later said she would still look at people and sometimes see hollow, empty skeletons, which is what she experienced under the substance. She later committed suicide. |
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drugs (especialy psychedelics) do not necessarily "decrease lucidity", but rather decrease it in some areas (like the normal areas) and increase it in other areas, opening you up to a new way of thought, understanding and philosophy. and some psychedelics such as dmt do not confuse you or make you drunk at all, but they do open you up to a completely new dimension and realm of ideas. |
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LDing is far more safe and interesting than drugs. Stay away from drugs. I've seen people die from OD. |
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Last edited by Sivason; 12-23-2012 at 07:32 PM.
I think drugs and LDing cannot be compared. |
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that is so stupid. LD and drugs are both interesting but to say LDing is way more interesting than drugs you must know nothing about drugs. what about ayahuasca and dmt? |
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If you convince yourself your an orange and start peeling your skin in an LD, nothing happens your just a happy orange taking his clothes off. |
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Last edited by JeffSteel; 12-24-2012 at 10:31 AM.
Gotta love that analogy, if I would recieve a penny for everytime I've heard the orange analogy to scare kids of drugs. It has to be the most common bullshit way of telling a false propaganda. |
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I'd pick lucids over drugs any day for one simple reason. You can't do anything in a lucid dream that will harm you in any way, no matter what you think or do if you have a clear awareness of the lucid dream nothing can stand in your way. |
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Its an urban legend, doesn't make it any less possible I've tried 3.5g of brazillian goldcaps and it was a bad trip, not just bad but nightmarish. I can totally see how someone could hurt himself or go insane if he doesn't know whats about to hit him. Discount it as bullshit if you want but there is legitimacy in the scare, and saying that there isn't is just a druggies naive reaction. |
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The word "drugs" isn't very specific. Caffeine is a drug, should no one drink coffee? It's impossible to OD on cannabis, LSD, or mushrooms. It has never happened. Thousands of people have overdosed and died on caffeine, but that was from stupidly high amounts and I still wouldn't tell someone not to use caffeine because some people do stupid things. Not all drugs are dangerous. |
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Last edited by Woodstock; 12-24-2012 at 05:28 PM.
I picked up somewhere that the state of your brain on mushrooms is identical to the state of REM-sleep. The only difference being that you are completely awake. (most of the time unable to sleep at all, no matter how physically tired you are at that moment) |
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Come now. I am hearing both extreams, but little ballanced truth. |
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Last edited by Sivason; 12-24-2012 at 08:29 PM.
I can agree with sivason - during the 90's I did my share, and I had a mystical intention with plans to experiment with consciousness and reality in my altered states. However, time and again I did not create the set and setting, and rather just went along with other fools I happened to be in company with, whose intentions were different from mine. I've known two friends who had experiences that changed them forever. One was certainly for the worst, and another for the better. In the first case, a friend who was already prone to self-consciousness and paranoia had those circuits hyper-stimulated. Needless to say hyper-paranoia stuck around long (years) after the drugs wore off. In the better case, a friend experienced telepathy with another close friend. Though such things cannot easily be proven, he felt it and verified it, and it was enough to open his mind to the concepts of reality and the constraints of hard-wired belief-systems. |
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