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      dark: dont worry about one hour, there is still a chance.

      metal: thats very interesting, that would be good if it is true.
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      alright i'm going to the eiffel tower every night i can and i am going to do the same really bizarre thing each time. sooooo if anybodies watching they'll know its me. ^.^
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      I'm not sure that this project will work at all.

      With things like Shared Dreams it is said that you need some sort of connection with the person who you are going to share the dream with. The connection could just be like a picture of the person, you are meant to project your thoughts into their dream.

      If you were doing telepathy you wouldn't just say "ok lets imagine some stuff and see if we know what each other is thinking". You would set out a plan of how to communicate your minds so that you can have one person seeing what the other is thinking.

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      When dreaming your spiritual you is more open so when dreaming its easyer to go telepathic (shared dreams) then when awake

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      But there has been no mention of trying to connect, there is only an assumption that if they all dream of the same place they will meet there.

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      By all wanting to go there to have a shared dream our subconcioussness might automaticly connect us

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      Quote Originally Posted by benTENDO View Post
      I'm not sure that this project will work at all.

      With things like Shared Dreams it is said that you need some sort of connection with the person who you are going to share the dream with. The connection could just be like a picture of the person, you are meant to project your thoughts into their dream.

      If you were doing telepathy you wouldn't just say "ok lets imagine some stuff and see if we know what each other is thinking". You would set out a plan of how to communicate your minds so that you can have one person seeing what the other is thinking.
      It is said, or better it is speculated. You can't be sure of that. If you look for a specific person you don't know while dreaming it might be more difficult than if you would try to find one you know, because you don't know that person, so have maybe no idea how they look like, you might just go passed them without noticing.

      But here we try to meet at a specific location and if we believe that we all go to the same Eiffel Tower, then we most likely will. And as long as we are lucid we will also notice any "eye-catching" phenomenons that might be caused by several lucid dreamers.

      I agree that it might be more difficult than with people you know, but I see it just as the real world -> you can also meet people you don't know
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      thats a BIG might
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      sometimes dreams are so good that it hurts to wake up... .

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      Quote Originally Posted by ShadowmanX View Post
      It is said, or better it is speculated. You can't be sure of that. If you look for a specific person you don't know while dreaming it might be more difficult than if you would try to find one you know, because you don't know that person, so have maybe no idea how they look like, you might just go passed them without noticing.
      I suggested using a picture so that you may be able to create a connection with the person. You would notice the person from the picture in the dream, or you could find them.

      This project could be set up a lot better than it is at the moment and I am going to suggest some things so that maybe the people doing this can use them, I don't really care if you don't.

      People could be set up in groups of 2, pairs would be from the same time zone so that they could sleep at the same time and try to find each other in the dream world. If friends came on the thread together, or family member it would be much better because they already have a connection and can get much better contact, communication and connection to each other.

      Meditation could be used while trying to get your mind to connect with your partners while in the awake world. A picture could be used so that you could look at them and try to see and visualise the person you are connecting to.

      When actually trying the task you could have a previously decided dream scene in which to meet, or you could simply get into the dream and try to find the other person using your mind.


      I'm getting bored with this now, so you can use what ever I wrote if you want.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ShadowmanX View Post
      If you look for a specific person you don't know while dreaming it might be more difficult than if you would try to find one you know, because you don't know that person, so have maybe no idea how they look like
      Every1 has his/her idea of how a person looks and so he will look like for your mind.

      Same with when you make a skin for a game, you put it on ingame online you see yourself with that skin but others see you difrent cos they dont have the same skin as you
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      Quote Originally Posted by 12g951ad View Post
      thats a BIG might
      Hey I only wrote 4 "mights" ^^

      Quote Originally Posted by DarkComrade View Post
      Every1 has his/her idea of how a person looks and so he will look like for your mind.

      Same with when you make a skin for a game, you put it on ingame online you see yourself with that skin but others see you difrent cos they dont have the same skin as you
      Interesting idea. How did you come to this, have you ever experienced something like that yourself, e.g. meeting someone first time in a dream and in RL afterwards?
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      Quote Originally Posted by ShadowmanX View Post



      Interesting idea. How did you come to this, have you ever experienced something like that yourself, e.g. meeting someone first time in a dream and in RL afterwards?
      Nope, som1 i know actualy said me this. Tho the game part is made up by me. its just all about perceiving

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      Quote Originally Posted by ShadowmanX View Post
      Hey I only wrote 4 "mights" ^^



      Interesting idea. How did you come to this, have you ever experienced something like that yourself, e.g. meeting someone first time in a dream and in RL afterwards?
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      So thats how the real place looks... mine was so wrong <.<

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      Quote Originally Posted by Walms View Post
      So thats how the real place looks... mine was so wrong <.<
      are you talking about the eiffel tower?

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      i think he was lol

      sooo no one saw what i'm doing there yet i guess...
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      Oh no the tower was ok, as so was the other 2 things close to it, just the place was wrong... like really wrong <.<

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      i had a non-lucid about the eiffel tower last night i was flying over/through it.
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      Tips for successful shared dreaming

      I haven't joined in this project because my lucidity is sporadic, and I already have a long list of lucid tasks I'm involved in. I don't think I could squeeze in the eifel tower, I already have a bunch of people I'm trying to find.

      I've been working at shared dreaming for awhile now, and have made a handful of attempts. I've had nothing concrete yet, but a few very close teases that don't entirely rule out the possibility.

      What I think is the biggest problem with trying to prove this is that one of the parties involved inevitably forgets the shared dream. Even those with the best recall forget the majority of the dreams they have throughout the night.

      In an effort to prevent this, whenever you meet your dream target and you both agree you are lucid, you should both wake yourselves up in order to guarantee you won't forget the dream. Not much fun, but it's the only way to ensure you will both remember. And don't take too long waking yourselves up either, as there is no guarantee how long you'll stay lucid.

      So when you meet a potential fellow dreamer,
      1. Tell them they are lucid
      2. Make sure you know who they are and vice versa
      3. Tell them to wake up and record the dream
      4. Wake yourself up and record the dream


      Weeding out the DCs
      This technique may sound a little corny, but I swear it works. It's from Castaneda's books.

      The technique is pointing you little finger at a target and intending to see it's energy. Declaring your intent out loud can help.

      The theory, without getting into too much Castaneda mumbo jumbo, is that everything real had an energy to it that can be seen. Since dreams are just images created by your mind, they have no energy to them. If you encounter another dreamer, they should have real energy that can be seen.

      What happens is that when you try to see the energy of a normal dream object or DC, they dissolve into mist. Larger objects will sometime morph into something a little smaller. I assume if you keep trying to see it's energy, it will keep getting smaller and smaller until it too vanishes into mist, but I've yet to verify that. Sometimes nothing happens, just keep trying, or declare your intent to see it's energy louder and with more authority. In theory, another dreamer would not morph or disappear into mist, but would instead have some sort of energy that could be seen.
      *this is from experience, not from the books

      I say in theory, because all the times I've attempted it, I've never seen any energy, just the same dissolution every single time. Seeing energy is something I want, so you'd think my dreams could make something up, but it's always the same. I've gotten people who've never read the books to try it, and they get the same results. Nobody's seen energy yet.

      So far it's just a sure fire way to get rid anything or anyone, no matter what it is or how powerful it is in the dream. But in theory, it should help identify if you're having a shared dream without both parties having to wake themselves up. I've never tried this in a shared dreaming attempt, it's hard enough to remember one goal at a time, but I think it's worth the effort if you can pull it off.

      And please don't anyone go rambling about IB's, or even ask what they are. Let's just keep it to the topic of shared dreaming. Google can satisfy the curious. I only bring this up this technique because it seems to work reliably and could prove useful in shared dreaming attempts if it's results continue to be identical for everyone who tries it.
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      I think it's infeasbile if not impossible. Even people who have LDs on a relatively frequent schedule don't spend very much total time in them. And the odds that someone else will have an LD at exactly the moment I have one are very small.

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      Quote Originally Posted by arne saknussemm View Post
      I think it's infeasbile if not impossible. Even people who have LDs on a relatively frequent schedule don't spend very much total time in them. And the odds that someone else will have an LD at exactly the moment I have one are very small.
      Here OBEs, dream precognition, sharing dreams, and other freaky paranormal things can be discussed. Note that this particular forum is ONLY for members who BELIEVE in the aforementioned topics

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      Quote Originally Posted by Licity View Post
      Here OBEs, dream precognition, sharing dreams, and other freaky paranormal things can be discussed. Note that this particular forum is ONLY for members who BELIEVE in the aforementioned topics
      Actually it is said that anyone can discuss the topic with their own opinion. It is not as simple as "don't come here if you don't believe" or something, the point in saying that it is for those who believe is so people don't just come along to accuse people of being crazy and just flaming the posters.

      Quote Originally Posted by Beyond Dreaming View Post
      "paranormal things can be discussed"
      Arne has the point of view that people don't dream for very long so it would not be likely that you will find yourself in a lucid dream at the same time as each other. Maybe you should discuss the topic with him if you have a different opinion.
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      Quote Originally Posted by benTENDO View Post
      Arne has the point of view that people don't dream for very long so it would not be likely that you will find yourself in a lucid dream at the same time as each other. Maybe you should discuss the topic with him if you have a different opinion.
      You don't need to both be lucid. As long as one person is and is able to find the other, they should be able to tell them they are dreaming.
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      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      You don't need to both be lucid. As long as one person is and is able to find the other, they should be able to tell them they are dreaming.
      That doesn't matter. The task states that they are all going to the Eiffel tower and they are just going to see if they see each other there.

      But if you did approach a person who wasn't dreaming at the time in your LD, wouldn't you just be meeting a DC? I don't see the point in telling a DC that they are dreaming.
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      There is no dream.
      Then you'll see, that it is not the dream that bends, it is only yourself.

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      Quote Originally Posted by arne saknussemm View Post
      I think it's infeasbile if not impossible. Even people who have LDs on a relatively frequent schedule don't spend very much total time in them. And the odds that someone else will have an LD at exactly the moment I have one are very small.
      yes thats exactly the reason we want as many people as possible, to increase chances.

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