Thread: Creating reality through lucid dreaming

Originally Posted by Choi

In Dan Brown's book "The Lost Symbol" there was a Noetic scientist who researched how the human mind interacted with matter, of course this is just a book, but the THOUGHT is pretty cool.

"Human thought can literally transform the physical world. As Katherine's experiments grew bolder, her results became more astounding. Her work in this lab had proven beyond the shadow of a doubt that "mind over matter" was not just some New Age self-help mantra. The mind had the ability to alter the state of matter itself, and more important, the mind had the power to encourage the physical world to move in a specific direction. We are the masters of our own universe.
At the subatomic level, Katherine had shown that particles themselves came in and out of existence based solely on her intention to observe them. In a sense, her desire to see a particle. . . manifested that particle. Living consciousness somehow is the influence that turns the possibility of something into something real."

And that sounds like the esteemed Mr. Brown is simply misinterpreting a curious trait of quantum mechanics -- that the nature of a subatomic particle changes when it is observed. Pretty much any physicist, not just Katherine, will "create" a particle every time he chooses to, since the act of observing the particles defines (aka creates) them. Also, does noticing a subatomic particle really make you a master of your universe? Does it really equate to manipulating reality itself? I don't think so.

You might not want to put too much faith in the extremely creative writings of Mr Brown.

Originally Posted by Sageous

And that sounds like the esteemed Mr. Brown is simply misinterpreting a curious trait of quantum mechanics -- that the nature of a subatomic particle changes when it is observed. Pretty much any physicist, not just Katherine, will "create" a particle every time he chooses to, since the act of observing the particles defines (aka creates) them. Also, does noticing a subatomic particle really make you a master of your universe? Does it really equate to manipulating reality itself? I don't think so.

You might not want to put too much faith in the extremely creative writings of Mr Brown.

Actually we can influence matter outside of the "observing a particle makes it behave differently" effect. Tom Shadyac made a documentary called I Am, and it is about happiness and what draws people to be kind to one another. He did an experiment in the movie where his emotions could manipulate the electric potential energy of yogurt.

He later interviews someone that was talking about how our random number generators have started to show patterns during periods of mass distress (9/11, tsunamis, ect.)

They also talk about some quantum mechanics and how subatomic particles can influence each other across (essentially) infinite distances instantaneously.

They use all this to suggest that we are all connected at some level and can influence matter (and people) around us.

Here he is talking about the yogurt experiment:



I am not saying that believing in something will dramatically influence future events at any large scale. I just thought it was interesting piece of info and somewhat relevant to the conversation. And before you dismiss everything I said, watch the movie and take it up with them.

Originally Posted by cytotoxicT

Actually we can influence matter outside of the "observing a particle makes it behave differently" effect. Tom Shadyac made a documentary called I Am, and it is about happiness and what draws people to be kind to one another. He did an experiment in the movie where his emotions could manipulate the electric potential energy of yogurt.

They also talk about some quantum mechanics and how subatomic particles can influence each other across (essentially) infinite distances instantaneously.

They use all this to suggest that we are all connected at some level and can influence matter (and people) around us.

I am not saying that believing in something will dramatically influence future events at any large scale. I just thought it was interesting piece of info and somewhat relevant to the conversation. And before you dismiss everything I said, watch the movie and take it up with them.

CytotoxicT:

How could I possibly dismiss claims in a documentary by a man who did an experiment in the movie where his emotions could manipulate the electric potential energy of yogurt? Talk about the "I'm not making this up" department!

Thanks for sharing -- it is certainly relevant to the conversation, and in all seriousness might even illustrate my reference to thought energy somewhere above. Still, I don't think Mr. Shadyac discusses using his dreams to get stuff...