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      You're right, this thread is about books that "you" would recommend, not the discussion between us. Some natural discussion never hurts, but we'll try keep it to a minimum. I think it's sound advice that if any one has any any objections to our posts a new thread can be made in the extended discussion sub-forum
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      I think discussion about books, why someone recommends it or doesnt, is great way to describe the book. It's much better, than someone just saying "I like/don't like it.

      As long as it doesn't take over the thread. For that reason, I would suggest not to move any posts out of here. But if anybody wishes to discuss any aspect of Wagonner's book in more detail, perhaps a separate thread would be best. But brief discussions about other books should be held here.

      I don't see anything wrong with Wagonner's book. There are books on theory, step by step guides, more scientific or less scientific approach, and other books for beginners. But if you want to expand on it, Gateway to inner self is something to check out. So many people want to talk to guides, to their higher self and such. This book tells you how to. It' up to you to make up your mind if you believe it or not and to test it out yourself and make your own conclusion. I like about it, that he tells you exactly how he did his self-exploration. Even if not everything is objective truth in it, it's a way to start. Not that many things in LDing are objective. I love vibrations, someone discribes them as the worst experience of his life. It's up to us to be curious and try it out ourselves.

      Some books are good to read, if only to help us realize and elimite what we don't think is the truth.

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      I agree discussion is a good way to find out more about books rather than just a i like/dont like it.
      I hope I didn't irritate anyone with my suggestion, It just seemed the discussion was moving away from book reviews and more into the old science versus "beyond dreaming"debate, which is fascinating just not so handy when you're looking for a new book to read.
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      I've just bought 'Are You Dreaming?' by Daniel Love. I'll review it when I read it!
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      A book that has not been talked much about is "The Power of Creative Dreaming: Unlock the Strength of Your Subconscious" by Pamela J. Ball. Has anyone here read this, and might comment on it?
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      New book om dreaming (tibetan perspective)

      Apparently there is a new book on dreaming, from the tibetan perspective, coming to market in the not-too-distant-future:

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      I have no specific knowledge of the book but thought I would just bring it to peoples attention.

      Sorry about the typo in the threads title ... (a very Danish typo, I'm afraid)
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      Hey, thanks for sharing! Btw, I initially thought that "om dreaming" was the title of the book. It even made sense to me.
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      Since the link had to be removed, could you post the title and author, so that we can search for it?

      Thanks!
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      Found it! (Not easy, when you don't remember the title, nor the name of the author):

      "Dreams of Awakening: Lucid Dreaming and Mindfulness of Dream and Sleep" by Charlie Morley.

      Incidentally, the posting rules specifically say, that the advertising ban does not include lucid dreaming ressources. And I very much suspect that this book will be such a ressource ...
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      Quote Originally Posted by Voldmer View Post
      Found it! (Not easy, when you don't remember the title, nor the name of the author):

      "Dreams of Awakening: Lucid Dreaming and Mindfulness of Dream and Sleep" by Charlie Morley.

      Incidentally, the posting rules specifically say, that the advertising ban does not include lucid dreaming ressources. And I very much suspect that this book will be such a ressource ...
      Yeah I know Voldmer, I've tried posting links to books in the past but for some reason the mods don't like it. Still, I guess resources are things like Wikipedia and free services, else you'd get people spamming the forums trying to sell all sorts. Is a nuisance but I can see why they do it. Personally I'm not very keen on the look of that book, I've seen Charlie Morleys videos and read about his history and it looks a bit like he's trying to become a bit of a "lifestyle guru". Apparently he's only been lucid dreaming for a handful of years and it doesn't sound like he's mastered it yet. Also his links to Tibetan Buddhism are as a layman living in a centre. Before hand he was working as a rapper. He's got the charisma for talks on stage, I just don't think he's got much experience compared to half the people in these forums. So it's not likely to have the grounding of someone who's dedicated their life to either subject like LaBerge or Tenzin Wangyal Rinpoche. I think "The Tibetan yogas of dream and sleep" by Rinpoche is going to remain the best book for the Tibetan perspective. Still, I'll buy a copy of this when it comes out and write my own review when it comes out.
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      I had a thought It'd be nice if we could do video book reviews and recommendations. I've never actually been brave enough to do that kind of thing myself so I don't even have a youtube account!! :O
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      To be honest one of the reasons I just bought this book is because it comes from a regular guy who hasn't dedicated his whole life to lucid dreaming, so his perspective is fresh (if an ex-rapper with no life-long experience about it can do it, heck now I'm determined to do it as well). I watched his very recent interview on Youtube and I didn't find him guru-like at all, he's a very down to earth person and funny too. And I see how he loves what he's doing.

      So far I'm loving the book. Granted, the techniques (at least up till where I am right now with the book, which is still early on in the book) are just the same as we find them here on the forum, however I like his style, he's very accessible and for anyone who hasn't read a lucid dreaming book before, this book will sure to hook them up with the practice. Personally I found $14 well spent for a different perspective (Buddhist) along with the usual Westerner technique style.
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      Just started reading book by Mark Thurston and Christopher Fazel: The Edgar Cayce Handbook for Creating your Future. I picked it up over a year ago in used books store, because it was like $1.

      Edgar Cayce was a 20th century US clairvoyant.

      I didn't expect to read about lucid dreaming in this book. But I'm on page 9, and book already mentioned shared dreaming - which happened, when 2 people got sensitive to each others thoughtforms through 4th dimention, which he and C. Jung called "the dimention of ideas, the world of thought".

      Mentions, that thoughtforms are as real as "pin stuck in your hand".

      That we can shape our future with our thoughts. It may take a while, but what we think, is what we become. His spiritual formula states: "Spirit is the life, mind is the builder, and the physical is the result."

      Even though this book I suspect will be quite spiritual, the things he mentions, that we, lucid dreamers, also believe, made me pause.

      Also mentioned is, that mind is the bridge between the realm of spirit and the world of physical reality.

      More to come...

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      ^^ Huh.

      You might want to check out the thread I started recently, called On the Nature of Shared Dreaming,if you haven't already, as there are some curious parallels in it to what you just said. Curious, and a little disturbing, since I never had much confidence in Cayce's work.
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      Mark Thurston and Christopher Fazel: The Edgar Cayce Handbook for Creating your Future continued.

      It's a slow read, because after every other sentence, I go "wow". I have to put the book down for a minute and fully absorb and understand the implication of what I just read. I wonder if I understood this book this well, if I wasn't familiar with the concept, that I learned from Lucid Dreaming.

      Finished Part One, Pinciple #1: Mind is the Builder: What you think, you become.

      This is not a lucid dreaming book, but the words and ideas used here are the same as we use. Such as thoughtform, incubation of ideas (we use incubation of dreams). He mentions, that everything we ever think of, every idea, is forever stored in our Mental body. And they are the source of our dreams, that get randomly presented to us at night.

      We can change our future by incubating it. Byt thinking positively about it. One way is to observe our dreams, because those could be reflections of our thoughts. Second method is to step back and observe our inner chatter. The thoughts, the mental habits and prevailing attitudes that come to us by themselves.

      How long does it take for a thought to be built into the physical?

      He recommends setting an intent with mantras to remember our dreams, having a DJ handy, and staying in bed calmly upon waking up.

      @Sageous, thank you for the link. I'll check it out.

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      I recently read "Are You Dreaming?: Exploring Lucid Dreams: A Comprehensive Guide" by Daniel Love.

      It is an excellent book on lucid dreaming. I found this site because it is mentioned in this book.
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      I agree that one helped me out a lot!
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      Okay, this is for some inspiration it's a fictional book and can't help but much but it's a fun read "The Wake Trilogy" by Lisa Mcmann remember its only loosely based on LD but its good to have some fictional fun sometimes.
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      Night School: Wake up to the power of sleep [Unabridged] [Hardcover] By Richard Wiseman

      I am not sure if this topic is also for books that seem interesting but haven't been reviewed yet... This title caught my eye and the
      YouTube videos on the In59seconds channel also hints that it covers some material on lucid dreaming... Does anyone know a bit more about it?
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      @Shabby

      Night School, isn't that great TBH. Not saying that it's *bad*, just pretty average. Kinda pop-science so really simplified stuff for easy reading. Okay for a casual read on a train but you'll probably not learn anything new. If you want a good all around book on dreams then go for "Counting Sheep" which is much better. If you want a good book on lucid dreaming specifically go for one written especially about LDs like ETWOLD or Are You Dreaming?
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      Hello!

      First of all, sorry for my English, I hope it's not too bad and that what I write here is well understood!

      I do not know if this topic has been discussed here, I have not been able to locate anything about this book here, if I have wrong I apologize in advance.

      Some time ago I read on Reddit (can not remember where, but it can perform a search to locate it) about a free e-book (with the possibility to make a donation) about OBE titled "The Phase" written by Michael Raduga, here it's his web page. Although the book does not treat directly about LD, I think, it has any links and the exercises suggested in the book are interesting.

      Has anyone read or know anything about this book or this topic?
      I have done some preliminary tests on the proposed exercises and I think the results are interesting.

      Greetings.
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      I think Raduga made up this artificial name "The Phase", as not to offend those that don't believe in OBEs. He calls lucid dreams, astral projection and OBEs all by the same name. I have not read his whole article, but from what I have gathered, it's some legit info.

      It certainly is worth reading and making up your own opinion based on what you have read some other places and your own experience.

      And your english is great, no worries.

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      Quote Originally Posted by SenrPF View Post
      Hello!

      First of all, sorry for my English, I hope it's not too bad and that what I write here is well understood!

      I do not know if this topic has been discussed here, I have not been able to locate anything about this book here, if I have wrong I apologize in advance.

      Some time ago I read on Reddit (can not remember where, but it can perform a search to locate it) about a free e-book (with the possibility to make a donation) about OBE titled "The Phase" written by Michael Raduga, here it's his web page. Although the book does not treat directly about LD, I think, it has any links and the exercises suggested in the book are interesting.

      Has anyone read or know anything about this book or this topic?
      I have done some preliminary tests on the proposed exercises and I think the results are interesting.

      Greetings.
      I remember trying to read it, but not following it. It seemed very unrealistic to me, he mentions that he can get like 80% of people to lucid dream within a day or so.

      The twenty something pages I read where either your standard lucid dreaming information, or seemingly unrealistic numbers and made up explanations.

      I could be wrong, this is just from what I can recollect.
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      True he did have some unrealistic success rate claims.

      But his tutorial is more or less standard stuff. Nothing groundbreaking or special. Just some new words.

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      Although he seems rather fundamentalist about classifying lucid dreams and Out-of-body-experiences as one and the same, his book seemed earnest and useful to me (and it floats freely around the internet). Not at all bad as a ressource. But I personally suspect that his understanding of "the phase" is closer to most peoples understanding of OBEs, rather than LDs.
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      So ... is this the real universe, or is it just a preliminary study?

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