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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      Though it still applies.
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      It's just that if you are going to be a (fellow) conspiratorial whacko, you better get the basics straight.

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      Is it me or does the Bank Of Montreal logo look a lot like the top o an owl face with pyramid eyes???
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      I'm guessing those intergalactic storm cloud monster bugs come out of sacred energy vortex angel gate medicine wheels.

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      Quote Originally Posted by pj View Post
      It's just that if you are going to be a (fellow) conspiratorial whacko, you better get the basics straight.

      Haha. Agreed.
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      The mind interprets the word as it was taught to. But the real meaning behind amen is what ram said. We all say, Amen not knowing what it really stands for.

      Ram : the Bank of Montreal has a number 13 in it. The 13 blood lines

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      Quote Originally Posted by ranma187 View Post
      You know it's funny. most religion is just Sun worship!

      you know the word "Amen" that people say after prayer? the Etymology of that word comes from the Egyptian god: Amun Ra! people have no idea that when christians say "Amen", they think they are praising jesus when really... they are just giving praise to the egyptian god Amun Ra..... LOL

      This tapestry can be located in the vatican. Most people never question where symbols come from or what they mean. See if you find anything suspicious...

      Hm, why is a vatican tapestry flaunting an egyptian pyramid with the all-seeing eye of horus (an egyptian sun god) on it? The "sun" of God perhaps?
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      The jews settled down in Egypt for some 400 years. I don't think it's that that odd or groundbreaking that amen came from amun.

      Fascinating Jeff o-o

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      Horus Was the egyptian Sun god. It was say that during the day Horus (the sun) took 12 steps across the sky. our day is divided into two sets of 12 hours. the word Hours is also very similar to "Horus". There are 12 steps in the program of AA The symbol for AA is also a circle with a triangle in the middle of it.

      The thing is over the time AA has been around (since the 1930's) it has collected a stupendous amount of money from collection plates (much like church). all the money funds the headquarters in new york. I wonder if a lot of that money really goes to some of the power Elite. Is AA a front for the illuminati? xD
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      I'm guessing those intergalactic storm cloud monster bugs come out of sacred energy vortex angel gate medicine wheels.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ranma187 View Post



      Is it me or does the Bank Of Montreal logo look a lot like the top o an owl face with pyramid eyes???
      It's you, there's such a thing as looking too far... Although this Kleenex box next to me reminds me of a pagan altar for ritual sacrifices, it's even rectangular!

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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      Superficially, it might be kind of hard to imagine, but really think about it. It only takes a single person, whether a rogue member or an eavesdropper, to tell the world about anything going on within an organization, especially when that organization has been around, supposedly, for ages.



      Unwritten code has no chance of surviving, over the years.

      What would organized religion be, without the scrolls, Bibles and Qur'ans to sustain them?
      Actually oneironaut My dad read about some culture which i think may have been Aboriginals of some land. Their entire history was passed down verbally for hundreds of years without one word being changed.
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      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      I'm guessing those intergalactic storm cloud monster bugs come out of sacred energy vortex angel gate medicine wheels.

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      Quote Originally Posted by ranma187 View Post
      Actually oneironaut My dad read about some culture which i think may have been Aboriginals of some land. Their entire history was passed down verbally for hundreds of years without one word being changed.
      That's very impressive (if true). However, one must ask himself; If there was no static record of the original material, how do we know that it was passed-down without alteration? I'm not saying it's not possible, but if it's explained in the text your father read, I'd like to read it, too.
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      Columbia studios recently added chemtrails to their company logo. Some subliminal message to make people think these things are natural? Many movie studios are doing this.

      the old


      The new

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      You mean H2O-trails? Anyways, all I see are cirrostratus clouds...

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      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      Columbia studios recently added chemtrails to their company logo. Some subliminal message to make people think these things are natural? Many movie studios are doing this.

      the old


      The new
      *They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and will never know their true effect.

      *The poisons will be hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear.

      *They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn.
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      Spart:

      From what I understand, regular contrails dissipate after a few minutes. The chemtrails that are alleged can linger in the air for hours at a time.
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      According to experienced pilots, genuine vapor trails only form under certain condition, low altitudes, and last a minute to a minute and a half tops.

      The one I see in my city last all day. Several independent sources have analysed these emissions and found a mix of chemical and biological components. The perfect mix to make identifying the source of illness difficult.

      They contain fibers smaller than asbestos, like those in Morgellons disease. Red blood cells, fungus, parasitic eggs. Also various metal particle, such as Barium. Barium it's self has peculiar properties, in particular, it appears to demonstrate Non-Locality in it's crystal form.

      See this article "Alice in Barium Titanate land": http://www.halexandria.org/dward147.htm
      (They've since solved the refaction index problem mentioned at the beginning of that article)

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      oneironaut, I was wrong. It was the celts. The info can be found in the book: A brief History of The Celts, by Petre Berresford Ellis.
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      Quote Originally Posted by The Cusp View Post
      I'm guessing those intergalactic storm cloud monster bugs come out of sacred energy vortex angel gate medicine wheels.

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      Another thing that really creeps me out are the commercials I hear on the radio about a shot for young girls that supposedly prevents cervical cancer.

      THen today I heard another government sponsored radio commercial advising that people keep enough canned food and bottled water in the house to last 72 hours. WTF is up with that?

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      I swear I saw that on youtube posted by Mystic7.

      You know, the one with the male and female split personality syndrome?

      Everything works out in the end, sometimes even badly.


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      Quote Originally Posted by Omnius Deus View Post
      I swear I saw that on youtube posted by Mystic7.

      You know, the one with the male and female split personality syndrome?
      o.O ..what?
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      Quote Originally Posted by Oneironaut View Post
      Spart:

      From what I understand, regular contrails dissipate after a few minutes. The chemtrails that are alleged can linger in the air for hours at a time.
      Here's a post I made a while back (which no one responded to I might add).


      Quote Originally Posted by Spartiate View Post
      Are you serious? OK, let me clear things up... A jet engine functions by taking in air, compressing it, combining it with kerosene and then igniting the mixture. The gas, now superheated and under immense pressure is shot out the back through the nozzle and, in accordance with Newton's 3rd law of motion, this propels the plane forward. Now in the back of the engine, the surrounding air becomes extremely hot, when it cools (if the temperature, air pressure and humidity are right, this usually occurs at high altitudes), the heated water molecules found in the air will condense and then crystallize into minute ice particles. So these contrails are basically nothing more then floating ice (artificial cirrus clouds to be precise) which last as long as any other cloud would. The reason they start to form behind the engine is because that's how long it takes for the air to cool, as can be seen in this picture:

      http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...ngined.arp.jpg

      There also exists a form of contrail that is found on the wingtips. It is created by the pressure differential that is found in the wingtip vortex. However, this kind of contrail is extremely hard to see at a distance, this is what it looks like:

      http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...p_vortices.jpg

      It is also possible for propeller planes to produce contrails, since they also eject hot exhaust from their engines, as can be seen here:

      http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question...-contrails.jpg

      It is also worth considering that every single spot that can be spared in a plane is used for storing fuel, useless or inefficient use of space and weight is an aeronautical engineer's worse nightmare. Lastly, there has been speculation about the effect that contrails have on the weather. After the 9/11 attacks (after which all planes in North America were temporarily grounded), meteorologists noticed a slight increase in temparture in regions of heavy air traffic due to the increase in solar radiation received.

      So I hope that quashed any conspiracy theories, I'm really much more concerned about the stuff spewing out of coal power plants than this ...

      To sum it up, what spews out the back of a jet engine is water vapour and greenhouse gases. The gases dissipate in the atmosphere and the vapour turns into very small ice crystals (identical to those found in cirrus clouds). The contrail is composed only of these ice crystals, which last as long as any other cirrus cloud would (the idea that they last a few minutes or that they generaly form at low altitude is false). There is no such thing as "chemtrails" unless you consider water to be a chemical or you are referring to a Vietnam War era C-130 dropping agent O on a forest. Planes burn kerosene, not radioactive, biological something something...

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      watch this, chemtrail ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDnWNMI4ZO0







      its obvious, we are sprayed like bunch of fleeks.. oo boy do i smell something!
      and lol no, its not a damn contrail! ahahah
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      Quote Originally Posted by born_2_kill View Post
      watch this, chemtrail ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDnWNMI4ZO0

      its obvious, we are sprayed like bunch of fleeks.. oo boy do i smell something!
      and lol no, its not a damn contrail! ahahah
      I didn't see anything in that, ugh... "youtube video" to prove your point. Although I did see what whoever made that video was trying to point out as abnormal, so...

      Some of the images are obviously fake.

      The form of the contrail varies greatly depending on weather conditions, it can be thin, thick, hazy, defined, etc.

      I already explained why contrails don't form right behind the engine (cooling period).

      That plane with a boom on it's tail is a military air to air refuelling tanker, probably a KC-135 or a KC-10.

      Certain areas (usually major cities) get extremely high densities of air traffic (and thus heavy contrail densities) because they are situated near VORs, which are the sky's equivalent of an intersection.

      Circular contrails indicate an airplane in a holding pattern.

      Those multicoloured clouds are called "fire rainbows", Moonbeam has one in her sig.

      Abrupt ends and beginnings of contrails are most likely caused by thermals or some other microclimatic event.

      Those modules at the back of some airplane wings are part of the flap system.

      That pretty much covers it... Anything else?

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      if ur a American citizen, than have a look at this :
      BILL HR2977, 107th CONGRESS

      It was introduced in Whitehouse :

      (B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--

      (i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

      (ii) chemtrails;

      (iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;

      (iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;

      (v) laser weapons systems;

      (vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and

      (vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.

      (C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.

      Source : http://www.nwbotanicals.org/mediawat...htm#chemtrails


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      wow, some of you guys are disturbingly paranoid, but not because you believe that an organisation like the illuminatti exists. Generally speaking, the idea of a secret-ish organisation having an extremely large amount of power is very plausible. But the way in which you find evidence of their existence in anything and nothing is fucking rediculous.

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      Quote Originally Posted by born_2_kill View Post
      if ur a American citizen, than have a look at this :
      BILL HR2977, 107th CONGRESS

      It was introduced in Whitehouse :

      (B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--

      (i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

      (ii) chemtrails;

      (iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;

      (iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;

      (v) laser weapons systems;

      (vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and

      (vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.

      (C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.

      Source : http://www.nwbotanicals.org/mediawat...htm#chemtrails

      Funny, you left out the part that says that that bill was to ban such weapons.



      A BILL

      To preserve the cooperative, peaceful uses of space for the benefit of all humankind by permanently prohibiting the basing of weapons in space by the United States, and to require the President to take action to adopt and implement a world treaty banning space-based weapons.

      SEC. 3. PERMANENT BAN ON BASING OF WEAPONS IN SPACE.

      [...]

      SEC. 4. WORLD AGREEMENT BANNING SPACE-BASED WEAPONS.

      [...]

      SEC. 7. DEFINITIONS.

      In this Act:

      (2)(A) The terms `weapon' and `weapons system' mean a device capable of any of the following:

      (ii) Inflicting death or injury on, or damaging or destroying, a person (or the biological life, bodily health, mental health, or physical and economic well-being of a person)--

      (I) through the use of any of the means described in clause (i) or subparagraph (B);

      (II) through the use of land-based, sea-based, or space-based systems using radiation, electromagnetic, psychotronic, sonic, laser, or other energies directed at individual persons or targeted populations for the purpose of information war, mood management, or mind control of such persons or populations; or

      (III) by expelling chemical or biological agents in the vicinity of a person.

      (B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--

      (i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;

      (ii) chemtrails;

      (iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;

      (iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;

      (v) laser weapons systems;

      (vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and

      (vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.

      (C) The term `exotic weapons systems' includes weapons designed to damage space or natural ecosystems (such as the ionosphere and upper atmosphere) or climate, weather, and tectonic systems with the purpose of inducing damage or destruction upon a target population or region on earth or in space.

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