Thread: Mancon's Simple Visualization WILD Technique

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

Here's a pretty decent guide on visualisation for WILD.

Added that link to my post

Ah, cool. I'm trying this again tonight as I've been working on my visualisation chops

Awesome guide, definetely makes WILDing more accesible and intresting

i am going to use this tonight, to see if i can finally have my first WILD. i have tried WILD, but i focused on things like things that had happened that day, and thinking to myself, "when am i going to get numb. when will i see HI!!??!!" im going to follow your guide and only think of the dream scene. also the air conditioner will help because the noise it makes helps me to fall asleep. thanks for the guide, wish me luck!

Originally Posted by xThrillz04

i am going to use this tonight, to see if i can finally have my first WILD. i have tried WILD, but i focused on things like things that had happened that day, and thinking to myself, "when am i going to get numb. when will i see HI!!??!!" im going to follow your guide and only think of the dream scene. also the air conditioner will help because the noise it makes helps me to fall asleep. thanks for the guide, wish me luck!

Good luck hope all goes well. If it doesn't, just keep trying!

Will... Master... this...

Definatly trying this

Good luck superdub and benzilla.

Wanna say thanks again for the great guide mancon, I've been linking this to so many people, this should be an official guide.

For me, it is all about visualization. Great read!

Wow cool and quick guide man! And hey everyone! Been out a while i know! I've been busy preparing for senior year and applying for college! But I'm getting back into it again!

Question..
When visualizing it, do you do it in your head? or try and see it through the back of your eye lids. Im lost

Originally Posted by benzilla04

Question..
When visualizing it, do you do it in your head? or try and see it through the back of your eye lids. Im lost

i would get guess in your head. Trying to see the back of your eye lids might cause them to twitch

The number one problem I've always had is visualization. Thanks to the link you provided, I feel as if I can do visualization exercises and successfully pull off a WILD with WBTB. Thanks so much!

Originally Posted by jerlikescats

The number one problem I've always had is visualization. Thanks to the link you provided, I feel as if I can do visualization exercises and successfully pull off a WILD with WBTB. Thanks so much!

I was gonna post a link to here in the not entering sp thread but I guess you already found

this technique sounds very interesting and promising, im gonna give it a try for the next few nights too! its been about a month or more since my last LD but i will post if i get any results

Great guide Mancon.
I will try and combine this method of yours with a relaxation/stretching exercise to clear my mind during a WBTB, etc.

Can you use anchors for this? I just tried a few minutes ago but I had to stop because my face was in a pillow and I couldnt breath.

Originally Posted by Jmanjordan

Can you use anchors for this? I just tried a few minutes ago but I had to stop because my face was in a pillow and I couldnt breath.

I don't have much experience with anchors but I believe the visualization is the anchor.

Trying this tonight!

OMG, excellent tutorial...Thanks for posting this as ,at the moment, I'm trying out every technique that I think is worth it. I will do this tonight, and post how it goes!

Originally Posted by Dreamt

OMG, excellent tutorial...Thanks for posting this as ,at the moment, I'm trying out every technique that I think is worth it. I will do this tonight, and post how it goes!

Thanks Dreamt! Good luck! In my opinion, its better to choose one technique (or a combination of some) and stick with it for a while than doing a whole bunch of different techniques. People have been more successful achieving Lucids that way. So I recommend choosing a technique and sticking with it for a month+. If it doesn't work after a while, you can try a different one.

Good luck again

First of all, thanks for the great guide Mancon!

A couple of weeks ago, I figured out to WILD/DEILD, but then I had no LDs for 3 weeks because I had no free time and less sleep than usual. Now when I try WILD/DEILD I success about 30% of the time (I used to success like 80% of the time...). I took advantage of the time change to wake up an hour earlier, I am also used to wake up motionless and eyes closed, it's a great recipe for WILD/DEILD! As I have excellent visualization skills and my other way of doing WILD is broken, I am going to go with this method.

I tried it this morning but I wasn't able to fall asleep... I visualized seeing the scene, an awesome modern chalet in the alps, featuring floor to ceiling, frameless windows and dark wood floors. The view was amazing. I also visualized touching the surface of the wooden floor and feeling the texture. I even visualized the smell of the dark wood. I think I was close, but for some reason I wasn't able to fall asleep, I was not even thinking about my physical body or falling asleep. I did this for at least half an hour and I know sometimes you have to wait a bit for REM, but the longest time it ever took me was like 15 mins, and in theory REM periods are longer in the morning. Do you have any advice for me?

I've often wondered and this may seem odd. But how do people overlap there visualization with the hypnagogia behind the eyes. I can do one of two things it seems, I can almost paint the visualization of something over the hypnagogia (as if the hypnagogic imagery already formed it) or create an daydreamed image that is seperate.

It's an extremely difficult concept to describe, I guess the best way to think about it is if I casually think up an image right now in my head. When I do this traditionally the image is instantaneously in my head, of course it's vague but I get the general idea of what I'm imagining e.g a green field or room. However I could also briefly close my eyes and beginning adding the details over the black space behind my eyes, like I'm painting the objects into a canvas that is made up of my hypnagogic imagery. Hopefully that clarifies what I'm referring to. I just need to know what is more effective and what technique people here use.