Thread: A recurring DC in my dreams which doesn't behave like any other DC's

Thank you all for your replies!
Sorry for replying so late, I've been quite busy the past few days (exams).
I don't really feel like I have a full understanding of the situation yet, but thanks to these posts and another encounter with "her", I feel like I have a better understanding of it now.

I've had bad dream recall for the past few days (most likely due to the exams), but as I already said, I encountered her once more, which differs quite a bit from the other encounters I've had with her before.

• She was there right after I became lucid, and she wasn't introduced to me like she usually is, she was basically right next to me and said "hi", and I immediately recognized her.
• She didn't play the role of another character like she always did, she was just "herself"
• I'm pretty sure we were on another planet. We were walking on water (she showed me how to)
• I asked her if she was a/my dream guide. She pondered for a bit and replied (I don't remember her exact words) that it's complicated, and thus hard to explain (I felt she knew I had bad dream recall, and this was a bad time to try to explain it.)
• She referred to the dream world as "her world" (In the sense of this is where she lives)
• The dream was very short unfortunately. While walking on the water she said she was sorry, but I would have to leave very soon. I asked why and she said "Your alarm clock is ringing."
  This made me sad, because I still had many questions for her. With a nice smile she jokingly said: "Don't worry, I won't run away." (She will always be in the dream world). This made me laugh and I woke up to my alarm clock, which had been ringing for over half a minute.

I was very happy to meet her again. Due to the bad dream recall I was afraid I wouldn't.
I also made a sketch of her after waking up, in the hopes of being able to remember her more clearly.
I plan on turning it into a painting once I'm done with my exams.

Originally Posted by Snowboy

I suspect this to be something called a spirit guide.

Unfortunately I read your post only after meeting her again, I think my questions would have been more precise, had I read it sooner.
Your description of a SG does fit remarkably well.
As mentioned earlier, she did say that she was an inhabitant of the dream world, and she is very knowledgeable about it.
She also has full access to all my memories, including all my thoughts and emotions.

Do you know where I can find more information about Spirit Guides?
I don't mind that the idea is a bit controversial.
I'm very open minded, and what you said is pretty much spot on, so I see no reason not to try to get my hands on more information, I really want to learn more on the subject.

Originally Posted by QuietWhun

Any ideas?

I see many similarities to my experiences.
Giving answers like "where you're supposed to be" is something she's done quite a few times, or telling me that things I find weird are perfectly normal "they're supposed to be there".
I also have the feeling that we cannot talk about her until she brings me to another place with no other DC's. Her telling you "not here" reminded me of that.


As for finding her... I don't know... She always seems to find me.
I never tried to actively search for her, except for my last dream, where she was already waiting for me.
If I'd try to search for her though, I would try to find her aura. It's very strong, so I can sense it from very far away.
I'm not sure if you've experienced this though, and to be honest, I don't really know how to explain it. As I said in my first post, it's like a 6th sense, you can feel the presence of other people and animals.

Asking around like Snowboy suggested sounds like a good idea as well.


Cheers,
Hyu

Originally Posted by Hyu

Do you know where I can find more information about Spirit Guides?

What I posted is what I know. I don't know how I can elaborate much farther, as that was just what I have read before. I haven't had any firsthand experience with stuff like this. I personally doubt you will find much information on DV about SG, so I would just go around Google and see what you find. You can also consult a shared dreamer that knows more stuff about this than I do, such as WakingNomad, Raven Knight, &c, &c, &c. WakingNomad has a SG named Zaphor, I'm pretty sure you can find some stuff out about SG by reading some of the tales of Zaphor.

Also, I want to tell you one more thing. She may know a lot more about your life than you may think. There is something called the Akashic Records which is basically a compilation of all of past and future history, if that makes sense of you. It is mainly referred to as something that has your whole life story, even that parts that you haven't yet experienced, including past lives. Some psychics try to access this through a specific form of meditation. If they can access it, then SG and other dream plane entities can access it easily.

Well, I wish you best in your learning!

Maybe she's an angel or spirit or something. I dunno. I think it'd be cool to have someonr like that in my dreams.

Originally Posted by guitardreamer

Maybe she's an angel or spirit or something. I dunno. I think it'd be cool to have someonr like that in my dreams.

If you had a angel in your dreams, I don't think it would like you doing anything bad, so hope it doesn't watch you all the time.

Originally Posted by Raetin

If you had a angel in your dreams, I don't think it would like you doing anything bad, so hope it doesn't watch you all the time.

Yeah you're right... Yeah I've killed people in my dreams before so... never mind. Lol.

this reminds me of a book by Robert Wagonner called 'Gateway to lucid dreaming'. In it he talks of DC's who are more intelligent and self-aware and gives theories on their origin. In fact most of the book is comprised of information related to your dream. I would definitely recommend you download a copy or something if you're interested in understanding these DCs.

Originally Posted by LucidPower

this reminds me of a book by Robert Wagonner called 'Gateway to lucid dreaming'. In it he talks of DC's who are more intelligent and self-aware and gives theories on their origin. In fact most of the book is comprised of information related to your dream. I would definitely recommend you download a copy or something if you're interested in understanding these DCs.

Is it THIS book?

Originally Posted by Hyu

Unfortunately I read your post only after meeting her again, I think my questions would have been more precise, had I read it sooner.
Your description of a SG does fit remarkably well.
As mentioned earlier, she did say that she was an inhabitant of the dream world, and she is very knowledgeable about it.
She also has full access to all my memories, including all my thoughts and emotions.

Mate, every dream character you create is an inhabitant of the dream world and would be knowledgeable (if you assigned that attribute to them) about that dream world because you created it and the the rules within it. Furthermore, every dream character you create has access to all your thoughts and feelings. They are, for goodness sake, parts of you! They're all a reflection of yourself no matter how fragmented and slight each of them may be in their representation of your greater personality.

It worries me when people are so quick to equate stuff like this to some crazy, mystical, supernatural, apparition.

Originally Posted by Foul

Mate, every dream character you create is an inhabitant of the dream world and would be knowledgeable (if you assigned that attribute to them) about that dream world because you created it and the the rules within it. Furthermore, every dream character you create has access to all your thoughts and feelings. They are, for goodness sake, parts of you! They're all a reflection of yourself no matter how fragmented and slight each of them may be in their representation of your greater personality.

It worries me when people are so quick to equate stuff like this to some crazy, mystical, supernatural, apparition.

I couldn't say that better.

Originally Posted by Foul

Mate, every dream character you create is an inhabitant of the dream world and would be knowledgeable (if you assigned that attribute to them) about that dream world because you created it and the the rules within it. Furthermore, every dream character you create has access to all your thoughts and feelings. They are, for goodness sake, parts of you! They're all a reflection of yourself no matter how fragmented and slight each of them may be in their representation of your greater personality.

It worries me when people are so quick to equate stuff like this to some crazy, mystical, supernatural, apparition.

It worries me when people are so closed minded. Nobody can really say with any certainty what anything from a dream means or is. I'm not saying my belief lies one way or another, but I'm certainly open to the possibility. Closing off a more spiritual hypothesis seems silly to me when you don't actually know any better than the guy looking for an explanation.

Originally Posted by Foul

Mate, every dream character you create is an inhabitant of the dream world and would be knowledgeable (if you assigned that attribute to them) about that dream world because you created it and the the rules within it. Furthermore, every dream character you create has access to all your thoughts and feelings. They are, for goodness sake, parts of you! They're all a reflection of yourself no matter how fragmented and slight each of them may be in their representation of your greater personality.

It worries me when people are so quick to equate stuff like this to some crazy, mystical, supernatural, apparition.

You apparently do not understand the difference between DCs, a SG, your Inner World, and the Dream Plane. I will explain it.

A DC is something created by your subconscious, or if, you're lucid, your conscious. A SG is not something created by you, but rather an actual entity that resides on the dream plane. Now, your Inner World is basically your own dream bubble, sorta like your house. Now, the Dream Plane is something you can access when you leave your "house", which the SG can access anytime she wants (either the "house" or dream plane). So, really, a SG is in a way a part of you, but not in a way that DCs are. Similar to a relationship between a mentor and a student, which can be strong at most times. DCs are your own creation, SGs aren't.

Do your research before coming to conclusions so quickly. Also, you can't be rational with this subject because it is in a dream setting, and dreams are in no way rational. You should be able to say that yourself, as you should have some form of dream recall at this point.

Also, I'm not equating it to be something supernatural, I simply narrowed down the possibilities until I got to something supernatural. Neither a DG nor a DC adds up to what he described, so I firmly believe it is a SG.

Originally Posted by Snowboy

You apparently do not understand the difference between DCs, a SG, your Inner World, and the Dream Plane. I will explain it.

A DC is something created by your subconscious, or if, you're lucid, your conscious. A SG is not something created by you, but rather an actual entity that resides on the dream plane. Now, your Inner World is basically your own dream bubble, sorta like your house. Now, the Dream Plane is something you can access when you leave your "house", which the SG can access anytime she wants (either the "house" or dream plane). So, really, a SG is in a way a part of you, but not in a way that DCs are. Similar to a relationship between a mentor and a student, which can be strong at most times. DCs are your own creation, SGs aren't.

Do your research before coming to conclusions so quickly. Also, you can't be rational with this subject because it is in a dream setting, and dreams are in no way rational. You should be able to say that yourself, as you should have some form of dream recall at this point.

Also, I'm not equating it to be something supernatural, I simply narrowed down the possibilities until I got to something supernatural. Neither a DG nor a DC adds up to what he described, so I firmly believe it is a SG.

Oh I get it. And In my opinion it's nonsense.
And as for telling me to do my research; I refuse to read books written by hippies who can't accept exactly how bland they, in fact, are.
Furthermore, I suggest you check out some Jungian theory before you try to throw your weight around as the character he's describing comes close to fitting the persona's proposed therein. Carl Jung is thought to be one of the most well known pioneers in the field of dream analysis, the fact that a large majority of people on this website overlook his work is amazing.

Hyu, sweet dreams. I hope you draw a conclusion from your dreams that you can accept and work with.

Originally Posted by Foul

I suggest you check out some Jungian theory

How does that fit in with what he described?! I don't see very much connection whatsoever! I feel that a DG explanation would make more sense than that!

First off, this isn't dream analysis. We are just trying to find an explanation for what she is. Second, I would like to know how he would feel very happy around a different part of himself. If it was his female persona then he would feel equal with her! Obviously he doesn't feel equal with her, so you can't really say that it is a female persona of him. You can't feel inequality with yourself, as it just doesn't make sense! If you actually read through my explanation of a SG and assume it isn't part of some dream plane theory and whatnot you might actually find that it fits his description of the character really well! And just how hard would it be to explain a female persona? In his most recent dream post he said that she said that it was too complicated for her to explain to him what she was. Like I said before, how is a female persona complicated? And how would they know more about the dream world as you? They're a part of you, they share the same memory and skills, so why should she be superior to him?

Have fun trying to answer all of those questions.