Quote Originally Posted by Darkmatters View Post
I'm pretty sure that won't work, since he's a natural, who learned to recognize the dream state in nightmares as a kid, and now that recognition carries through any time his dreams get frightening. A person who has learned to recognize the dream state this way doesn't need the bells and whistles the rest of us have to use to try to train ourselves for that recognition. It sounds like that's also how you first became lucid Joanna, but in your case I suspect it faded with age and the changing of the proper chemical balance in your brain.

I'm not sure a natural can stop being a natural no matter how hard they try (until age wipes the slate clean for them). A shame they're always in strict denial of the power lucid dreaming would give them over nightmares and scary dreams.
No, I never was a natural lucid dreamer - I learned because I wanted to learn to LD 20 years ago - and I guess you are right that they are different, and in that case I don't have any good idea on how to stop a natural LD, maybe it cannot be done but maybe it can be after all somehow.