Quote Originally Posted by Sageous View Post
there may be people who can have some sense that they are dreaming during the dream -- but without the requisite self-awareness and memory that true LD'ing requires.
Interesting - so what naturals experience, at least at first, before they achieve true lucidity (according to your theory) would be like what I sometimes experience when I get the feeling in a dream tht this is "another one of - these things" - where I'm aware that the laws of physics and normality are suspended, and where if you look away from something and then back it will probably be gone or different.. and yet it's not actual lucidity. I'm not self-aware enough to do an RC for instance, or stabilize, and turn it into full lucidity so I can take control or just leave the premises if I want. Hmmm yeah, that makes sense.