Thread: My basic take on LDing techniques

Originally Posted by Intrepidity

How you have lucid dreams without WBTB and MILD?

Well, technically, I do WBTB - however, I only stay up for less than a minute. I raise my head, do a quick RC, and get into WILD/SSILD position.

MILD is really just a fany way of increasing the chance for a DILD - and it hasn't really worked for me. I find that SSILD and WILD produce the best and most results.

Originally Posted by DreamscapeGoat

Well, technically, I do WBTB - however, I only stay up for less than a minute. I raise my head, look at the time, do a quick RC, and get into WILD/SSILD position.

MILD is really just a fancy way of increasing the chance for a DILD - and it hasn't really worked for me. I find that SSILD and WILD produce the best and most results.

This.

(P.S: Gratz on 300 posts. I have been here 1/2 a year before you and you outpost me lol)

Originally Posted by DreamscapeGoat

Well, technically, I do WBTB - however, I only stay up for less than a minute. I raise my head, do a quick RC, and get into WILD/SSILD position.

MILD is really just a fany way of increasing the chance for a DILD - and it hasn't really worked for me. I find that SSILD and WILD produce the best and most results.

Oh, that makes sense now.

Once you wake up how long does it take before you enter the dream? Assuming there is some consistency.

Originally Posted by Intrepidity

Once you wake up how long does it take before you enter the dream?

It feels like 10-20 minutes, which means maybe closer to 30-40.

Originally Posted by DreamscapeGoat

It feels like 10-20 minutes, which means maybe closer to 30-40.

For the WILD, but do DEILD. See why mental prep might be useful!? you need it to do DEILDs, and they are the best!

Everyone watch, I am about to reach 1000 Hall Points!!

Originally Posted by DreamscapeGoat

It feels like 10-20 minutes, which means maybe closer to 30-40.

Really? I'm a little surprised, just given that my WILDs tend to be shorter; so as long as I'm sleepy enough I get into that hallucinating tingly state nearly instantly (~10 seconds) of getting in position, and then it takes me maybe what feels like(?) 5 minutes to pass through nREM and then the dream starts to form--although this is given the fact that my WILDs are always very late in the night (after roughly 6-7 hours of sleep) so my nREM period is very short by then anyway. Different for everyone, I suppose?

Then, on the opposite side of the coin, if I'm not sleepy enough, I'll usually lie there for about 30 minutes and then drift off into normal sleep, oops.

Anyway, the only combination I use is mostly DILD+WILD+DEILD, with the occasional sprinkle (quite uncommon) of MILD and WBTB. DILDs I've always had often, simply from overtime I've learned to recognize what a dream feels like and so-and-so, so I get those commonly and usually at random. The past couple of months via autosuggestion I've been training myself to wake up naturally in the night to do WILDs/DEILDs (can't use alarms, I have family sleeping in the room right next to mine). Since I wake up naturally when that happens, I try for DEILD first. If I wasn't lucid in the dream before, or I was simply already too awake when I became conscious, I do WILD instead. If that fails, as a last resort I usually make a lazy WBTB attempt (jot down my previous dreams, do a little MILD, go back to sleep).

MILDs I usually do, like I said during WBTBs, and whenever I'm just feeling really exceptionally confident one night. Usually MILD doesn't work for me, but when I'm feeling confident I'll have a lucid dream and motivated to have one as well, those are usually the nights I do the typical mantras as I'm falling asleep and they tend to work as well.

Originally Posted by Maxis

DILDs I've always had often, simply from overtime I've learned to recognize what a dream feels like

Aha! That is bcz of hightened self-awareness.

Originally Posted by Maxis

Really? I'm a little surprised, just given that my WILDs tend to be shorter; so as long as I'm sleepy enough I get into that hallucinating tingly state nearly instantly (~10 seconds) of getting in position, and then it takes me maybe what feels like(?) 5 minutes to pass through nREM and then the dream starts to form--although this is given the fact that my WILDs are always very late in the night (after roughly 6-7 hours of sleep) so my nREM period is very short by then anyway. Different for everyone, I suppose?

Again, I say that it feels like 10-20 minutes - my perception of time is fairly skewed when I'm tired, so the feeling of time passing isn't correct.

Originally Posted by DreamscapeGoat

Again, I say that it feels like 10-20 minutes - my perception of time is fairly skewed when I'm tired, so the feeling of time passing isn't correct.

Me too! 1.5 hours pass like 30 min. Maybe I fall asleep, but no, I never lost my consciousness. Could I be blacking out? I am a heavy breather(which is weird cuz I'm underweight), so maybe I lack oxygen during the attempts to breath through my nose. It has happened to me before, much worse too(5 hours felt like 1 min full consciousness, but again, I blacked out)

Originally Posted by DreamscapeGoat

Again, I say that it feels like 10-20 minutes - my perception of time is fairly skewed when I'm tired, so the feeling of time passing isn't correct.

Ooh, that's true, I tend to get the same way. It would be cool if there was a way to time it somehow, makes you wonder how long it actually takes.

Originally Posted by Intrepidity

Has this happened your whole life and you are just a natural, or did it happen after you started practicing lucid dreaming?

My whole life mostly, but it wasn't for no reason. I think some of my earliest LDs were when I was 4 or so (I didn't hear the term of LDing until I was around 11), and they were from recurring nightmares--after a while, I realized what was going on and think "hey, this is familiar," get lucid, wake myself up (it was a couple of years before I realized I could control the dream). It happened quite often to the point where I learned what a dream "felt" like and how it was different from reality, which is where my DILDs mostly come from today.

So yeah, I suppose I'm a natural, although I will admit that ever since I started fully practicing lucid dreaming (tried it when I was 11, put it aside for a few years, started it up again just last year), my dreams and LDs have been a lot more vivid, longer, and worthwhile. The effort definitely counts.

Originally Posted by Maxis

My whole life mostly, but it wasn't for no reason. I think some of my earliest LDs were when I was 4 or so (I didn't hear the term of LDing until I was around 11), and they were from recurring nightmares--after a while, I realized what was going on and think "hey, this is familiar," get lucid, wake myself up (it was a couple of years before I realized I could control the dream). It happened quite often to the point where I learned what a dream "felt" like and how it was different from reality, which is where my DILDs mostly come from today.

So yeah, I suppose I'm a natural, although I will admit that ever since I started fully practicing lucid dreaming (tried it when I was 11, put it aside for a few years, started it up again just last year), my dreams and LDs have been a lot more vivid, longer, and worthwhile. The effort definitely counts.

So, a NovaDreamer is gonna help me get used to the dream "feel" more quickly because of the more LDs? Of course I will continue to practice self-awareness

Originally Posted by Maxis

So yeah, I suppose I'm a natural, although I will admit that ever since I started fully practicing lucid dreaming (tried it when I was 11, put it aside for a few years, started it up again just last year), my dreams and LDs have been a lot more vivid, longer, and worthwhile. The effort definitely counts.

I guess lucid reaming is just like any skill and natural ability can only take you so far without effort.

Originally Posted by LuoaiB

Also, I like to do 2-3 WBTBs a night for WILDs and MILDs. mainly MILDs when I feel like it. MILD at first WBTB, then WILD with a dash of mantras in second WBTB. As I like

I'm assuming you perform these WBTB's after certain amounts of sleep. 3, 4.5, 6... ect.
Do you have a specific time which you find more successful than others?

Originally Posted by Maxis

DILDs I've always had often, simply from overtime I've learned to recognize what a dream feels like and so-and-so, so I get those commonly and usually at random.

Has this happened your whole life and you are just a natural, or did it happen after you started practicing lucid dreaming?

Originally Posted by Maxis

Aha! That is bcz of hightened self-awareness.

I am kind of locked in a dual with self-awareness at the moment. The more aware I become in my dreams the more they mirror reality making it harder to find impossible or unlikely features. Its almost like my mind is mocking me.

Originally Posted by Intrepidity

I am kind of locked in a dual with self-awareness at the moment. The more aware I become in my dreams the more they mirror reality making it harder to find impossible or unlikely features. Its almost like my mind is mocking me.

Self-awareness is when you are aware of your current state. When you become good at it(it will take a lot of time though) you will just know you are dreaming when you're dreaming, like the pros. But for now, it will increase your chances for DILD because it makes it easier to remember ,when you see something weird, that it is dreamlike. So, practice self-awareness during the day to become mere self-aware in dreams. Don't forget that it is important for WILD too!
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