I think dream recall is a bit random for me but much better on weekends and on high dose melatonin |
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...and thus: |
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I think dream recall is a bit random for me but much better on weekends and on high dose melatonin |
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Sure LUCID DREAMS are all fun and games until someone loses a third eye.
Perhaps a bit off-topic but regarding recall, what you get out of it largely depends on the effort you put into it. If you reach for recall at every waking, day in an day out, in thick or thin, I think it can't help but grow and grow over time. |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
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Maybe it is on topic, as it involves memory and the state of non-lucid awareness (lack of). |
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^^ Sure there is a relation, because any act of using memory is related to memory in general. So if you are improving some aspect of memory's use, you are likely improving to some degree your relationship with your memory. But that's as far as it goes, I think. |
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Last edited by Sageous; 02-15-2015 at 05:52 PM.
I thought this was interesting: As I was getting close to falling asleep at some point this morning, I started thinking of a particular activity I usually do on the weekends, thinking I had forgotten to do it. After a moment, I was regaining awareness again and started to realize I had in fact done that activity already. This makes me wonder if the access to memory starts to get turned off quite early in the sleep process—for me, dreamlets like these often begin occurring well before I actually lose consciousness. |
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Haha. Yeah, those moments when you are like "what is that noise?! Oh... it is me snoring." Lol |
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In my lucid last night I remembered about this thread, and I decided to try and remember where I was IWL, and it was interesting hehe. I immediately thought ''I'm asleep at *insert address here*" without a doubt in the world. However, that address was where I was in the dream (my mum's house) not where I was sleeping then (my dad's house). I also had fairly low level lucidity in that dream, which I feel may be linked to my memory being shut off like in that instance. What do you guys who know far more than me bout this think? |
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^^ That's interesting. It seems you didn't have quite enough lucidity to truly remember where your sleeping body was, just like you said. Or: |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
^On the other hand, perhaps it is this automatic suggestion that is to be avoided, as it may lead exactly to blairbro's quasi-lucid scenario. The problem is that there is no way to empirically test the veracity of your memory in-dream short of waking yourself to confirm your recollection (an idea nobody here is keen on, I feel). This is a real Cartesian minefield (how do you know you do not dream of dreaming, and then dream of remembering your waking life, etc.?). I therefore suggest that the most fundamental gesture is the memory of a physical reality external to the dream (as has been suggested earlier in the thread) without opening the door to the obfuscations and gap-filling delusions of dream false memory which fogs lucidity. Of course, a semi-LD in which you falsely believe yourself to be sleeping in your childhood home is better than an LD in which you don't remember your sleeping body at all, and such a false memory could even prove a boon when attempting certain dream control tasks for the first time as an artificial confidence boost. |
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My Lucid Dreaming Articles/Tutorials:
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Always, no sometimes think it's me,
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think I know I mean a yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree
-John Lennon
Isn't this what I have been saying pretty much since the OP? You are phrasing as if you disagree, yet I cannot find anything that runs contrary to what I've been saying. Except for this, and only slightly: |
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^^ I'm not "doing SBC" when awake, I'm just reminding myself to do it when lucid. I've had good results with this approach (rehearsing the "just got lucid moment" when awake) with no signs of false lucid experiences. |
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FryingMan's Unified Theory of Lucid Dreaming: Pay Attention, Reflect, Recall -- Both Day and Night[link]
FryingMan's Dream Recall Tips -- Awesome Links
“No amount of security is worth the suffering of a mediocre life chained to a routine that has killed your dreams.”
"...develop stability in awareness and your dreams will change in extraordinary ways" -- TYoDaS
This may not be very significant, but I thought I might mention it in case it proves interesting—humble apologies if it isn't, or if it is actually unrelated to the topic at hand. Sometimes I'm noticing that after I wake up from a dream (and therefore have normal memory access again), it apparently isn't until I consciously go over the dream that the details actually get reevaluated within my current context of waking memory. |
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Last edited by TravisE; 02-21-2015 at 03:06 AM.
^^ That's not a bad idea, Travis, but maybe not for the reason you suggest. I think that you would already need access to memory (like you had when remembering that dream upon waking) to do this during a LD, so it likely won't help in that department. But it could be a good thing to do for other reasons. |
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Last edited by Sageous; 02-21-2015 at 08:04 AM.
Ok, so my next LD goal is to "remember where my sleeping body is". And maybe what I was doing just before going to bed. |
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^^ That sounds like a fine idea, Gab, with one possible caveat: |
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What about remembering specific details and events from you day, like: What albums did I listen to, what did I eat for dinner, etc.? To me it seems like that kind of recall is fairly unambiguous in regards to the pseudo-lucid problem. |
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My Lucid Dreaming Articles/Tutorials:
Mindfulness - An Alternative Approach to ADA
Intent in Lucid Dreaming; Break that Dry-Spell, Escape the Technique Rut
Always, no sometimes think it's me,
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think I know I mean a yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree
-John Lennon
^^ Sure, that recall regimen is possible; after you've accessed memory. |
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You've just made me realise the extent I had over-complicated this. Remembering your sleeping body is the conceptual bridge to waking memory as such, stepping out of the cave of the dream world into the real world in which you are a sleeping body, dreaming. I think I've got it now. |
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My Lucid Dreaming Articles/Tutorials:
Mindfulness - An Alternative Approach to ADA
Intent in Lucid Dreaming; Break that Dry-Spell, Escape the Technique Rut
Always, no sometimes think it's me,
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think I know I mean a yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree
-John Lennon
^^ I believe you do ... And I hope you won't mind if I borrow that metaphor in the future... |
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My Lucid Dreaming Articles/Tutorials:
Mindfulness - An Alternative Approach to ADA
Intent in Lucid Dreaming; Break that Dry-Spell, Escape the Technique Rut
Always, no sometimes think it's me,
But you know I know when it's a dream
I think I know I mean a yes
But it's all wrong
That is I think I disagree
-John Lennon
^^ |
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Last edited by Sageous; 03-03-2015 at 07:35 PM.
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