Thread: Parents think LDing is an occult...

@ yuriythebest: I assure you all that the USA is still a very VERY religious country, especially the southern states. We have a set of states nicknamed "the bible belt" and that's no exaggeration. If you're not christian you're not American here, you're a piece of shit... trust me. I would hate to be a foreign exchange student coming to a southern christian family in the US and not being christian, or having different values.

Originally Posted by MementoMori

I assure you all that the USA is still a very VERY religious country, especially the southern states. We have a set of states nicknamed "the bible belt" and that's no exaggeration. If you're not christian you're not American here, you're a piece of shit... trust me. I would hate to be a foreign exchange student coming to a southern christian family in the US and not being christian, or having different values.

Oh man... I'd feel sorry for that exchange student. =( It really depends on the family, though; some of us are perfectly capable of respecting other people's religious views (or lack thereof). Others, though... well, not so much.

I'm not religious. Nobody cares.

Originally Posted by jarrhead

Yeah for real it REALLY bugs me when my main interest is frowned upon.

Bass - I can sort of understand where people are coming from. But they're just really ignorant. Still, everybody looks down on your for playing. Cause you "can't hear it. You have four strings, you hit one note at a time, you're supporting."

You would notice if they quit playing. I play with 5/6 strings. You don't always hit one note. Not always.

don't ever let people tell you to stop playing bass. music would be shit without bass. if they can't hear it, then they aren't listening to the whole song. i play guitar, but i would hate to play with just me and drums, it would suck. i love bass!

edit: also im religious, i go to church when im able, and i don't think lucid dreaming is demonic or whatever. i think people who do are just stupid and ignorant.

I have similar problems! I thought that they'd think this way, so I just haven't told them yet , they don't often take me seriously about that kind of thing anyway. It's anoying though, because in the morning when I try to dream recall (I'm fairly new at this so it can be difficult), I wait in my bed and concentrate and they won't leave me alone! They say "get up now!" and when I say I'm trying to concentrate they laugh and say "on what, sleeping?"... It's discouraging

Originally Posted by James2302

don't ever let people tell you to stop playing bass. music would be shit without bass. if they can't hear it, then they aren't listening to the whole song. i play guitar, but i would hate to play with just me and drums, it would suck. i love bass!

edit: also im religious, i go to church when im able, and i don't think lucid dreaming is demonic or whatever. i think people who do are just stupid and ignorant.

People who frown on lucid dreaming are totally ignorant.
As well as people who frown on bass.


Say, you like bass and play guitar, look up Protest the Hero or Between the Buried and me. Insane synergy and riffs.



I have no idea why people frown on LDing. I mean really, what the hell?

In an attempt to keep this thread on it's original topic...


My family is fairly religious, but that doesn't mean you can't be open. I don't discuss dreams with my family much, although they all understand lucid dreaming. It does surprise me that so many people don't believe in lds..considering the majority of adults have at least one as a child.

My parents vaguely know from the one or two occasions I've mentioned it. They don't really care though. So yay for me.

Ugh. i know so many people who think it's all bullshit. It's so annoying.

you know what? we need to have several psychologists and scientists on DV write an article on how LDing is NOT demonic or spiritual and how completely scientific it is, and publish it to like National Geographic or something. then you could show your ignorant parents and say "yea, suck it in my lucid dreams, bitch!!" lol
edit: in fact, the lucid dreaming book project should have something like that also.

Actually, it is just bullshit. Everyone here who's said they've had an LD is a lying sonofa bitch. Eventually everyone get's fed up with having 0 LD's so they just start lying. And yet this forum is so big and Alex paid thousands of dollars for it. Weird, right?

Originally Posted by Xedan

Actually, it is just bullshit. Everyone here who's said they've had an LD is a lying sonofa bitch. Eventually everyone get's fed up with having 0 LD's so they just start lying. And yet this forum is so big and Alex paid thousands of dollars for it. Weird, right?

i know right? and then they go in all the forums and brag about their awesome ld skills they seemingly got overnight. i hate it. they need to work on a machine that records your dreams.

Originally Posted by jarrhead

Yeah for real it REALLY bugs me when my main interest is frowned upon.

Bass - I can sort of understand where people are coming from. But they're just really ignorant. Still, everybody looks down on your for playing. Cause you "can't hear it. You have four strings, you hit one note at a time, you're supporting."

You would notice if they quit playing. I play with 5/6 strings. You don't always hit one note. Not always.


Lucid Dreaming - I don't understand this at all.

Totally know what you mean about the bass... nobody I know has the same love for music as I do. In result they never really listen to music. I listen to this heavy metal band... everyone else says it sounds the same on every song. But they don't listen. They don't hear the violin and viola in the background, or the bass, or the guitar still playing after the intro... the world need's to listen and be more open.

Originally Posted by James2302

i know right? and then they go in all the forums and brag about their awesome ld skills they seemingly got overnight. i hate it. they need to work on a machine that records your dreams.

They have that, more or less. Obviously they're perfecting it in Japan that country can do anything.

Originally Posted by Xedan

They have that, more or less. Obviously they're perfecting it in Japan that country can do anything.

So it would seem...this being one of the more practical inventions, though I do like the weed-removing golf club thing...that is full of epic win.

Originally Posted by xedan

They have that, more or less. Obviously they're perfecting it in Japan that country can do anything.

oh, the machine that recognizes letters when you think about them? yea i heard about that. those japanese people are so smart. i need to go to college there lol.

Originally Posted by Xedan

...Japan that country can do anything.

this^x2

Originally Posted by James2302

oh, the machine that recognizes letters when you think about them? yea i heard about that. those japanese people are so smart. i need to go to college there lol.

no, they're actually developing a machine that will be able to record dreams like a movie

WHAT?!?!?!? where? can i haz a link?, that sounds awesome!

My dad thinks it's hippy BS, but he's smart enough to not believe in witchcraft >.>

Originally Posted by MementoMori

no, they're actually developing a machine that will be able to record dreams like a movie

It was a thread in this section or the new/announcements section a month or 2 ago, search button should work

Originally Posted by MementoMori

no, they're actually developing a machine that will be able to record dreams like a movie

Is that the same as the machine that records what you're seeing? So if you were seeing a dream, then that's what it would record. I did my science project on that last year.

Originally Posted by Xedan

Actually, it is just bullshit. Everyone here who's said they've had an LD is a lying sonofa bitch. Eventually everyone get's fed up with having 0 LD's so they just start lying. And yet this forum is so big and Alex paid thousands of dollars for it. Weird, right?

sorry I don't quite understand if this is sarcasm or serious
mm but what would be the point? wouldn't ppl rather go to say, a more non-esoteric forum to brag about stuff? If I were to lie about stuff on the web it'd probably be about the amount of money or say I have a Lamborghini or something. Btw I'm not perfect at LD-ing

Originally Posted by yuriythebest

sorry I don't quite understand if this is sarcasm or serious
mm but what would be the point? wouldn't ppl rather go to say, a more non-esoteric forum to brag about stuff? If I were to lie about stuff on the web it'd probably be about the amount of money or say I have a Lamborghini or something. Btw I'm not perfect at LD-ing

Lol, unless I am horribly mistaken, it's sarcasm.

Originally Posted by * Diamond Eyes *

My brother used to be interested in it, but now that I have them and used to talk about them all the time, he doesnt seem interested anymore, and gets annoyed when I mention it now.

Yeah see... he had the power at first... he was able to do something special, but then you came along with more knowledge of it than him and you took the power. Pissed him off is what it did.

Lucid dreaming is power and freedom and it's a personal treasure that nobody can take away (unless they kill you or torture you to not let you sleep). People don't like when you have power and freedom that they cant touch.

Dogmatic religions fear freedom and power for individuals. I'm not saying God or any Gods fear it... heck as far as I know they tend to communicate with their messiahs through dreams and visions, right? But the people who like to use religion to control others like to be the only ones holding the reigns. And a lot of people who follow religions rather mindlessly just automatically dislike the idea of anything that promises power or freedom to individuals.