Thread: WILD - Wake Initiated Lucid Dream

Originally Posted by Sageous

^^ Nicely said, OpheliaBlue, bit is there a non sequitur here?

Aren't the DV dream guides currently trying to say that SP is an actual medical condition suffered by a very small segment of the population, and the "SP" that WILDer's (erroneously) try to "get to" is not SP at all, but simply their witnessing of REM Atonia or just a bit more hypnagogia?

Normally I wouldn't ask, what with this place pretty much being your show and all, but the contradiction could potentially confuse, I think, and your authority as a god of DV only compounds the confusion.

I won't mind if you delete this post because I went to far, BTW; I'm not proud.

You know Sageous, if it weren't for your teachings, through RareCola's recommendations, I might still be stumbling through those transitions, forever eluded by the subtleties that could have and would have guided me to WILDs. Because of you, I learned to "open my dream eyes" once I felt the vibrations reach their peak, and once I saw something form. A valuable lesson for me and I can't thank you enough for it!

That said, I'm not sure I understand the issue with SP the way you present it. Or perhaps I don't understand the issue in regards to how my team is presenting it. From MY perspective, it's the same as the vibrations phase: You might feel it, you might not, it's nothing to be scared of, but it's also not necessary to aim for. You haven't failed at progressing towards WILD if you didn't get to SP or vibrations. Everyone is so different. Which makes WILDs hard to teach here I know, I KNOW.

So, I'm honestly not sure if/when a dreamer is experiencing SP, or vibrations, or REM atonia, or HH just by reading their posts alone. I only know what I experience, and I hit it against other dreamers' experiences, hoping to find similarities that we can relate to to further increase the chance of LDs, but at the same time, not flooding their minds with scary, or elusive concepts that'll just cock block their attempts at lucid dreaming. It's a tricky balance, but it's something we can strive for together, and I promise to listen to what y'all have to say and put the best information out there before anything else.