Thread: Senses Initiated Lucid Dream (SSILD)

I NEED further knowledge about this method, WHY IS IT WORKING?
One does not simply lucid dream by messing with ones senses.

Originally Posted by daban

I NEED further knowledge about this method, WHY IS IT WORKING?
One does not simply lucid dream by messing with ones senses.

Hello Daban,

What do you fear might happen?

I've succeeded with the method but I'm just interested in why and what happens in the brain..
Why does this give so much FA's and DEILDS? :O

Originally Posted by daban

I've succeeded with the method but I'm just interested in why and what happens in the brain..
Why does this give so much FA's and DEILDS? :O

Well, I can't answer that one as I have not done much lucid dreaming with this or any other method. However, I do use it, or a very similar method, when I meditate. As for what happens in the brain, I can't say. Do we know what happens in the brain with any of the other methods?

Originally Posted by GoldenLight

Well, I can't answer that one as I have not done much lucid dreaming with this or any other method. However, I do use it, or a very similar method, when I meditate. As for what happens in the brain, I can't say. Do we know what happens in the brain with any of the other methods?

Haha I'm not sure.. Well the other techniques have made somewhat sense but this is.. I just don't get how it works Anyway, I'm happy it does.

I'll send you a pm about a question I have. I don't want the thread to go off topic.

Originally Posted by mutualdreamer

I did everything perfect and was undisturbed but I still didn't get lucid Dx. I told myself to wake up after 5 hours, woke up at some time, used bathroom, got water, did 5 cycles, fell asleep in good time, had normal dream .
Tonight I will try not getting up at all and see if it goes better then.

I did exactly what you did. I woke up, wrote dot points about a non lucid I had, went to the bathroom, did the exercises and fell asleep all in good time. I had a ripper of a non lucid but no FA's this time. I'll just keep doing it. Tell me how not getting up works when you have results.

Originally Posted by Sea07

I did exactly what you did. I woke up, wrote dot points about a non lucid I had, went to the bathroom, did the exercises and fell asleep all in good time. I had a ripper of a non lucid but no FA's this time. I'll just keep doing it. Tell me how not getting up works when you have results.

Im sorry but your last sentence makes no sense to me. Lol please rephrase :p

Originally Posted by mutualdreamer

Im sorry but your last sentence makes no sense to me. Lol please rephrase :p

Ha, sorry. I'm tired this morning. You said earlier that you would try not getting up for the bathroom when you wake up for SSILD. Please tell me how this works for you.

I tried this last night, and I got a lucid out of it! (First attempt! How's that?!)
Is it just me, or does this make you really aware and energised?
My dad informed me that I was shouting in my sleep last night, though. Not sure if there's any relation.

Originally Posted by yuppie11975

I tried this last night, and I got a lucid out of it! (First attempt! How's that?!)
Is it just me, or does this make you really aware and energised?
My dad informed me that I was shouting in my sleep last night, though. Not sure if there's any relation.

Oh, that's great! Huh, the technique didn't make me energized but it certainly made me more aware of my dream state. About the shouting, that's hilarious but I don't know what could have caused that. Are you trying it again tonight?

Sure am
Hahahah, apparently dad came in and asked me what was up
And I replied "I'm here, I'm here" Repeatedly.

Huh, that's creepy. Well good luck tonight.

I have been doing this for a month.No the technique.The WBTB.
I always set the alarm wake for a few moments or seconds to say and forget to do the technique.
I dunno why.I always forget to do the technique.
Anybody has solution for this?

@Chetan, Maybe you need to stay up a little longer to get your mind jogging again, then you'll remember to do the technique. Actually getting out of bed may help.

I keep waking up and trying the technique right away and just seem to fall asleep before I get through it. Or I'll have a hard time 'not focussing'. I think the falling asleep too soon should be easy to fix but does anyone else have trouble not focussing too hard?

Originally Posted by yuppie11975

Sure am
Hahahah, apparently dad came in and asked me what was up
And I replied "I'm here, I'm here" Repeatedly.

What was your lucid about? De you remember saying anything in it?

Originally Posted by McDreamy

@Chetan, Maybe you need to stay up a little longer to get your mind jogging again, then you'll remember to do the technique. Actually getting out of bed may help.

I keep waking up and trying the technique right away and just seem to fall asleep before I get through it. Or I'll have a hard time 'not focussing'. I think the falling asleep too soon should be easy to fix but does anyone else have trouble not focussing too hard?

I have focusing issues as well. I'm always drifting off but jut bring myself back to the task. I usually just force myself to focus on the exercises and that helps. Well I tried this method again last night. I had a sub-lucid because it was so fuzzy and I lost lucidity very soon. I'll give this tech a few more tries but I'm not sure if it's doing much for me, plus schools going back tomorrow so I can't afford to lose any sleep.

That's awesome yuppie!

Oh and the same thing happened yesterday night that happened that night before. I did the technique almost perfectly, and then I fell asleep but never got to lucidity. Just a normal dream.

I think I'm going to try and give this a few weeks of doing it, now that exams are almost done and I can afford to spend some time with WBTB's. I imagine it will still take a bit of time to get this technique right, even though some people are having some very quick results with it.

I know were not supposed to do it before bed but I tried 'practicing' not focusing too hard last night before sleep and then had my first lucid (although 2 seconds or less) in a long time in the first part of my sleep before my WBTB.

@McDreamy
So you did this before going to bed and it worked? That's interesting, perhaps I will try that instead of waking up during the night because I just simply cannot afford to lose sleep. Who knows, it might work.

Originally Posted by daban

I NEED further knowledge about this method, WHY IS IT WORKING?
One does not simply lucid dream by messing with ones senses.

Will have to experiment a bit, but the mechanism seems straightforward enough, to me anyways.

'Focusing' on WL senses as you drift off makes you more aware of your environment, and with a lack of other thoughts or inputs from which to build associations, dream formation will take its course using your sleeping location as the root schema.

It's the same reason passive/anchored WILDs often begin with an FA, except this is a more natural approach that encapsulates the details in order to pull off a sort of super-MILD.

It's quite brilliant, really. I think I'll make this a regular part of my daily naps.

@Sea07
Ya it was a complete accident, I wasn't trying to have an LD without doing a WBTB. Was just seeing if I could do it without focussing too hard. Ya who knows, give it a shot and let us know what happens.

@McDreamy
Huh, yes I'll try it and report back when I get the chance.

This is pretty crazy
I look forward to trying again tonight!
Hahahah, I always forget what three things to do ;3 You know how you can't really think rationally when you first wake up?
I'm like; "Smell, taste, hear?"
"No, See, hear, smell?"
"No, I remember! "Sight, hear, feel"

Originally Posted by yuppie11975

This is pretty crazy
I look forward to trying again tonight!
Hahahah, I always forget what three things to do ;3 You know how you can't really think rationally when you first wake up?
I'm like; "Smell, taste, hear?"
"No, See, hear, smell?"
"No, I remember! "Sight, hear, feel"

Haha exactly!

Well last night was a flop. I did my WBTB, got back in bed, and totally forgot to do my technique.

For everyone that's succeeded, how long did you stay up in your WBTBs? I usually just use the restroom and get back in bed.
Oh and also how long did you sleep before you got up for your WBTB?