Thread: A method (Interrupted Sleep Audio Method) for lucidity for those who can't get up to WBTB or newbies

Hi Nfri - in the method I described above (the original post) I just refer to a vibrating alarm - I'm sure using this feature on your phone would work well - its a good idea -although the clock I use is good in that you can vary the strength of the vibration - but really the key bit there is that your sleep is interrupted on a very regular basis - audio or other natural methods would be fine too. I found I still got multiple lucid dreams (not included in the above tally) when I stayed in a hotel room and got woken up every 45mins or so by my daughter grinding her teeth for several hours! She would wake me up, I'd lay still, du the audio bit in my head and drop back to sleep and DILD's would follow. The interruption bit is the most key bit (I feel) - using the vibe just makes it happen reliably and silently, but the audio is important to enhance your chances - but reinforcing your intention and also acting to increase awareness (and as described below to prevent habituation to the thing waking you up). The vibe is also the benefit - as you were interested in, that occassionally you might get it incorporated into your dream directly - but these are more of a bonus than a staple.

I also have a soft spot for direct incorporation of the vibe signal into the dream - its quite a cool feeling but from personal experience I would be wary of just using the vibe without the audio - and heres why. I did what you're outlining above some 10 months ago, just used a vibration signal on a timer to try and get lucid (with no audio). And it was moderately successful (I think of 19 times 10 LD's approx?) - although again interestingly only half the times were the LD's through incorporation of the signal into the dream, the others (I think) were because of the interruption to my sleep. HOWEVER I rapidly became habituated to the vibe going off and within a few weeks even the strongest signal wouldn't wake me up or get incorporated into the dream. This is because the vibe is going to go off alot of times NREM sleep and unless you actively do something when this happens (like my audio reality check above) you will be teaching your brain to ignore the signal after a while. Using the audio as directed above stops this habituation (in me at least). The downside is that there are less incorporations (but more total lucidity) in the above method. So in the 20 times I've done the above method I've had maybe 3 incorps, 1-2 LD's, because its much more likely the vibe will wake me up - and I am using it on its lowest setting. If you are interested FryingMan has put a link up about a device which is being developed in which a vibrating cue would be delivered when REM sleep was detected. This may resolve some of the habituation issues http://www.dreamviews.com/lucid-aids...neirics-2.html. Of interest too if you read his post in his thread #23 I think he mentions hes used the REM dreamer, a light cue on a timer, and now sleeps through even the brightest signals - having become - in his own words - habituated to the signal. I have also noticed people doing CAN-WILD, which again involves using an alarm to wake up at regular intervals - also mention that they become more 'immune' to the signal after a while of doing it. The method I've mentioned above counteracts this tendency by associating a definite action with the signal going off - preventing passiveness - which is the root cause of desensitization.

Hope this helps - I think my final advice would be - experiment! You'll have fun and probably get some fun incorporations of the vibe even if you just use the vibe by itself. And if you start to notice you're becoming desensitized to the vibe signal then add on what I've described above and it should help.

cheers - T