Thread: Simplifying SSILD

Originally Posted by dolphin

Frying Man, one of the nice things about this technique is that when you have undivided attention on a sense, you're not focusing on any thoughts which keeps you're head completely clear.

zxchoo09, you can do this every time you go to sleep. It doesn't matter when you wake up.

Hi Zxchoo09, just to echo what Dolphin said above, SSILD can be used at any time day or night and heres a breakdown of the 'whys'

Do SSILD during the daytime whilst sitting / standing up - WHY? Doing SSILD during the day is NOT for inducing a lucid dream, it is used for a great meditation session and also doubles as a practise session. The SSILD cycles are a type of mindful meditation, you are guiding yourself through the cycles concentrating on your senses, On the 'seeing' step you can open your eyes and take everything in and so the daytime SSILD becomes a hybrid of ADA and a productive mindfulness seated meditation session which builds self awareness along with all the other benefits of meditation.

Do SSILD as you lay to sleep - WHY? Doing SSILD as you lay to sleep is NOT to induce a lucid dream per se. Doing SSILD as you lay to sleep acts as a fantastic relaxation method that gets you to sleep fast and once again is great practise for the night ahead

Do SSILD as a WBTB - WHY? So this is where SSILD will be most effective and why it is used for lucid dreaming. Perform a wbtb, I stay up from between 3 and 10 mins. I then get comfy and perform the cycles, the trick is to fall asleep whilst performing the cycles, You should aim for at least 3-4 cycles before you nod off. If you feel you are falling asleep during the very first cycle then you can put your arm or elbow in the air until you have done 3-4 cycles to keep you awake. Remeber, the magic happens AFTER you fall asleep so theres no need to stay still - you can scratch & swallow etc.............. Why does SSILD work? who knows? Fo me the logic is straight-forward - by cycing through the sense you are increasing your self awareness of these senses so as you sleep, your self awareness is raised allowing oddities to be spotted in dreams.

Do SSILD as a WILD - WHY? During the steps above it is possible if you feel like it to continue doing the steps until REM kicks in. You can cycle the steps or as Dolphin does, focus on one of the steps and use it as an anchor to WILD. My last WILD involved me cycling the steps and when I started getting dreamlets i then focused more time and attention of the 'seeing' step, nest thing i know i am feeling vibrations and got on OBE :-)

So SSILD can by mix matched to suit your needs, experiment with adding in other stuff such as a affirmation during the 'hearing' step or what i do is during the 'touch'step i 'feel' my hands and tell myself to reality check next time i see my hands

SSILD is powerful - a very powerful sedative, it really puts you in a trance and can be used for many applications. When i first started out there were 100 techniques to choose from, 100 daytime meditation techniques, 100 'relax to sleep' methods and it all becomes an overwhelming choice.

So you see, you can use SSILD as a one-size-fits-all meditation, lucid dream induction and relaxation aid. If you have not read the tutorial it can be found by googling 'cosmib.iron ssild'

Post successes here and dont forget to add any alterations that you made to the technique - happy SSILD'ing!

Ezzo

Originally Posted by ezzolucid

Post successes here and dont forget to add any alterations that you made to the technique - happy SSILD'ing!

Ezzo

You seem to like SSILD as much as I do. It continues to produce for me (2.5 years), especially after customizing it to my liking (maybe for the last 2 years I am guessing). I am posting my alteration to SSILD as requested above: I go through the 3 senses in each breath, no longer doing short and long cycles and only separating the senses by a few seconds, basically on the visual sense as I breath in, sound at the top of my breath in, and tactile as I am breathing out. Anyone can likely find their favorite alteration by doing it during the day when you are wide awake (I also like your twist on doing in during the day Ezzo) and then testing it at night.

I still like mixing up different types of induction though so that I am not using SSILD every night that I try to get lucid. If I slack on daytime self awareness work, the quality or length of my lucid dreams seems to be affected.

Originally Posted by fogelbise

I go through the 3 senses in each breath, no longer doing short and long cycles and only separating the senses by a few seconds, basically on the visual sense as I breath in, sound at the top of my breath in, and tactile as I am breathing out.

I came across this thread during my deeper research into SSILD today and figured it deserves a nice bump.

SSILD has been my most effect technique but, being in a bit of a slump right now I was looking for improvement tips. I'm glad I did because I will be trying the fogelbise approved SSILD method tonight!

One thing that I realized from this is that I have been experiencing false awakenings when I thought I was experiencing failure. i should have know that flash to suddenly awake was not natural and done a RC. I am SUCH a rookie!

I had some little LDs last night after SSILD! I sometimes have trouble getting to sleep and read that SSILD is also a great insomnia treatment, great for relaxation.

...And it really is, after a few minutes cycling I caught myself drifting off into sleepy thoughts. A couple of times I brought myself back to the cycles and then went into a dream.

Had a couple of DILDs but woke immediately. When I suddenly realise it's a dream, it just fascinates me so much I can't help waking! Although need to focus on expecting a False Awakening - both throughout the SSILD process and also after waking abruptly up from an LD.

Thanks for bumping again lenscaper!

So continuing the bump here.....I read countless positive results from SSILD I kept trying for weeks but would always fall asleep without completing enough cycles and no results. I even found cosmic.irons email and asked him personally how to go about it, but kept falling asleep and nada. This is what I did recently (last 2 nights) and have had great results. I recorded myself going through all the cycles, doing the fast ones first and then 4 regular ones timed at 30 seconds for each sense. Just kind of like a guided meditation. "Focus on your vision.........what do you see.............", ....."now focus on your hearing.......notice new sounds......". Not too much talking on each cycle, but enough to guide me through. So I have done WBTB and when I´m ready to go back to sleep I play the recording while sitting down in bed. The recording helps me stay on top of the cycles and use the right timing, without messing up or worrying. That together with sitting up in bed helps me not to fall asleep. When I finish I just lay down with the goal of falling asleep while using a mantra "mind awake....body asleep". The first night I almost had a WILD, in just a few minutes I felt forcefully thrust out of body and then a dream formed. The second night I had a DILD. Surely liking this so far, never had such good results.