Quote Originally Posted by Kaan View Post
That's a pity that, for now, the Aurora seems less good at detecting rem than the REM dreamer, and don't do so much more things thant the RD does.
But the good point is if you implement the software you can make it more efficient.

I'm still with my two RemDreamers. Comfort is not an issue to me, I only wear it in the late morning.
I'm trying different settings in term of threshold of sensitivity and use short clues with flash and beep to explore the DEILD approach.

Ezzo, in what does your routine consist exactly when you just have been awoken by the aurora (or anything else) ?
I know you use SOBT (Raduga) and I had been using it with succes when I used supplements , but what are your 3 cycled visualisations?
(just by curiosity).
Hi Kaan, what I do is this... The alarm wakes me and i do my best to remain still. I then spend about 5 seconds doing nothing, thinking nothing as this pulls be back towards sleep (its called forced falling asleep) after about 5 seconds if nothing strange has happened I will then turn my attention to the natural hissing in my ears. Sometimes at this point the hissing will roar into an almighty noise. At this point I will simply get out of bed and find im in an 'obe'. What also might happen is that I experience vibrations over my upper body. If I feel vibrations them I will wait till they calm down and then once again get up into an obe.

If nothing happens with the hissing or theres no vibrations them i wil switch my awareness between 'looking at the back of my eyelids and listening to the hissing for about 5-10 seconds each until a minute has passed.

There no magic here! Its simply a way to keep my awareness alive as my body falls back to sleep.

I also believe that vibrations are a unique (and very common) sensation. Although no one knows what causes these I have a damn good theory which I believe is correct. As we go from awakefulness to rem sleep our body will become paralysed. I believe the vibrations felt is the release of a chemical from the brain into the body to creat the sleep paralysis (much like the release of adrenaline). Once the body has released enough chemicals to paralize the body then the body is asleep and a separation can happen

Many times I have tried to separate whilst the vibrations are actually happening (and this is the advice given in many forums) however if my theory is right then the body is not fully asleep and I can wake myself up whilst attempting to separate.

It makes much more sense to me to wait until the vibrations have stopped as at this point I would have descended past the 'chemical release' and into sleep paralysis and can now separate.

A lot of 'astral projectors' believe that the vibrations are something to do with the soul separating from the body but I dont believe any of that

What do you guys think?

Kaan - id suggest simply 'play dead' for a few seconds and then focus on something like your hearing. The reason I swap my awareness to another sensation is to stop myself falling asleep for real.

Also Kaan - I have great success with RemDreamer but then I started to worry that the sensor that is constantly reading your eye movement could be dangerous to the eye. I contacted some electricians on forums and they said they would never wear the device even though the makers of RemDreamer say its 100% safe - what do you think? For me the rem detection is much much much more reliable than Aurora at present

Ezzo