Thread: Talking to Subconscious

Hmm... I guess I don't understand. I've seen similar threads on communicating with your subconscious, and I've tried it before. Even got some responses. But I never know what to think. See, I'm a worrier. Always have been. Plus, I overthink things all the time. So it's no trouble for me to hold a two-sided conversation in my head. I used to do it all the time trying to plan out what I would say before I said it. I could always imagine the other person's response but of course, they never respond quite how I think they will... so I don't do it much any more. My point is, I never quite believe the answers I'm hearing could really be from my subconscious. It's so easy for me to hear what I want to hear, you know?

I see..., well when I talk to my sub-c like that I can usually guess it's him(Yes a he...atleast now XD) because he always talks shyly more shy than me, and most of the times refuses to answer something with a full answer untill I ask him to a few times and then comes the time when I asked him how he looked like, wasn't what I expected at all but he refused to give any detail on what colors and everything. So yah I notice it by differences in speaking and such, like saying what I would never think of and such, you should try asking some stuff you don't know a answer to at all? For example ask it's sky's color and ask about where it lives and is there a sun and a moon there if so how many, and such XD

And you could also ask it if it would please help you with some stuff you are doing like aura viewing, lucid dreaming and such and see what happens =/

My sub-c doesn't really wanna help, it's always busy with Noom or crying XD;

Hmm. Sounds like something I'll try some other time. Too busy with other stuff right now (Dream recall, energy work, visualization stuff... I'm so bad at visualizing! >.<). Given that I'm a shy person myself, I don't think that my subconscious would be even MORE shy... but who knows. xD

You don't have to visualise or anything, if it want's to show you stuff you visualisations will appear like POOF just so, you just have to relax a bit and not be focused on too much stuff and call out to is "Can you hear me" well that's what we all did at first anyways XD so it's nothing hard really, just ask a few times and when you hear a responce try to talk to that same voice, see what happens =/

Nah, what I meant was I'm trying to practice visualization as it's own, separate thing. Had nothing to do with the subconscious stuff, I've wanted to be better at visualization for a while. Well specifically, I've been looking at "Project Sanctuary" but that's probably an obscure one...

Late to the party... I find the subcs "talks" non-verbally, so it is best to get very attuned to listening to feelings (ie physical sensations in the chakra points) and hunches etc. Also you'd need to ask your subcs something specific if you want to hear it. So if there's a specific topic or question you want to answer, work with that. Also, it's easier to ask it yes-no questions. You will know you're getting close because a little physical sensation will appear. A great book to read about this is "Introducing NLP" by O'Connor

I have done this all my life. I don't understand how it could be difficult?
For instance, if I find myself unnaturally grumpy, I ask myself:
"What the heck is your problem today? You're getting on my last nerve."
And my brain fills in the reason. Usually, it just outright answers me, but sometimes images of my day and such flash first.

One of the biggest breakthroughs though was a couple decades ago. Between the ages of around 7 and 18 I couldn't have a rational discussion about abortion. I would ALWAYS break down in tears, get angry, shut down.
One day, it finally occurred to me that my reaction wasn't "normal" and I wondered why. For months, images would flash of me being outside a building playing in trees.
Eventually, I realized I was at a church I attended from 7-10. I thought on that some more, and very gradually, I finally remembered the scene in its entirety.
The adults were all in the "big church". Shades were drawn. The kids attended a Sunday school type meeting though it was the middle of the week and we finished sooner than the adults. I was curious and tried to peek in the window. All I could gather was they were watching a movie about something called "abortion". When the adults came out, all of them were teary eyes. Some were still outright crying.
Because of that, my subconscious concluded abortion is evil etc, etc.
While I still have strong feelings about the subject, I can at least now talk about it.
It's amazing what you can find out if you just push yourself.

Originally Posted by Zhaylin

I have done this all my life. I don't understand how it could be difficult?.

LOL then consider yourself lucky! I was not emotionally aware enough until recently - I didn't even know what I was feeling, let alone have a dialogue with it! So for me its "ZOMG you guys this is AMAZING!!!" and for you it's "um, isn't everyone that way?" That's actually the scary part - I now know that there are people walking around equally as numb as I was, but yet they still use the same words so it sounds like they're having the same experiences, but they're not! Anyway, I'm getting philosophical... thanks for replying

I did this once. I think I was high, but can't remember exactly. I just sat on my bed and thought of my subconscious as a person on the other side of my bed.
I can't even remember what we talked about now (it was quite some years ago), it was a very interesting experience though.

I'm the same as Singularity125, I over-think everything and have two sides (or more) conversations in my head all the time, all that stuff. But I'm fairly sure this was my subconscious.

That's interesting, Tommo.

Yeah, not only do I overthink everything by nature, I was kinda trained that way. I have Asperger's, which means I never naturally learned most social cues. I had to be carefully taught all that stuff, including carrying on a conversation. My memory from childhood isn't that great, but I do remember being taught "scripts" at some point to carry on conversations. Probably why I'm so prone to working out conversations in my head now. So it does make it hard to know whether I'm talking to the subconscious, or talking to myself.

Originally Posted by Singularity125

That's interesting, Tommo.

Yeah, not only do I overthink everything by nature, I was kinda trained that way. I have Asperger's, which means I never naturally learned most social cues. I had to be carefully taught all that stuff, including carrying on a conversation. My memory from childhood isn't that great, but I do remember being taught "scripts" at some point to carry on conversations. Probably why I'm so prone to working out conversations in my head now. So it does make it hard to know whether I'm talking to the subconscious, or talking to myself.

I never learned any of that stuff either. People always misinterpret my expressions. I think that's why.

I don't think I have Asperger's, but maybe not learning these social things like conversations etc. leads you to think everything over too much in your head.
I also think it had something to do with my mum always telling me to think before I speak.

You know i tried this whole subconcious thing and it doesnt work. As much as i believe it can work i never get anything out of it.

When i try to ask a question inside my head nothing happens, i really have to just think about the answer and then eventually give it myself. Never do i get an instant reply or some flashy vision whatever. Just me myself and i.

Isn't having a conversation with yourself the same as talking to your subconscious? Or are you concerned the dominant you is guiding the conversation?
I live in my head. Always have. I grew up in a somewhat abusive home, so my own brain is where I'm most comfortable. I also refuse to lie to myself. If I'm being a hypocrite about something, my brain nags me during conscious hours and in my dreams until I recognize that fact and acknowledge/change it. But I'm not happy just knowing I'm doing it, I also have to know WHY. So I have long conversations with myself to find the root of the problem. If I'm going down a wrong path (line of thinking) my brain continues to nag me until I find the correct one.

I also over think everything. I have detailed conversations between myself and the other person I want to speak with LONG before I ever open my mouth. My brain goes through every possible scenario the conversation could lead to and covers it, so I'm never at a loss. And I'm such a natural at reading body language (micro expressions etc) that I can usually lead conversations where I want them to go. I feel like a manipulator but it's how I'm wired and I rarely exploit others (my hubby and kids being the exception).

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Churrp.

I had some rather bizarre experiences around my 14th year. Somebody did a little induction on me w/r/t subconscious communication, to create an avatar of the subconscious in my head. I could probably find this thing again if somebody wanted it, but I forget it now.
Basically it resulted in me having a purple catdragon named Eraxis (or quickly Rax, he didn't like Eraxis) hanging around in my head. There'd be commentary, and later he'd wander out and around on the desks where I was doing school-work. One time (I live between two houses on the same train line) I'd forgotten something at one house, going to the other, and he kept poking at the door anxiously at the first house's station. I did not remember until we got to the next station, curses.

In terms of unlocking memories I don't think he was on the same level as some here, but I never intended for that.

Delusion? Yes. But a very edifying one. It's worth noting I was somewhat mentally ill at the time (I attempted suicide at one point) and there was a lot of inner critic voices going on. Rax on the other hand was very positive and encouraging (which may have helped me curb drastic depressive action for longer than I would've, though who can say), and I can pinpoint the happiest point of my life to his edgings, running around the suburbs on a summer's day; a glorious unified feeling I'd never felt before or since. So I don't know, there's something weird going on there.

(If I seem a bit open talking about the depression it's just the two stories are inextricably linked.)

After I got better he wasn't around so much, eventually went off. Today I wonder perhaps he was just a leftover imaginary friend that didn't get his chance the first time round.

Well I am pretty much having trouble talking to my sub-c because he seems to either be shy or just doesn't like me, I know how he looks as I "Saw" him 2-3 times in my dreams and such (Which he kinda made me forget ALOT expecially the part where I petted him, I remember him being soft and fluffy XD but I don't remember the details about it) but yeah whenever I try to talk to him he either ignores me now or just makes me talk to someone who's kinda acting stupid (As in not him XD) and if I accidentaly do something he doesn't like, he's not scared to show it XD (Usually it's scary and painfull a bit XD) but I don't mind I just wish to talk to him and finally get to know him, his name is "Yranul" yes...my "Name" backwards...he was named by his...well...Gf Noom XD and she made a vice-versa name for herself when she was asked so she just named Yranul like that. Thoo...Yranul can't spell his name and I don't think he likes it that much but has it cause Noom gave it to him XD.

Idk much about this all but basically he's in a form of a pitch black with black eyes Flareon and appears to like to keep to himself. As in rarely saying much about himself. (Before he was a Eevee before Noom changed to Vaporeon...yes I know it sounds silly lol XD). It's been quite a while since I talked to him, and even a longer while since I saw him. But I would really like to see him again...maybe this time talk to him and such, since usually he wouldn't really let me do much...even thoo I was lucid (Or he just made me forget?). And that's what I keep trying, no succes so far but I still feel his presence when he gives me those weird and sometimes scary dreams XD.

Originally Posted by Lunary

Well I am pretty much having trouble talking to my sub-c because he seems to either be shy or just doesn't like me, I know how he looks as I "Saw" him 2-3 times in my dreams and such (Which he kinda made me forget ALOT expecially the part where I petted him, I remember him being soft and fluffy XD but I don't remember the details about it) but yeah whenever I try to talk to him he either ignores me now or just makes me talk to someone who's kinda acting stupid (As in not him XD) and if I accidentaly do something he doesn't like, he's not scared to show it XD (Usually it's scary and painfull a bit XD) but I don't mind I just wish to talk to him and finally get to know him, his name is "Yranul" yes...my "Name" backwards...he was named by his...well...Gf Noom XD and she made a vice-versa name for herself when she was asked so she just named Yranul like that. Thoo...Yranul can't spell his name and I don't think he likes it that much but has it cause Noom gave it to him XD.

Idk much about this all but basically he's in a form of a pitch black with black eyes Flareon and appears to like to keep to himself. As in rarely saying much about himself. (Before he was a Eevee before Noom changed to Vaporeon...yes I know it sounds silly lol XD). It's been quite a while since I talked to him, and even a longer while since I saw him. But I would really like to see him again...maybe this time talk to him and such, since usually he wouldn't really let me do much...even thoo I was lucid (Or he just made me forget?). And that's what I keep trying, no succes so far but I still feel his presence when he gives me those weird and sometimes scary dreams XD.

I've got a bit of a hypothesis about this - to have a successful independent subconscious personality, there's got to be a bit of mental instability in one's head to start with. You don't get voices in your head if you're a fully integrated personality, after all. If you're too stable they don't tend to stick for there's nowhere to gain purchase.

I could just be talking shit though, for I've got very little to base this on (the fact that these things don't come easily to most, and the voices in mentally ill people's heads).

Originally Posted by Lseadragon

I've got a bit of a hypothesis about this - to have a successful independent subconscious personality, there's got to be a bit of mental instability in one's head to start with. You don't get voices in your head if you're a fully integrated personality, after all. If you're too stable they don't tend to stick for there's nowhere to gain purchase.

I could just be talking shit though, for I've got very little to base this on (the fact that these things don't come easily to most, and the voices in mentally ill people's heads).

Possibly. Then again, that's not really a bad thing. I wouldn't mind being somewhat crazy, being sane is pretty boring after all.

Originally Posted by Singularity125

Possibly. Then again, that's not really a bad thing. I wouldn't mind being somewhat crazy, being sane is pretty boring after all.

The definition of crazy is important to consider here. Being quirky and digressive and spontaneous is fun, yes; but being mentally ill is quite unfun after you can't concentrate for hours or threatening hallucinations start. You're in luck though; I don't think you need the latter for talking to your subconscious.

Ummm....He kinda does "Talk" to me but he's acting weird as in giving me meaningless messages, kinda like just messing around with my head, and if I ask something "Direct" as in "What do I have to do to talk to you?" he will make me lucid in a dream but make it so it appears real, paralised in bed, just woke up, can't get out of bed(Well I could but the tiredness is overwhelming) and then he does painfull WILD sensations, kinda like a "Punishment" the first time he did it was when I didn't "Listen" he was telling me trough a dream that someone was lying to me but I didn't get the message so after 4 months of that he started using it and I did find out then....but I don't like it ;w; I don't want him to hurt me I want him to talk to me XD. As for voices in my head I can get them from his side but they are usually acting kinda idiotic, like mocking me....I have no idea why he mocks me, all I want to do is be his friend ;w;

So yeah I don't really know if I have to be "Crazy" but honestly I've made a highly religious person who thinks sub-c is crap, I made him try it and he succeded in talking to his sub-c....boy did that change his point of view....But yah XD that's all.

Er, I always thought your sub-c was supposed to be nice to you... I wonder if maybe that's something or someone else. Then again your sub-c could use any number of different "faces" to talk to you, right? Just fire him and ask for a new one or something. xD

Talk to my subconscious? I was so pissed at my subconscious I wrote an open letter to it complete with pictures and plenty of exclamation marks.
http://www.dreamviews.com/f45/open-l...us-wtf-112347/

It certainly worked and I posted a reply about how I now feel about how the subconscious and the conscious are supposed to work together in dreaming and life.

Your subconscious is part of you so it sees, hears, and feels everything you do, so you don't need anything fancy but I would stress to make it truly important. If it is something silly its likely you wont get any kind of reply. What I did was dramatic and heartfelt which is why I probably got such a quick "reply".

Originally Posted by Caden

Talk to my subconscious? I was so pissed at my subconscious I wrote an open letter to it complete with pictures and plenty of exclamation marks.
http://www.dreamviews.com/f45/open-l...us-wtf-112347/

It certainly worked and I posted a reply about how I now feel about how the subconscious and the conscious are supposed to work together in dreaming and life.

Your subconscious is part of you so it sees, hears, and feels everything you do, so you don't need anything fancy but I would stress to make it truly important. If it is something silly its likely you wont get any kind of reply. What I did was dramatic and heartfelt which is why I probably got such a quick "reply".

Umm...to me that seems partly true but I won't force Yranul into being my slave or something o.o I just want him to be my friend, and as far as I am conserned (And him too) he is not just some "Part" of my body, he is a living being living somewhere else connected to me forever, he lives on some planet with 1 BIG sun (Bigger then ours) and when it's night then there is a smaller sun and the sky is turquose(It seems to be different in other areas) and sometimes he knows to accidentally make me imitate what he does (Yay for imitating him writing a message to Noom into a tree XDD) and before (When he was getting my help and wasn't really that "Privacy" needy) I could "Aura view" him as in, just close your eyes and you fly above him looking at what he does and follow him, they said that they see us like a aura ball then.

Atleast that's from my experiance. Also he said he "Accidentally" gave me bad dreams and that he's not mad at me nor hates me? Idk about that but I will choose to trust him XD.

Well if he's not part of you, he's definitely not your sub-c... not to discount your experience, but you don't want to confuse the two. He's more of a Spirit or Dream Guide, perhaps. Either way, it's interesting.

I am unsure if he is a spirit guide, I mean...as I said sometimes he accidentelly makes me imitate his moves, he can change my mood, feelings, he can scare me, hurt me, comfort me, give me images in my head (Thoo really rarely) and he says that he's my sub-c so...yeah and he also controls my dream, pretty much like a sub-c would. (And yes Yranul I know that blur at the couch was you that time D8 you didn't have to stare at me while you force me out of the lucid dream just as I got there LOL XD). Well yeah I know to call Yranul "Daddy" and Noom "Mommy" XD they don't mind XD probably cause we wouldn't mind either if we were in their place and they are...well...us XD

And another thing that makes me thing they are sub-c is the fact that they are a exprecion of you, thoo they kinda seem different and may act different and all, but when I think about it they just reflect what we would do. So that means...I don't understand myself o.o atleast that's what it would be because I don't understand why he's doing some things. But he's kinda acting like me thoo I still need to figure out. XD