Thread: The 2012 'Paradigm Shift.' Is it in its beginning stages?

Yeah cause no one has ever written their name on something they didn't build.

Did you ever wonder if maybe this one-upmanship was something practiced by a pre-egyptian society?

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

Yeah cause no one has ever written their name on something they didn't build.

So when you go do your hooligan thing and graffiti some guy's warehouse, do you write what team who built the warehouse you were a part of?

Feel free to point out any pre-Egyptian markings in the pyramids.

Did you ever wonder if maybe this one-upmanship was something practiced by a pre-egyptian society?

So why were early Egyptian pharaohs buried in tombs of increasing complexity? Why did Khufu get the awesome pyramid when his father was associated with this PoS:

Spoiler for Bent Pyramid:

Why was an earlier pharaoh buried in this obvious proto-pyramid:

Spoiler for Step Pyramid:

Why were the earliest Egyptian kings buried in simple mastasbas?

Spoiler for Mastaba:

Lastly, do you have a shred of physical evidence to indicate any sort of previous, more advanced civilization?

You have a good point, I was not aware the lineage coordinated with the evolution of building techniques.

But I still don't understand how the pyramid was built in 23 years. That would require a block to be placed every 2.5 minutes non-stop. We have dumpsites of similar size that take 12 years to fill with trucks dumping nonstop. And that's just dumping, but even that takes 3 minutes a load.

The step pyramid and bent pyramid look pretty damn good to me. Certainly more interesting
than the normal ("advanced") ones.

No 2012 paradigm shift will ever happen. This is because there is absolutely zero EVIDENCE that the earth or solar system will align or pass through anything. The precession of the Equinox is a VISUAL effect and solely comes from the earth point of view. It's visual, not physical. ALL of the 2012 human evolution consciousness information comes entirely from Hypnosis or channeled aliens. Both sources have been proven to be highly innacurate. if you remember a few years ago from channeled aliens predicting disclosure of aliens and a massive UFO landing, which NEVER HAPPENED.

Well the "alignment" is physical as well as visual. Because of the flat and circular nature of the Universe you can draw a line between earth, sun and the dark rift of the milky way (on the galactic equater). This alignment happening on the winter solstice only happens once every apx 26,000 years, thats why it was so special to the Mayans who are obsessed with cycles of time. It was the best day to embody the birth of a new sun, but youre right it has more to do with the movement of the earth than the sun.

Technically speaking, the earth does "align" with the sun and milky way once a year.

And if you want to talk about ancient cultures with architecture that defies logic, pumapunku!

Twice a year, actually. But it only happens on the solstice once every <13,000 years and only on winter solstice once every <26,000 years signifying a complete precession.

I will agree there's no astronomical evidence that this is significant other than the fact that it's extremely rare. But many cultures believe otherwise.

Asking what will happen in 2012 is the wrong question. Asking what changes WE CAN make and how we can shift our own paradigm is the right question. Whether or not one attributes paradigm shifts to celestial events or from human evolution doesn't mean that paradigms dont shift. Paradigms are shifting all the time and at greater exponential scales. BTW, the pyramids at Giza used to be covered with gold or copper and shined like a beacon according to ancient Greek sailors. Also BTW, Sphynx is way way older than the Pyramids, and just as interesting. Especially of interest regarding the Sphynx is what lays undiscovered beneath the front right paw.

I like. I would like to see the result of National Geographic's investigation of it. I never heard anything more from it. Or maybe it's just a persistant hippie rumor. Those Damned Hippies. Always conspiring to distort The Truth.

Maybe somebody can dig up a refernce. I remember it being a hall with 22 pictures each of which was the ancestor of a card of the major arcana.



Again, it's probably just stupid hippie rumors. Like the San Luis Valley flooding.

At any rate, Sphinx is clearly much older than Pyramids.

Whatever it is, it hasn't been discovered yet. So nobody alive has seen it. So nobody knows what it is since there are no accounts from the past of it. So any rumour of what it is is a rumour.

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

Twice a year, actually. But it only happens on the solstice once every <13,000 years and only on winter solstice once every <26,000 years signifying a complete precession.

I will agree there's no astronomical evidence that this is significant other than the fact that it's extremely rare. But many cultures believe otherwise.

It's as significant as the Earth completing another lap around the Sun on December 31st.

I think the rarity adds to the significance. But I guess 11-11-11 wasn't particularly significant as far as world events are concerned, despite the rarity of that date.

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

Asking what will happen in 2012 is the wrong question. Asking what changes WE CAN make and how we can shift our own paradigm is the right question. Whether or not one attributes paradigm shifts to celestial events or from human evolution doesn't mean that paradigms dont shift. Paradigms are shifting all the time and at greater exponential scales. BTW, the pyramids at Giza used to be covered with gold or copper and shined like a beacon according to ancient Greek sailors. Also BTW, Sphynx is way way older than the Pyramids, and just as interesting. Especially of interest regarding the Sphynx is what lays undiscovered beneath the front right paw.

The paradigm shift I am hoping for is Ron Paul getting elected President of the United States, which will result if a significantly more peaceful world and an end to the destabilize forces of the US military, as well as a shift away from the ever building up of massive government.

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

I think the rarity adds to the significance. But I guess 11-11-11 wasn't particularly significant as far as world events are concerned, despite the rarity of that date.

Is the lesson from this perhaps that whatever significance you add to events is completely orthogonal (hey, you're the one that knows what a dimension is) to any significance that they might "actually" have?

or am I just a troll?

Just to be clear, I think the significance that you all are referring to doesn't have anything to do with a full procession or 26,000 years; its that a culture that supposedly had a very limited knowledge of cosmology was able to accurately predict a solstice to the day thousands of years in the future. It gives a little credence to other 'predictions' they may or may not have made; evidence of which seems unfortunately lacking in this thread, and also unfortunately hard to search for online since it is not immediately distinguishable from completely fabricated new age bullshit. What we need on this forum is an archeologist.

Originally Posted by PhilosopherStoned

Is the lesson from this perhaps that whatever significance you add to events is completely orthogonal (hey, you're the one that knows what a dimension is) to any significance that they might "actually" have?

or am I just a troll?

I was perfectly willing to answer that question until I read the follow-up question. Why did you feel the need to patronize me?

Bump

Precession of the equinoxes started more than a century ago.
the axis of the earth moved from the place of pisces to Aquarius.
And this happens for long time now.And we stay the same.
Technological evolution only happened by few people who made progress and only.

So if you are going to be honest with yourself and the people around you,
you should realize that below the catch phrase "more people are getting spiritual and claiming their rights and happiness and love"

We are the same animals as long time ago.
You just need to open your eyes and look around.

Procession of the equinoxes has always been the case, not just in the last century...lol. And we don't stay the same. evolution is real. We were homo sapiens and now we are homo sapiens sapiens. Look at how cultural and traditional dogmas are breaking down.

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

Procession of the equinoxes has always been the case, not just in the last century...lol. And we don't stay the same. evolution is real. We were homo sapiens and now we are homo sapiens sapiens. Look at how cultural and traditional dogmas are breaking down.

Cultural and traditional dogmas are breaking down,only to be replaced by new ones better camouflaged.
Look better.

I can't find any reply for this thread that isn't this one, so insightful talk presented in the movie waking life:

(A very intense man is talking in front of a fish tank, gesturing wildly - Eamonn Healy, Chemistry professor at University of Texas at Austin)

"If we're looking at the highlights of human development, you have to look at the evolution of the organism and then at the development of its interaction with the environment. Evolution of the organism will begin with the evolution of life perceived through the hominid coming to the evolution of mankind. Neanderthal and Cro-Magnon man. Now, interestingly, what you're looking at here are three strings: biological, anthropological -- development of the cities -- and cultural, which is human expression.

Now, what you've seen here is the evolution of populations, not so much the evolution of individuals. And in addition, if you look at the time scales that are involved here -- two billion years for life, six million years for the hominid, 100,000 years for mankind as we know it -- you're beginning to see the telescoping nature of the evolutionary paradigm. And then when you get to agricultural, when you get to scientific revolution and industrial revolution, you're looking at 10,000 years, 400 years, 150 years. Uou're seeing a further telescoping of this evolutionary time. What that means is that as we go through the new evolution, it's gonna telescope to the point we should be able to see it manifest itself within our lifetime, within this generation.

The new evolution stems from information, and it stems from two types of information: digital and analog. The digital is artificial intelligence. The analog results from molecular biology, the cloning of the organism. And you knit the two together with neurobiology. Before on the old evolutionary paradigm, one would die and the other would grow and dominate. But under the new paradigm, they would exist as a mutually supportive, noncompetitive grouping. Okay, independent from the external.

And what is interesting here is that evolution now becomes an individually centered process, emanating from the needs and desires of the individual, and not an external process, a passive process where the individual is just at the whim of the collective. So, you produce a neo-human, okay, with a new individuality and a new consciousness. But that's only the beginning of the evolutionary cycle because as the next cycle proceeds, the input is now this new intelligence. As intelligence piles on intelligence, as ability piles on ability, the speed changes. Until what? Until we reach a crescendo in a way could be imagined as an enormous instantaneous fulfillment of human? human and neo-human potential. It could be something totally different. It could be the amplification of the individual, the multiplication of individual existences. Parallel existences now with the individual no longer restricted by time and space.

And the manifestations of this neo-human-type evolution, manifestations could be dramatically counter-intuitive. That's the interesting part. The old evolution is cold. It's sterile. It's efficient, okay? And its manifestations of those social adaptations. We're talking about parasitism, dominance, morality, okay? Uh, war, predation, these would be subject to de-emphasis. These will be subject to de-evolution. The new evolutionary paradigm will give us the human traits of truth, of loyalty, of justice, of freedom. These will be the manifestations of the new evolution. And that is what we would hope to see from this. That would be nice."

Haha, this thread, man.

Originally Posted by tsiouz

Cultural and traditional dogmas are breaking down,only to be replaced by new ones better camouflaged.
Look better.

I knew you would eventually agree with me. This is called evolution, no?

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

I knew you would eventually agree with me. This is called evolution, no?

NO.
Infact that is a complete resistance towards evolution.
even if improvement of a camouflage can require some,we missing any change.
Things are as they always were.Humanity moves in circles.
The only thing that has been changed is the speed of the events through technology.
And at the end of a circle no change occurs.
Time not always change things.
A crocodile and a shark is the same animal for 600 million years now.
Maybe a better camouflage but still nothing more than a crocodile.