Thread: The 2012 'Paradigm Shift.' Is it in its beginning stages?

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

I know what will be infuriating as all hell is when nothing happens and people start tripping out over the fact that "shit happens" during a whole year, and decide that this proves their point that something changed during 2012. Well no shit. Of course everything will change this year, that's how time works.

I know what will be silly as hell when there is global protests, global bankruptcy, global climate change, global food shortages, but nothing in your face and catastrophic happens on exactly december 21st and so people start tripping out about how nothing happened because there wasn't a clear event on the exact day.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

I know what will be silly as hell when there is global protests, global bankruptcy, global climate change, global food shortages, but nothing in your face and catastrophic happens on exactly december 21st and so people start tripping out about how nothing happened because there wasn't a clear event on the exact day.

Sounds like every other decade.

Derp o' the day.

Originally Posted by Carôusoul

I need to think of something super trolly to do to all the people in this forum and the world when nothing fucking happens.

Taking suggestions

I can only think of super trolly things before it happens. Like convincing a girl to have sex with you because you don't want to die a virgin.

Scientists have just discovered that the world is as it has been for thousands of years.

Originally Posted by Xaqaria

I know what will be silly as hell when there is global protests, global bankruptcy, global climate change, global food shortages, but nothing in your face and catastrophic happens on exactly december 21st and so people start tripping out about how nothing happened because there wasn't a clear event on the exact day.

I agree, nothing will happen and people will be like lolz see no great shift as if a shift is supposed to happen instantly. We're going through phenomenal changes and have been for the last 30 years or so.

But I'm still more or less putting my money on a scientific discovery that completely transforms our understanding and perception of reality. Or a volcano. Zombies would be cool, as well.

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

I agree, nothing will happen and people will be like lolz see no great shift as if a shift is supposed to happen instantly. We're going through phenomenal changes and have been for the last 30 years or so.

Like?

Internet and globalization.

Which will somehow culminate this year? And then what?

Er... no read the post that you quoted. What led you to believe I think anything is going to culminate this year? The 2012 date was determined mathematically but manifestation works through complexity.

Well this thread is about 2012... I agree that the internet and globalization are important advances, but are they just not part of normal human advancement which has been going on since we started making fire? How is it any different from the creation of writing, or the discovery of the New World by Europeans, or the invention of radio... How is it different from possible future advances, like virtual reality of the colonization of space? Why is this time period so special?

Because 2012.

Originally Posted by Spartiate

Well this thread is about 2012... I agree that the internet and globalization are important advances, but are they just not part of normal human advancement which has been going on since we started making fire? How is it any different from the creation of writing, or the discovery of the New World by Europeans, or the invention of radio... How is it different from possible future advances, like virtual reality of the colonization of space? Why is this time period so special?

I would distinguish our current trend of globalization from previous colonization in that we are slowly unifying into one single society during this period. This is a big deal, to me. As far as comparing inventions, I'm not going to claim the internet is more important than fire. But the internet has been a tremendous aid in the new globalization trend.

And again, 2012 is a mathematically determined date, the universe obeys the law of complexity meaning events cannot be perfectly predicted, not even with math. All you can do is separate the peaks from the valleys. We're at a peak right now.

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

And again, 2012 is a mathematically determined date, the universe obeys the law of complexity meaning events cannot be perfectly predicted, not even with math. All you can do is separate the peaks from the valleys. We're at a peak right now.

Where are you getting this from?

Getting what from, specifically? You can look up Complexity and Consonance on wikipedia.

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

And again, 2012 is a mathematically determined date

That.

Mayan prophecy - 12/21/2012 - The Skeptic's Dictionary - Skepdic.com

Summarize in one sentence how 2012 is a mathematically significant year with respect to current events please.

When did I say that? I simply said the date was determined mathematically based on our Galactic Cycle. It doesn't need to have anything to do with current events. Math gave us the date, if there is something significant tied to this date it would not happen on the mathematically proposed time but would manifest through Complexity and therefore would not be perfectly predictable.

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

When did I say that? I simply said the date was determined mathematically based on our Galactic Cycle. It doesn't need to have anything to do with current events. Math gave us the date, if there is something significant tied to this date it would not happen on the mathematically proposed time but would manifest through Complexity and therefore would not be perfectly predictable.

What the hell are you talking about?

The galactic cycle... you know, the cycle of the galaxy. It's some kind of event or phenomenon. Which does stuff. Via a mechanism.

Originally Posted by Omnis Dei

When did I say that? I simply said the date was determined mathematically based on our Galactic Cycle. It doesn't need to have anything to do with current events. Math gave us the date, if there is something significant tied to this date it would not happen on the mathematically proposed time but would manifest through Complexity and therefore would not be perfectly predictable.

This is nothing more than astrology, although it is BAD astrology, since it's not actually based on anything "galactic". Precession of the equinox is NOT a galactic phenomenon, it is planetary. It's just the earth's axis wobbling like a giant, slow spinning top.

We already explained this to him; he took it as proof that the opposite was true.

Are you guys seriously still drumming this shit up? Do I need to find the quote again?

The equinox is a time of the year where our planetary position in the solar system is the same. This enables us to observe our position in the Galaxy and how it has changed since the last Equinox. I don't see how this is so difficult to understand.

It is astronomy. The predictions may be astrology but I wasn't talking about that. I was talking about a mathematically determined Galactic Cycle which the Mayans would measure on the Equinox.