Thread: Pyrokinesis: Possible or impossible?

Originally Posted by snoop

What other sense is there? Please explain because I'm not sure I understand.

Oh, and my contribution to the thread: pyrokinesis is impossible.

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

Originally Posted by Will1

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Rita Mae Brown

Fixed.

There have been literally thousands of experiments dealing with psi. None have ever yielded anything worth noting. If you are so adamant about the possibility of psychokinesis, then why are you wasting your time arguing with us rather than proving us wrong through experimentation?

Originally Posted by LucidJuggalo

Meditate on that question sufficiently and you shall find enlightenment.

Meditation is irrelevant; humans are far from equal, end of story.

Originally Posted by LucidJuggalo

Nothing is impossible. Everything is possible. Technology and what we know, however, needs to advance first.

I'll put it this way: 1000 years back, the thought of a human flying would have been considered physically impossible, exactly the same way as what you're saying about pyrokinesis. They had insufficient technology and knowledge to assume otherwise. However, we're now sending people flying up to space. What does that tell us? It tells us that anything is possible once you find all the pieces to the puzzle. Knowledge is infinite. Possibilities are infinite. There is no end to what humans can accomplish.

Tele/pyrokinesis also would have sounded ridiculous 1000 years ago, and it still does. Just because a few things that were impossible in the past are possible today does not mean that everything that is impossible will eventually be possible in the future. There's absolutely zero logic to support this.

Just because there is a void of knowledge in a particular area, in this case knowledge of future advances, does not mean we can fill in that void with random speculations. It's fine to think of random 'what if' statements and meditate on them to see what truth they hold, however it is completely unhealthy to invent reasons why something you want to believe in could exist regardless of rationality.

EDIT:

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

This is exactly how you should feel the next time you try to move something with your mind and nothing happens.

Originally Posted by A Roxxor

Fixed.

There have been literally thousands of experiments dealing with psi. None have ever yielded anything worth noting. If you are so adamant about the possibility of psychokinesis, then why are you wasting your time arguing with us rather than proving us wrong through experimentation?

And I recall experimentation clearly stating that we use only a small fragment of our brain. You are under no inclination to deny the possibility of things such as psychokinesis, when we don't even know the true potential of the brain.

Originally Posted by LikesToTrip

Tele/pyrokinesis also would have sounded ridiculous 1000 years ago, and it still does. Just because a few things that were impossible in the past are possible today does not mean that everything that is impossible will eventually be possible in the future. There's absolutely zero logic to support this.

Correction: We do not understand the logic. It is an area far too advanced.

Edit: There is absolutely no logic to support that that isn't possible in the future, either.
All great feats of knowledge are accomplished by first opening the mind. I suggest that you take note of this, as yours seems to be closed off. That is not designed to be insulting either, I'm merely stating.

"Obvious trolls are obvious" - LucidJuggalo

I already told you all, we're bored with this argument and the only thing left to be said is...
"Don't beat a dead horse"




Apparently none of you picked up on the emoticons meaning.

Anything else said here will be considered irrelevant and will get my pity, continue with caution.

Originally Posted by LikesToTrip

Meditation is irrelevant; humans are far from equal, end of story.

You both are talking about a diferent thing.

LikeToTrip is right in the sense that we human beings have chose to live our lives diferently, we think diferent, look diferent, have diferent oportunities, intelligence.

LucidJuggalo is talking about what human beings really are light, feelings, a sentient being with the capacity to love, in that sense we're all equal in escense, just taking diferent desitions.

Originally Posted by LucidJuggalo

And I recall experimentation clearly stating that we use only a small fragment of our brain. You are under no inclination to deny the possibility of things such as psychokinesis, when we don't even know the true potential of the brain.

I can't believe you're still bringing this up....
Neuroscience For Kids - 10% of the Brain Myth
There's an article written for kids, hopefully you can understand it.

Originally Posted by LucidJuggalo

Edit: There is absolutely no logic to support that that isn't possible in the future, either.

Originally Posted by LikesToTrip

Just because there is a void of knowledge in a particular area, in this case knowledge of future advances, does not mean we can fill in that void with random speculations. It's fine to think of random 'what if' statements and meditate on them to see what truth they hold, however it is completely unhealthy to invent reasons why something you want to believe in could exist regardless of rationality.

I bet you fit right in in the juggalo fam.

Originally Posted by mowglycdb

You both are talking about a diferent thing.

LikeToTrip is right in the sense that we human beings have chose to live our lives diferently, we think diferent, look diferent, have diferent oportunities, intelligence.

LucidJuggalo is talking about what human beings really are light, feelings, a sentient being with the capacity to love, in that sense we're all equal in escense, just taking diferent desitions.

Thank you. At least somebody here get's what I mean.

Originally Posted by LikesToTrip

I bet you fit right in in the juggalo fam.

This is now attacking personal areas. If this continues, I will not hesitate to contact those in charge of DV. Grow up.

Originally Posted by LikesToTrip

I can't believe you're still bringing this up....
Neuroscience For Kids - 10% of the Brain Myth
There's an article written for kids, hopefully you can understand it.

Stop trolling with something you don't understand.

"Think of it this way. Let’s say your brain is a stereo. When you are using your stereo you are using 100% of it. Here is the x factor. If the volume knob is set at say a 2 level then you are not getting the same usage when compared to turning the volume knob to 8 or 10."

- scienceray.com/biology/human-biology/how-much-brain-do-we-use/

Kthnx, or would you like me to get you a kiddy article?

Originally Posted by LikesToTrip

Just because there is a void of knowledge in a particular area, in this case knowledge of future advances, does not mean we can fill in that void with random speculations. It's fine to think of random 'what if' statements and meditate on them to see what truth they hold, however it is completely unhealthy to invent reasons why something you want to believe in could exist regardless of rationality.

Originally Posted by LucidJuggalo

On the contrary, everything we know today relies on a different perception of things which somebody brought forward. Different perceptions are brought into the world once a new person is born. Unless humans were to suddenly become unable to reproduce (which doesn't look likely), that means that mankind will continually grow in possibilities and knowledge. This continual growth means infinite perceptions, which means infinite possibilities, and since perceptions govern to-date knowledge, that means knowledge is also infinite.

I rest my case.

Originally Posted by LucidJuggalo

Thank you. At least somebody here get's what I mean.

well even though it can end up in senseless debating you learn how to express your ideas in a better way when debating, that's a pro!. I have problems expressing my ideas atleast.

I don't know if LikeToTrip has problems with your believes or your reasonning, seems like he's getting tired , can you answer this to me LikeToTrip? do you have a problem with what LucidJuggalo believes, or how he reasons?

Originally Posted by mowglycdb

well even though it can end up in senseless debating you learn how to express your ideas in a better way when debating, that's a pro!. I have problems expressing my ideas atleast.

I don't know if LikeToTrip has problems with your believes or your reasonning, seems like he's getting tired , can you answer this to me LikeToTrip? do you have a problem with what LucidJuggalo believes, or how he reasons?

It's apparent to me that he does. I had a feeling this was being fronted purely because of my way of life. And, quite frankly, that just makes me laugh. It's good to know I have something which allows me not to judge others senselessly. It's what's going to help me get somewhere in life.

Edit: And help me get closer to the goal of pyrokinesis. If I don't manage it in this life, I certainly will in the next.

Question, why do you ask if pyrokinesis is possible/impossible if you already believe/know it is possible and won't accept the ideas of anyone else and will just insult them if they disagree?

Originally Posted by LucidJuggalo

It's apparent to me that he does. I had a feeling this was being fronted purely because of my way of life. And, quite frankly, that just makes me laugh. It's good to know I have something which allows me not to judge others senselessly. It's what's going to help me get somewhere in life.

Well I'd recommened you to relax a bit, you seem pretty worked up. I think you feel you're a victim in this, that's why you're fighting back, sometimes when they bother a lot yes it can be funny, but it's more about singing haters gonna hate and not worry or take it personally, you can't let him dig that deep in you, you controll to where his words affect you.

Mmm LikesToTrip can be a successful person, sometimes people just enjoy trolling and sometimes they're very smart, you never know till you meet them in person.

Originally Posted by Will1

Stop trolling with something you don't understand.

"Think of it this way. Let’s say your brain is a stereo. When you are using your stereo you are using 100% of it. Here is the x factor. If the volume knob is set at say a 2 level then you are not getting the same usage when compared to turning the volume knob to 8 or 10."

- scienceray.com/biology/human-biology/how-much-brain-do-we-use/

Kthnx, or would you like me to get you a kiddy article?

From said article:

There is no physical data to determine in tangible evidence the amount of usage the human brain has.

But.... then how could they determine we aren't operating at full capacity if there isn't a way to test it?
The article then goes on to explain that savants are able to function at a much higher level than average people. However, This does not prove that average people can function at a higher level.
I would like you to find me a kiddy article, it would probably be much more informative than this laughable reference.

Originally Posted by LucidJuggalo

It's apparent to me that he does. I had a feeling this was being fronted purely because of my way of life. And, quite frankly, that just makes me laugh. It's good to know I have something which allows me not to judge others senselessly. It's what's going to help me get somewhere in life.

Edit: And help me get closer to the goal of pyrokinesis. If I don't manage it in this life, I certainly will in the next.

I really enjoyed this post.

Originally Posted by Hukif

Question, why do you ask if pyrokinesis is possible/impossible if you already believe/know it is possible and won't accept the ideas of anyone else and will just insult them if they disagree?

If you're referring to LikeToTrip, I clearly stated I wasn't being offensive. Then he made a personal attack on me, and I took offence. My response wasn't an insult, it was a blunt statement. Judging others harshly for no reason will not get you anywhere in the long run.

Plus, others are free to say their thing if they don't believe in it. There's nothing wrong with that. However, I shall then defend my beliefs in response. That is the whole point of a debate.

Originally Posted by LikesToTrip

I really enjoyed this post.

And I really enjoyed reporting you.

Originally Posted by LucidJuggalo

And I really enjoyed reporting you.

Originally Posted by LucidJuggalo

If you're referring to LikeToTrip, I clearly stated I wasn't being offensive. Then he made a personal attack on me, and I took offence. My response wasn't an insult, it was a blunt statement. Judging others harshly for no reason will not get you anywhere in the long run.

Plus, others are free to say their thing if they don't believe in it. There's nothing wrong with that. However, I shall then defend my beliefs in response. That is the whole point of a debate.

Yeah, like assuming I was talking about LikesToTrip, I was refering more when you decided to agree with the insulting responses Will1 was doing to others, for example snoop. You also said that "Nothing is impossible" that statemen itself could prove you wrong, since nothing is impossible, the "possibility that in this universe, pyrokinesis is impossible" is also possible.

Originally Posted by Hukif

Yeah, like assuming I was talking about LikesToTrip, I was refering more when you decided to agree with the insulting responses Will1 was doing to others, for example snoop. You also said that "Nothing is impossible" that statemen itself could prove you wrong, since nothing is impossible, the "possibility that in this universe, pyrokinesis is impossible" is also possible.

Its a paradox, don't think too hard, you'll get nowhere.

Originally Posted by LikesToTrip

From said article:

But.... then how could they determine we aren't operating at full capacity if there isn't a way to test it?
The article then goes on to explain that savants are able to function at a much higher level than average people. However, This does not prove that average people can function at a higher level.
I would like you to find me a kiddy article, it would probably be much more informative than this laughable reference.

Didn't you just prove yourself wrong?

Originally Posted by LikesToTrip

I really enjoyed this post.

If you continue your fail trolling I'm going to teach you how it feels to get trolled. I can do it a lot better than your failed attempts, and I'd like you to know I specialize in computer security. Good game, and I don't bluff.

Originally Posted by LikesToTrip

So that's what your owned face looks like.

Originally Posted by Will1

Its a paradox, don't think too hard, you'll get nowhere.

Tell that to LucidJuggalo, because my example was for sure not a paradox, it is a possible event in this universe not everywhere, so the "it being impossible" doesn't really apply to it. That is, if we follow the logic of "nothing is impossible".

Originally Posted by Hukif

Tell that to LucidJuggalo, because my example was for sure not a paradox, it is a possible event in this universe not everywhere, so the "it being impossible" doesn't really apply to it. That is, if we follow the logic of "nothing is impossible".

Well you see... According to quantum physics everything is happening all the time, and the only way that is possible is if there are multiple universes. A multiverse, if you will. Meaning everything is possible because there is a universe for everything. (I think our goal should be learning to 'slide' from universe to universe.)

It's the only way everything is possible. (Which it is.) Though the results of the hadron collider has yet to be published, so it can't be proven (yet.)

Originally Posted by Will1

Didn't you just prove yourself wrong?

How??

Originally Posted by Will1

If you continue your fail trolling I'm going to teach you how it feels to get trolled. I can do it a lot better than your failed attempts, and I'd like you to know I specialize in computer security. Good game, and I don't bluff.

I'm not trolling, I'm stating my honest opinion. If you would like to attempt to troll me by all means, make my day. And your attempt at a threat was quiet humorous.

Originally Posted by Will1

So that's what your owned face looks like.

I really enjoyed this post <- I will wear my 'owned face' proudly

Yeah, so it being impossible in this universe is still a possibility. "This universe" and not "everywhere" is the important part.

It isn't trolling to answer the question presented in the title of the thread, nor is it trolling to ask those who believe pyrokinesis is possible to back up their statements with a credible source--that's common sense. What is trolling, however, are comments designed to insult others and incite anger. Comments like this:

Originally Posted by Will1

Kthnx, or would you like me to get you a kiddy article?

or this

Originally Posted by Will1

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." - Albert Einstein

or this

Originally Posted by Will1

I would, but I'm bored with the conversation due to you taking cheap shots like few worded posts used to provoke flame wars between all of us.

*Yawn*

Originally Posted by Will1

If so, thanks a bunch! If not, just shut up because your typing style is boring me,

Originally Posted by Will1

Its a paradox, don't think too hard, you'll get nowhere.

Originally Posted by Will1

If you continue your fail trolling I'm going to teach you how it feels to get trolled. I can do it a lot better than your failed attempts, and I'd like you to know I specialize in computer security.

Originally Posted by Will1

So that's what your owned face looks like.

You even manged to sneak a threat in there, nice one.