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    Thread: New member and need help with entering sleep paralysis

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      New member and need help with entering sleep paralysis

      Hey guys, so to start off, yes, I have searched around the forum, and I haven't found an answer to this predicament.

      Now, I am actually posting this right now on behalf of my friend who is a tad bit nervous to forums and whatnot. He hasn't exactly had very good experiences in the past, so please do try to show him how welcoming people can actually be on these things. He's going to post using this account from now on, but I just wanted to help him get started off.
      So, in case we get a reply before he posts in more detail about his predicament, he's essentially trying to try out Sleep paralysis. He's aware of the possible fears and whatnot (I had entered it once before and have told him a bit about it, however you guys look to be the professionals here), and despite those reasons, he is still really curious to try it (lucid dreaming too, but he wants to do this first as it is easier).

      So, his apparent predicament from what I get is that he did get really close a few nights ago, but now, whenever he lies on his back his right arm I believe can't stay straight. it keeps muscle spasming and wants to bend, and he had apparently tried to deal with it numerous occasions, one time for an hour straight. This of course keeps his body from falling asleep, so we were hoping that we could get some help or someone to talk to that could help fix or remedy this problem.

      So, anyways, thanks for taking the time to read this, and I am going to let my buddy take over now. I'm not the paranoid mom that's all "oh, please baby him", but just try to show him that not everyone is judgmental on these things and that people can act like adults.

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      Hello and welcome to Dream Views. These two links below will help you a lot. I highly recommend reading them because they will explain just about everything you need to know about sleep paralysis.

      http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...mystified.html

      http://www.dreamviews.com/wake-initi...explained.html

      I definitely would not say that inducing sleep paralysis is easier than inducing a lucid dream. I actually think it is highly unlikely that you will be able to induce true sleep paralysis unless you have the disorder associated with it. I'm not going to call it impossible, but very unlikely to work. However, you may be able to induce hypnagogic or hypnopompic hallucinations and sensory deprivation, which is probably what you were really aiming for.
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      You are not judged indeed and there is amazing people here to help you out buddy

      I'll be happy to answer questions about Sleep Paralysis, just post them here!

      This is indeed a great place to develop your dreaming skills and meet some awesome people! And whatever dream-goals you have, you will accomplish them!

      In addition from what Oreo shared, make sure to check out the Induction Methods and Techniques as it will help you a ton It also talks about Sleep Paralysis.

      Also, do not miss the following!

      Attaining Lucidity ---------------> Many techniques here as well as users sharing their own experience.

      Tasks of the Month & Year --------------> This will give you a great motivation to lucid dream as these tasks are fun and gives you a reward for accomplishing them (and that will be an extra goal to help yourself to lucid dream!)

      Best luck and Welcome to DVs!
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      So well, to explain my problem, when i try to lie down on my back with my arms straight, my left arm automaticly bends or has muscle spasms, so it just wakes my body up again, also when i actually get near the final stages the sound just scares me, as it has buggered up my first try, the mechanical noise was just so loud and sudden that i just shocked awake. how can i fix this, or are there any easier ways to get in an lucid dream?
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      Well, a good way to continue would be to read around the forum and become more familiar with lucid dreaming. Learn some lucid dreaming induction techniques to practice and start a dream journal. You know, just the act of actively reading and discussing lucid dreaming can be enough to induce it sometimes. It really helps a lot to just spend time exploring and learning about the subject.

      As Percy said, if you have any more questions, feel free to ask and we will try our best to answer.
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      well i prefer having specific topics instantly, thats why i dont like forums that much, because they sometimes just dont contain what i want. and i already made a dream journal, and also had a sort of lucid dream, i at least got awereness but it instantly woke me up after i asked myself if i was dreaming.

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      If you don't like forums, we do have an irc server where you can chat with other DV memberes in real time. I actually don't like communicating with forums much myself, so I just sit in the chat rooms all day. If you're interested, you can connect to the chat here Dreamviews IRC chat Also, do not get discouraged if you enter the chat and no one is talking. Some times of the day are just more active than others.
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      Well, im more of an one on one person, like with Skype, as it wont get mixed up as easy then, but ill just stick with this forum then, so my questions?

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      Quote Originally Posted by KerbalPlayer View Post
      So well, to explain my problem, when i try to lie down on my back with my arms straight, my left arm automaticly bends or has muscle spasms, so it just wakes my body up again, also when i actually get near the final stages the sound just scares me, as it has buggered up my first try, the mechanical noise was just so loud and sudden that i just shocked awake. how can i fix this, or are there any easier ways to get in an lucid dream?
      I'm really not sure how to correct this issue. It sounds like you're trying to use a WILD technique, which in my personal opinion is difficult and complicated. There are many other alternative ways to entering a lucid dream. You could try DILD or MILD techniques, which I believe to be easier. There isn't truly an "easiest" or "hardest" technique however. Different people are better at certain things and worse at others. The best thing you can do is to learn about many different techniques and then practice with these techniques individually. You'll want to experiment with the techniques and modify them to figure out what does and does not work for you. If you work hard at it and do it right, you can create the technique that is perfect for you.
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      Why do you want your arm straight? if someone says it should be, maybe you can just modify that part of it. I do not know how likely inducing SP is, but try it if you want with your arms casually bent.

      As far as being shocked awake, just keep trying. The hallucinations will be less shocking after awhile.
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      The reason why i do SP is because the first times i tried, it had the most effects, sped up heart beat, heavy limbs, etc with other techniques it dident work or i at least dont feel in control, as with SP you control it from the start, but with DILD you need to gain conciousness in the dream first, which is pretty hard,

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      SP is a medical disorder. It's highly unlikely you will be able to induce it, since it's something our body initiates after we start dreaming, so we don't act out our dreams. While it is possible to experience SP when waking up or falling asleep, it is not part of lucid dreaming process, as again, it's an involuntary event initiated by our body.

      If you by any chance ever experience SP, it will be when you are transitioning into a LD, or you have just entered one. By then though you will not care about being or not being in SP, because you will be lucid. If you ever find yourself in SP when waking up from a dream, you can use it to enter LD, but that is for later, after some experience.

      Out of my hundreds of WILDing attempts, I have experienced SP only once, and that was actually between 2 lucid dreams, not even when entering the first one. So if you are aiming for SP, you will miss tons of opportunities for a LD, while waiting for something that you may never experience.

      You can induce a LD by practicing mental preparation, reality checks, mantras, awareness, and everything else that you will find in DILD, MILD and WILD tutorials.

      What you are describing are signs of your body falling asleep, as Oreo correctly pointed out. Btw, Oreo pointed out everything correctly. Dream journal, SP, hallucinations, and most importantly, the part about reading around. If you really like lucid dreaming, then reading around the forum should not be a problem. It helps with setting your intent, getting motivated, excited, not to mention learning how to.

      LDing is not just few steps someone can follow and be lucid. It's more of an art, than science.

      I would also recommend to start out with DILD. Not because it's easier than WILD. But because it will teach you mental preparation, awareness, reality checks, mantras... all that you need for other techniques as well.

      Good luck and please ask anything you need.

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      So i started a DJ a while ago, but the problem is I need to go to school, and on weekends i have the problem that i just cant get out of bed, so i mostly forget my dreams before i can reach my laptop, which is in my game room on weekends, and in my school bag on school days, are there any techniques to remember dreams for longer periods of times? and about reality checks, the thing is, they are kinda weird to other people, as it is weird to see someone trying to push their hand trough a door every time they open a door, or someone putting their fingers up their nose to check if they can or cant breathe, so are there any unnoticable techniques?

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      Yes, there are answers to everything you asking. But they are not 1-2 sentence asnwers. There is a whole philosophy behind everything. Hence the need to read the tutorials. Not just one, not just two, but all you can find. Why? Because LDing is an art. What will work for one, will not work for others, and vice versa. You need to read everything, tutorials and peoples replies to them and you need to try them.

      You should start trying the basics first. For a few days and weeks at least, even months, depending on if you get a success. Only then you should alter something, and keep doing so, till something works. But usually basics work for most people. Later we all add or change something in the process, so it works best for us.

      There are no simple answers. You really have to do your homework and read.

      I really recommend to start with DILD tutorial and those that you need for a DILD:

      http://www.dreamviews.com/induction-...cid-dream.html
      http://www.dreamviews.com/induction-...hecks-rcs.html
      http://www.dreamviews.com/dild/13212...ods-dilds.html

      In the last link, you will find all the basics you need to get started. After you try it, you can read around some more and expand your knowledge on mantras, awareness, and everything else.

      Very good explanation of awareness is in this part of a WILD tutorial:
      http://www.dreamviews.com/wild/13181...prep-part.html

      Also, we have classes in our DV Academy http://www.dreamviews.com/current-courses/

      And how to recall dreams better and everything around it: http://www.dreamviews.com/dream-signs-recall/
      Briefly: Don't move when waking up, think back on your dreams till you can recall, retell them in your mind with words to imprint them on your waking time memory, then write them down. If you can't reach laptop, use good old paper.

      After you read them and something needs clarification, please ask in those threads, or here, and we will be happy to help. But we can't do your homework for you, simply because you will not benefit from it.

      I really hope you will give this a try, as rewards are out of this world extraordinary. Happy dreams

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      Had my first lucid dream! WHOOOO!
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      Quote Originally Posted by KerbalPlayer View Post
      Had my first lucid dream! WHOOOO!
      Yeah CONGRATS!! Post it in your DJ if you want and we can read/+like/comment/highfive/etc
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      Very nice!!!

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