Finally getting around to responses, old and new. I meant to post it last night but I ended up passing out at my computer from exhaustion....
Originally Posted by NewArtemis
Aly: My friendly conversations go like this: "I want to murder your whole family." Nah, not really. But with a sense of humor like that it's no wonder I can't make friends. In truth I just talk about random stuff, ask them questions about what they're interested in, all that. It's really not the conversations that are bad, it's that it never progresses to hanging out or doing anything together. Kind of sticks at "good acquaintance". I'd like to have somebody other than my husband to hang out and talk with, not just chat.
Gotcha, well that's odd.... Maybe I'd have to watch one of your actual conversations actually play out to get a better grasp on it. Heh.... Maybe if you're going to see someone again, go look into whatever it is that they said they were interested in and see if there's some kind of event related to it in your area, and invite them to it?
Originally Posted by Zhaylin
Aly, almost all of my dreams are incredibly vivid. It's been a blessing and a curse my whole life. The weird thing about the 2 that woke me was that they were nothing special. They were emotionally intense (nearly the only type of dream I consider a nightmare), but not THAT intense!!
My hubby hates to hear my dreams, lol, because he thinks they're psychotic or something. If I'm dreaming about being someone else, more than half the time I'm some random guy. When I was younger, again, I was almost always some guy. Maybe this means I'm becoming more comfortable with being myself as I get older Or I'm losing my imagination
More often than not though, I DC bounce. I'm a lot like a spirit when I dream. I'll see the dream through the eyes of various DC's. That makes war dreams really interesting because I'll jump to people on both sides of the battle to feel what's driving them.
And yet it all seems completely rational at the time and I almost never become lucid
I always wait for someone to comment on the "trying to" catch a cold bit It's not that I WANT to, but it seems inevitable lol
Those dreams sounds way more interesting than mine, which are often about school or work and usually from my own perspective. Nothing incredible new or exciting there, just the occasionally rather odd or disturbing random dream thing....
I don't think they're psychotic, I'm jealous!
And that makes sense about trying to catch a cold, hahaha. X)
Originally Posted by tommo
Yeah that is very similar to my experience. I think it messes with short-term memory so much that you can't even tell what is currently happening, and everything becomes an uncertain mesh of short and long term memory and present, but it's really none of them, and you're trying to figure it out logically but it just doesn't work.
Sounds about right.... I really wish I could get that high again lol. I sort of wish after that experience I had just put down the weed and said "Alright, I'm doing this once every six months so it never changes."
Sort of. >_>
Originally Posted by tommo
Please post it when you do. I like her too. Well, some of her songs anyway. And she's incredibly beautiful.
Mm, I think the song I was listening to at the time was this one:
My current favorite though is this one:
And she is beautiful, she's one of my celebrity crushes at the moment hehe....
Originally Posted by tommo
LSZ (disclaimer: I know nothing about either of them, but LSZ sounds cool).
One of my friends had this same response. I'm thinking LSZ too because it has a known receptor binding profile, but AL-LAD does sound really cool too.... (Not as cool at ETH-LAD though, damn RC chemists!)
Both LSZ and AL-LAD are supposed to be a bit more lucid than LSD at regular doses, but LSZ is said to be less visual while AL-LAD is more visual. On the other hand, I've heard of LSZ being redeemed by having *some* level of mindfuck at higher doses, which I haven't heard so much from AL-LAD but I do here that it gains more of an LSD-like sparkle at higher doses. One major difference to consider (given my drug habits) is that they both dose around the same per hit (150 micrograms) but so far the highest safe dose of LSZ I'm aware of being taken is 1050 mcg while for AL-LAD it's 2200 mcg. Just something to keep in mind when planning for my future.... Another thing though is that I can easily get lots of LSZ right now while AL-LAD is limited....
Originally Posted by Athylus
Been away for a while so idk what I missed, but lol seriously WTF kinda shit do you people smoke? Alyzarin and Tommo I have smoked a thousand joints and I've never experienced things like being able to see through my eyes *jelly*
For me it was sour diesel. It was my second time using a bong and only like second week of smoking or so. Never got remotely that high again.
Originally Posted by Athylus
Ooh must've read it wrong! Anyway those drugs sound really cool, but I'm currently not ready yet to take any drugs for now. Maybe when I've been clean from weed for 3 months and it's summer holidays I will take some shrooms. We should space together lol
They are really cool, and I think you would love mushrooms. Hehe, are you coming stateside some time soon? ;D
Originally Posted by NewArtemis
And I was also wondering if any of you have had experience with acid, and if so, can you tell me what it's like? One guy told me that it's like removing your ego (as in Freud's "ego"), so any problems you have aren't really going to be moderated so you have to face them instead.
What he's referring to is usually called ego loss or ego death. Traditional psychedelics (including LSD) tend to cause it on this spectrum... from lowest level to highest level, with the dose you take, personal sensitivity, environment, and other factors contributing to just how high on the spectrum you go per trip (e.g., you might only reach the first level if you don't dose high): first memory and cognitive functions become faulty and time seems extremely dilated, then your long-term memory becomes weaker and weaker until it totally vanishes, then short-term memory starts to completely vanish as well, and after that point your cognitive processes are so inhibited and you're so detached from your schema that you're reduced to basically an infantile state where everything is completely new and foreign to you like you're experiencing it for the first time and you can't correctly identity or differentiate anything, including yourself from your environment, and higher than that you no longer even exist, everything in "your" reality is just sensory information (usually hallucinations, but sometimes just a void) floating by, and beyond that is just unconsciousness, total blackout. Technically, this last phase is the only "true" ego death, in the sense that ego in this case is related to the self, so the only state in which the self is truly gone is during that nothingness, like when you're asleep but not dreaming. What people generally mean when they say "loss of self" on a psychedelic is "loss of sense of self", which would be the last two stages before the blackout. With the one where you just can't differentiate between anything, you might have some sense of control in the sense that even though you don't know what anything is you can still kind of recognize that "you" as a conscious perspective still have the ability to interact with / modify your sensory experience. (Note that this applies particularly to things like LSD.... If you're smoking like DMT for instance you may reach out-of-body experiences before reaching ego death, which of course would work a little differently.) In the last stage before consciousness, it really is a complete loss of sense of self, there is no "you" at all, just the experience. This generally requires you to be able to completely let go of every last bit of control of your reality, as OP mentioned, and it's not always easy (particularly when you're new to it). And by "not always easy", I mean "often a life-changing experience".
If you're interested in hallucinations or severe alterations in consciousness, the ego death is really the most fascinating part of the trip. But if you're interested in psychotherapeutic effects, in my opinion the most intriguing part is what comes after it. Well, I guess it depends.... The first few times you might overcome your fear of death or something similar, which is obviously therapeutic. Afterwards though the really interesting part is when your ego starts to reform; at that point you slowly rediscover yourself piece by piece coming from that totally infantile or even beyond-human state of mind, which means that you have a chance to completely re-evaluate every aspect of your life from outside your normal perspective. It's in this state that people often come face to face with their problems, insecurities, inner desires, and so on, and often end up being more honest with themselves than they were before. That could be what that guy was referring to when he mentioned coming face to face with your problems... or, he could mean during the ego loss itself. If you get to the point of full hallucinations and nothing else then such an experience can't really happen, because there's no "you" to experience it, but the hallucinations I suppose could still be themed with it and it would be more likely to happen in the stage where you're still in significant ego loss but have some obscure sense of control. What it really comes down to though is just how in touch you are with your inner self, as with your ego crushed your sense of identity and your mind/hallucinations will be based entirely on that inner you, even when your sense of self is totally gone (and note that this is significant in why it's not "true" ego death unless you're totally unconscious - even if you don't have a sense of yourself existing, if you're experiencing anything at all then it's still *you* as a biological machine getting that sensory information and that that sensory information is based on). If you ignore your true desire or things in your subconscious and are very attached to your ego as being who you really are, it can be very uncomfortable to reach that place. On the other hand, if you're already true to yourself it's not really a big deal. I've thus far found nothing but love and sexiness in that place, though I have had actual issues to deal with in the stages after it that I mentioned.
LSD I think is the perfect psychedelic in terms of following this setup. For reasons not yet entirely understood, and unique to it, LSD works in two phases. This has been reported extremely widespread anecdotally as well as having been studied in animal tests. The first phase of LSD is dominated by serotonin receptor activation with some dopamine receptor activation, whereas the second is dominated by dopamine activity with some serotonin activity. In rodents this shift seems to happen around an hour and a half after it kicks in (they inject it, so it would take a little longer if they fed it to them orally), whereas in humans both just from hearing others and from personal experience it seems that the biggest part of the shift happens around 3-5 hours, or maybe a little longer depending on the dose. Because of this switch, at least in normal doses it tends to work like this: the first part of the trip is overwhelmingly psychedelic, and in the second part you're still tripping but it's much more lucid and stimulating. Because of D2 receptor activity, a lot of people find this phase to be paranoid, probably because that can lower dopamine. However, it all comes down to how you look at it. For me, the second part of the trip is extremely sexual and euphoric, which can also be mediated by D2 from lowering prolactin. This is actually the way that many sex-enhancing drugs used in the steroid community work, some of which are actually non-psychedelic LSD analogues.
Does that answer your question?
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RAVE: Welp, I ended up tripping again like I said I was going to. And it ROCKED. It was the best trip of my life hands down. Somewhere between 8-10 hits of LSD (I was tripping too hard already to even remember how long I kept the last two in my mouth or if I swallowed them), lots of weed and JWH-250 (my favorite synthetic cannabinoid), and a good salvia extract. And I was watching these ridiculously (INSANELY) sexual and overwhelming and trippy Bollywood music videos for a lot of it.... I was cruising through the cosmos mainly.... It's slightly a rant because I used the end of my salvia and it's illegal here now, but it was the BEST use of the end of it I could possibly ask for. Because of the acid I was able to dive infinitely deeper with it than I've ever been able to before, and it was extremely euphoric. The first time was just pure, unadulterated ego death. The second I came down I smoked it again. On LSD I seem to always get this feeling where I'm so confused about what's going on around me that anything could exist at any state at any time; this is mainly expressed psychologically and visually. However, when the second salvia hit was added in the same effect was applied to my understanding of spacetime and where I existed in my environment. I experienced myself occupying an extremely vast space and also saw two perspectives, one from myself and one rotating around myself from a distance. There was a rushing feeling that was so intense with this total destruction of the integrity of physical space that I felt like this has to be what it's like when you die and you see your reality just erode in front of you. I think I tried to smoke more after that I but I can't remember what happened.... Mostly though after I ended up smoking more JWH-250 and weed....
I think I'm done with LSD for now, I need to move on to some other psychedelics for the moment. Ibogaine probably will genuinely be the next thing I do now.... But damn, I really wish I could get some more salvia. This combination is probably my new favorite now, I want to do LSD + salvia + DMT.
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