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      Rave: I had my first successful dream teleport! I changed the dream scene to my current apartment by jumping through a mirror it was amazing. Woke up, recorded my dream, and then fell into another Lucid. Jumped through a different mirror and was snowboarding down a mountain. So so excited I managed to do a more "advanced" lucid technique.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ametam View Post
      Rave: I had my first successful dream teleport! I changed the dream scene to my current apartment by jumping through a mirror it was amazing. Woke up, recorded my dream, and then fell into another Lucid. Jumped through a different mirror and was snowboarding down a mountain. So so excited I managed to do a more "advanced" lucid technique.
      Congregations! You did it!! I'm so glad to hear that! Keep up the practice, Ametem.
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      Quote Originally Posted by Ametam View Post
      Rave: I had my first successful dream teleport! I changed the dream scene to my current apartment by jumping through a mirror it was amazing. Woke up, recorded my dream, and then fell into another Lucid. Jumped through a different mirror and was snowboarding down a mountain. So so excited I managed to do a more "advanced" lucid technique.
      Dream View party time! Woohoo! That must have felt awesome. Good work!
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      Rant: Yesterday having WILD and chain of three DEILD, everything was normal until my third chain. I enter in dark place, couldn't see anything, stumbling on something, only to fall in the ocean, sinking fast. I was about to shout "I really hate black water" when 20 meters in front of me a huge monster appeared, moving really fast with big open mouth. I shut my eyes and immediately trying to open my physical eyes, thankfully waking up


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      ^Congrats!! You can probably make friends with that monster in your dreams. I wouldn't be surprised if there is really something like that in real life.

      Rave: It's nice out. It's warm.

      Rant: Still a little sore.
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      Quote Originally Posted by HumbleDreamer View Post
      ^Congrats!! You can probably make friends with that monster in your dreams. I wouldn't be surprised if there is really something like that in real life.
      If it was really in a dream...

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      Quote Originally Posted by michael79 View Post
      If it was really in a dream...
      So are you saying this is your reality? What makes you feel this way?

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      Really great day. My dad is back from surgery, it went well, and now he has this air conditioner machine hooked up to his shoulder. But he's ok.

      I had my formal observation the other day, it's a big deal and determines my pay grade for next year. It's very stressful, for all teachers. I did a lesson with the kids interacting on a jamboard, then showed slides of various cells on my digital microscope that projects onto the google meet. Then, on my lunch break, I actually drove down to the nearest canal I could find. I climbed the steep dirty slope and scooped up the water, I got my shoes all dirty in the process, BUT, the kids got to see little amoebas and stuff swimming around on the microscope. Then, they did a plant cell city activity where they had to import images of city places to represent organelles in the cell, and ended with an exit ticket on their progress and how they would reward themselves for their hard work. I had my post interview today, and got 7 (seven!) innovating scores!! And made my required goal (whew!!!). I am very happy.

      Also, I had dream messages from one of my dream guides the night before my observation telling me that the activity was too easy, and that I needed to make it more rigorous. So the next morning, I did. The admin who did my evaluation commented specifically on that. He praised me for not "dumbing down the lesson for the ESE kids" and keeping it challenging.

      Sorry it's so long. Just very happy and wanted to share it.
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      Quote Originally Posted by HumbleDreamer View Post
      So are you saying this is your reality? What makes you feel this way?
      Astral spaces, my Man, astral spaces, not every time you jump back in your own mind space
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      Quote Originally Posted by michael79 View Post
      Astral spaces, my Man, astral spaces, not every time you jump back in your own mind space


      rant: I just went outside barefoot because it was a nice day and I stepped on broken glass. Then I found out that the was a broken window from the attic. My foot is bleeding.

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      Quote Originally Posted by michael79 View Post
      Astral spaces, my Man, astral spaces, not every time you jump back in your own mind space
      Oh, I see. Thought you were just joking at first. I have seen some freaky critters in the astral.




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      I had my post interview today, and got 7 (seven!) innovating scores!! And made my required goal (whew!!!). I am very happy.
      That is wonderful! I am happy for you.
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      Quote Originally Posted by sivason View Post
      Oh, I see. Thought you were just joking at first. I have seen some freaky critters in the astral.
      I ain't joking with shits like that!
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      Rant: In the middle of the night. Had a fever. Not sure it was because of the glass that was in my foot or something else. Has a little bit of SP too.

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      Not happy, I have to take a medication, and I hate taking medications (it's called gabapentin). My ENT prescribed it for my ear, I have to take it for one month to rule out a nerve problem. It affects sleep so I am wondering how it's going to affect my dreams.
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      Quote Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream View Post
      Not happy, I have to take a medication, and I hate taking medications (it's called gabapentin). My ENT prescribed it for my ear, I have to take it for one month to rule out a nerve problem. It affects sleep so I am wondering how it's going to affect my dreams.
      It is something that can cause "weird dreams." So it will not prevent dreaming. Sounds like a good opportunity for a fun variation in your hobby!
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      Quote Originally Posted by sivason View Post
      It is something that can cause "weird dreams." So it will not prevent dreaming. Sounds like a good opportunity for a fun variation in your hobby!
      Apparently. I've been reading up on it.. however, with the crazy, and I mean crazy side effects, there's no way I can take this. The brain fog alone people talk about, and memory issues.. no way. Found one article which talks about how it stops the production of a neurotransmitter (glutamate), and this can cause brain damage over long term usage. And apparently very addictive and horrible withdrawal symptoms. Yuck, not worth it. I'll stick with my heating pad and get a second opinion. Oh yeah? Also a side effect - suicidal thoughts and mood issues. No thanks!!

      But it may have been cool for the dreaming. Oh well, will never know.

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      Quote Originally Posted by MoonageDaydream View Post
      Apparently. I've been reading up on it.. however, with the crazy, and I mean crazy side effects, there's no way I can take this. The brain fog alone people talk about, and memory issues.. no way. Found one article which talks about how it stops the production of a neurotransmitter (glutamate), and this can cause brain damage over long term usage. And apparently very addictive and horrible withdrawal symptoms. Yuck, not worth it. I'll stick with my heating pad and get a second opinion. Oh yeah? Also a side effect - suicidal thoughts and mood issues. No thanks!!

      But it may have been cool for the dreaming. Oh well, will never know.

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      Yes, it does have horrible effects on the side of physical addiction.

      Although I have not personally been on it, I knew someone that took it for the same problems I have (pain/fatigue) and it actually made them much less functional. It was horrible to see how they seemed to be worse on it than not on it... Many people with conditions like mine have "brain fog" regardless of being on any meds or not, so for us that risk is sometimes acceptable, but the aspects of physical addiction in general are probably underplayed by doctors, I imagine.

      Edit: The worst about that person was I couldn't find any way of convincing them to come off it. They were too afraid of feeling even worse for stopping. I don't know how they are now, but they weren't well at all last I saw them.

      One of the medications I take now works in a different way despite working in a similar "area" of effect, and doesn't have quite so many horrible effects, at least based on my own experience and discussions with some people who had it too. But I think my medication is much more expensive than Gabapentin, so it's likely Gabapentin gets prescribed first in many of the applicable cases.

      You should try asking your doctor for alternative medications to rule out nerve problems, because they exist, but may simply be more costly. Unfortunately, with any of these type of things, many of the potential side effects are the same between the medications that treat certain issues. You know, even anti-depressants can cause... depression, among other things. Certainly one I was on once did make me feel worse overall, one reason was because it made me put on weight and affected my self-image.

      It's just luck of the draw with how your own body responds overall sometimes and you have to weigh whether potential risks are worth it versus what's supposed to be treated. Essentially what you did now.
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      With this talk about nerves, and Gabapentin, I'll just throw the name "Lion's mane" in there for your contemplation. It's a medicinal mushroom (not a psychedelic one) which has been found to be highly beneficial in regenerating nerve tissue, and boosting memory. It has also been used by DV'ers (myself included) for dreaming purposes (better dream recall). Unfortunately, it is also a highly valued delicacy.
      So ... is this the real universe, or is it just a preliminary study?

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      Quote Originally Posted by DarkestDarkness View Post
      Yes, it does have horrible effects on the side of physical addiction.

      Although I have not personally been on it, I knew someone that took it for the same problems I have (pain/fatigue) and it actually made them much less functional. It was horrible to see how they seemed to be worse on it than not on it... Many people with conditions like mine have "brain fog" regardless of being on any meds or not, so for us that risk is sometimes acceptable, but the aspects of physical addiction in general are probably underplayed by doctors, I imagine.

      Edit: The worst about that person was I couldn't find any way of convincing them to come off it. They were too afraid of feeling even worse for stopping. I don't know how they are now, but they weren't well at all last I saw them.

      One of the medications I take now works in a different way despite working in a similar "area" of effect, and doesn't have quite so many horrible effects, at least based on my own experience and discussions with some people who had it too. But I think my medication is much more expensive than Gabapentin, so it's likely Gabapentin gets prescribed first in many of the applicable cases.

      You should try asking your doctor for alternative medications to rule out nerve problems, because they exist, but may simply be more costly. Unfortunately, with any of these type of things, many of the potential side effects are the same between the medications that treat certain issues. You know, even anti-depressants can cause... depression, among other things. Certainly one I was on once did make me feel worse overall, one reason was because it made me put on weight and affected my self-image.

      It's just luck of the draw with how your own body responds overall sometimes and you have to weigh whether potential risks are worth it versus what's supposed to be treated. Essentially what you did now.
      Thank you for sharing your experiences. I definitely got a bit scared last night after reading some horror stories of various people who've taken it. Apparently it also commonly causes intense nightmares. I'm just scared. If it was just my ear - I wouldn't care. Put a heating pad on it and take 2 advil, in 1 hour I'll be ok. My back sciatica though, that's really annoying. When it triggers it can be hard for me to walk (at night anyways), and lasts several days or longer. My GP seemed to think it was a muscular issue affecting the nerve, and I believe 5 years ago I got prescribed the same medication for it, but I never took it. At some point I may need to try something.

      Quote Originally Posted by Voldmer View Post
      With this talk about nerves, and Gabapentin, I'll just throw the name "Lion's mane" in there for your contemplation. It's a medicinal mushroom (not a psychedelic one) which has been found to be highly beneficial in regenerating nerve tissue, and boosting memory. It has also been used by DV'ers (myself included) for dreaming purposes (better dream recall). Unfortunately, it is also a highly valued delicacy.
      Thank you for bringing this up. I actually have some, but I've mostly forgotten about it. It's in the powder form. I haven't taken it much because I got scared about heavy metals and lead content possibly in it (it's a phobia I have). I guess you could say I also freak out about medications. I think this is safe though. I'd like to try it again.
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      Quote Originally Posted by DarkestDarkness View Post
      Yes, it does have horrible effects on the side of physical addiction.

      Although I have not personally been on it, I knew someone that took it for the same problems I have (pain/fatigue) and it actually made them much less functional. It was horrible to see how they seemed to be worse on it than not on it... Many people with conditions like mine have "brain fog" regardless of being on any meds or not, so for us that risk is sometimes acceptable, but the aspects of physical addiction in general are probably underplayed by doctors, I imagine.

      Edit: The worst about that person was I couldn't find any way of convincing them to come off it. They were too afraid of feeling even worse for stopping. I don't know how they are now, but they weren't well at all last I saw them.

      One of the medications I take now works in a different way despite working in a similar "area" of effect, and doesn't have quite so many horrible effects, at least based on my own experience and discussions with some people who had it too. But I think my medication is much more expensive than Gabapentin, so it's likely Gabapentin gets prescribed first in many of the applicable cases.

      You should try asking your doctor for alternative medications to rule out nerve problems, because they exist, but may simply be more costly. Unfortunately, with any of these type of things, many of the potential side effects are the same between the medications that treat certain issues. You know, even anti-depressants can cause... depression, among other things. Certainly one I was on once did make me feel worse overall, one reason was because it made me put on weight and affected my self-image.

      It's just luck of the draw with how your own body responds overall sometimes and you have to weigh whether potential risks are worth it versus what's supposed to be treated. Essentially what you did now.
      Lyrica (pregabalin)? That one is C rated so I would think it had a bit more addiction possibility. I would consider either very unlikely of causing dependence one would have much trouble overcoming. You just taper a person off over a month or so if they have been on high doses.

      Some anti-depressants are also effective against nerve pain such as nortriptiline or cymbalta.

      If you read up on the "possible" side effects of any medication you would likely think they are all scary. They list every complaint that can happen even if the likelihood is very small. I generally consider lower dose gabapentin to be well tolerated, and the foggy head thing is the main problem that comes up on high doses. I would not want a foggy head, but maybe if I was in chronic pain it would be worth it if it helped with that.
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      True, they all have side effects. I'm very cautious about medications, though, and honestly, I don't think that's a bad way to be. I don't trust pharmaceutical companies too much. Or doctors. I think their primary goal is making money. Plus, I think we're an over-medicated society. Not to invalidate - I know sometimes people really need the medications, and I get that. But I can't tell you how many times I've been thrown a prescription (without any warnings) that wasn't really all that needed. They hand them out like candy it seems. I definitely want to try natural methods first, for as long as I can. The medication will be a last resort.

      One thing that is disturbing to me is that many brain chemistry-altering drugs [not gabapentin thankfully] are linked to increased Alzheimer's risk, even simple antihistamines.
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      In reply to Sivason: That's the one I was mentioning specifically, yes, but I also imagined there could be other alternatives I'm unaware of, too. I also did not want to mention it by name because it's not really my place to make recommendations in either direction, though I suppose re-reading my previous post it read with a certain bias and perhaps overly assertive where it shouldn't have been so. My experience and that of those around me is anecdotal, I do realise this and can only hope others make that assumption too.

      If I sounded over-cautious as well it's because as a rule of thumb I still think the best thing to do when people have doubts about this sort of stuff is to try and discuss it with whoever is giving them treatment.

      Could you explain what a C rating signifies. I am not familiar with the system you're mentioning; or you could drop a link or PM one about those ratings and I'll be happy to do further reading on it that way.

      And I agree, I can't really think of any medication that doesn't have a lot of "possible" side-effects as you say. I haven't been unwilling to try a medication I've never been on before simply based on what others have told me about it, generally I'm just open to trying whatever a therapist recommends and just see how things go. I'm almost certain I've had bad reactions with stuff which people I know have had, while they were perfectly fine with it and vice versa, I've not had any bad reactions from stuff others did.
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      Quote Originally Posted by DarkestDarkness View Post
      In reply to Sivason: That's the one I was mentioning specifically, yes, but I also imagined there could be other alternatives I'm unaware of, too. I also did not want to mention it by name because it's not really my place to make recommendations in either direction, though I suppose re-reading my previous post it read with a certain bias and perhaps overly assertive where it shouldn't have been so. My experience and that of those around me is anecdotal, I do realise this and can only hope others make that assumption too.

      If I sounded over-cautious as well it's because as a rule of thumb I still think the best thing to do when people have doubts about this sort of stuff is to try and discuss it with whoever is giving them treatment.
      I hope you don't mind me saying this, but you did not come across as overly assertive to me at all. Besides, I would say, you have every right to think the way you do, based on your life experiences. I do understand your perspective is based on anecdotal evidence. That's okay. I am thankful that you and sivason did make recommendations - it's something I can bring up to my doctor if needed.
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      C rating is what makes a drug Controlled in USA. It is illegal to own them with no prescription. They are rated 1-5 with 1 being illegal drugs. 2 drugs highly regulated like pain pills, all the way down to 5. Lyrica is a 5. 5 is basically things that are sometimes but rarely abused. Apparently some people like the feeling the Lyrica causes, so they may take it with no medical need. Not anything to worry about.

      Sorry you do not trust doctors. They get paid the same whether they prescribe medication, therapy or alternatives.
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      Quote Originally Posted by sivason View Post
      C rating is what makes a drug Controlled in USA. It is illegal to own them with no prescription. They are rated 1-5 with 1 being illegal drugs. 2 drugs highly regulated like pain pills, all the way down to 5. Lyrica is a 5. 5 is basically things that are sometimes but rarely abused. Apparently some people like the feeling the Lyrica causes, so they may take it with no medical need. Not anything to worry about.
      Right, I am familiar with the controlled drugs concept but didn't know the terms or how it worked exactly for you guys over there, thank you for the overview.

      To be honest I don't get any side effects from it myself, not even that feeling you mention people supposedly enjoy. I was actually a bit surprised when I read about it being a thing with Lyrica and that people would abuse it for that purpose, since I'd never had that effect from it myself. I only found that out last year while reading up on it the medication again and I've been on it for years now. Maybe it's because I've always been on a low dose.

      I guess this leads me on a little bit of a rant from me now on this subject. My doctor would rather I was on a higher dose but I get enough help with the pain like this and taking a higher dose would just mean it would be unaffordable... I imagine that medications probably do take a complex production chain to reach a finished product but I can only wonder how much margin there is sometimes. It sucks that medication that allows me to actually be more normal and functional happens to also be (what I consider) expensive.

      But I just accept that it's how things are and at least I do think it's fortunate that there is something at all for many conditions these days.

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      I hope you don't mind me saying this, but you did not come across as overly assertive to me at all. Besides, I would say, you have every right to think the way you do, based on your life experiences. I do understand your perspective is based on anecdotal evidence. That's okay. I am thankful that you and sivason did make recommendations - it's something I can bring up to my doctor if needed.
      I'm glad to hear that and thank you for the reassurance; I do hope your issues subside or get under control as much and as soon as possible.
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