The Worst Experience of My Life...and a Warning...

[Oneironaut Zero]

[Edit: I know this is extremely long. The short version is that I tried some of that 'Spice' crap that people are smoking, on an impulse. When it comes to weed and some other mind-altering substances, I'm a seasoned veteran, but - even with a few bad trips under my belt - this was the worst ordeal I'd ever been through. This is just my recounting of the experience, as it happened, and I hope it serves as a warning to anyone else who is smoking -or thinking about smoking - that crap.] Ok, let me just start this by saying that I'm well aware that this experience was my own damn fault. I experimented with some dumb shit, against even my own better judgement, and I paid the price for it. So any of you clowns out there, who want to give me shit for it and talk about how retarded it was can fuck right off, thank you very much. So yeah, I'd had a little bit of alcohol (hardly a buzz), and a house full of people. A guy and I go out to the back so he could take a smoke break, and I was just going to hang out with him. Take into account that, at this time, his mom is inside talking to my mom and both our kids are inside playing with each other. So, along with his cigarette, he pulls out a bowl of that 'Spice' shit that all the 'cool' kids are smoking nowadays. It had never been something I was all that curious about. I'd tried a bit (of a different brand), before, and it wasn't all that great. Definitely didn't feel like smoking weed. This particular kind he had was called "FUBAR", which was different from the stuff I'd tried before. After a little time (and a little persuasion, admittedly), I figured what the hell, and I took two tiny swats off of it. As I said; I was only slightly buzzed before that, and I am not exactly a novice, when it comes to mind altering substances. (We're talking about a guy who spent his first time at Islands of Adventure, riding roller coaster on LSD with no problem. It just goes to show that you can never underestimate a mind-altering substance...) After a few short moments of standing there, I was beginning to realize how fucked up I was. I wanted to sit down, but didn't really want to look as stoned as I was, so I tried to fight it for a bit, and stood there, swaying. I figured that I would be cool, if I was just kind of left alone for a moment to catch my bearings. Suddenly, my mom comes to the back door and says that the computer technician is back with my computer, and wanted to talk to me about a few things. I tell her 'ok,' but in my head, I'm thinking 'FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCKKKK!! ' I gather myself as much I can, and we walk back in the house. That's what did it. That's where things started going south. I was just completely overwhelmed with all the activity in the house. This other guy's daughter iwas running around with my daughters guitar, making her loud 'music''; the TV is on; our parents are there; this PC tech, who I'd only met a few hours earlier was there. It was a nightmare for someone who was trying to remain as inconspicuous as possible. As quickly and discretely as I could manage, I went straight to my room and tried to collect my wits, but I knew I couldn't hide out there for too long, so I walked back out into the living room. I pulled my mom to the side and was going to tell her what was going on with me...but the words would not come out. That's when the shit really hit the fan. It was like time froze. I literally got stuck in that moment where I was trying to figure out what to say to her, and I was never able to actually say it. I tried so hard to tell her something like "...look...I'm just kind of fucked up right now, and I just need some time to myself to shake this..." No dice. It was like I could hear myself thinking it, but my brain was literally disconnected from my body, and the words wouldn't come. It was actually kind of like being on Salvia (which I don't like), in that one moment tends to last for an eternity, and being around people is the most uncomfortable thing ever. I think the only thing I managed to say to her was "Im...really...fucked...up..." between desperate gestures of attempting to speak. I could see in her eyes that she was getting really scared, and kept asking what was wrong, and I was staring right at her, but the words would just not come out. I grabbed onto her shoulders and tried SO FUCKING HARD to speak, but I couldn't. I was staggering and could hardly stand on my own. By this time, the entire house was gathered around me, and I remember seeing the computer tech jump up from his chair to make room, when it looked like I might have been about to fall over on him. I was literally gone. I kept flailing and making off-balance gestures. My back would arch and my arms would fly out to the sides. I would topple and someone would catch me. Everyone was yelling at me and trying to get me to respond. But I couldn't. I couldn't talk. I couldn't speak at all. I could just make these horrible, broken grunts and moans, trying to funnel everything that was going on in my head, out through my mouth. It felt like this was going on forever, and it wasn't until I started to wonder if I had literally slipped into permanent insanity, that I really started to get scared. I thought it was over for me. I thought about being put into an asylum. I thought about dying... The worst thing was that I was completely aware of all this, but I couldn't stop it. I was talking to myself, in my head. I was coherent in my own mind. I remember my mom repeatedly asking if I needed her to call 911, and in my mind I'm screaming "NOOOOO!!! I'LL BE OK!! JUST LET ME LAY DOWN FOR A BIT!!" but it came out as just a frantic shaking of my head and a few unintelligible sounds. I felt about 3 people holding me up. Someone grabbed a chair and set it down in front of me, and I sat down. All I could do was just look around at all of the people looking back at me. I was still completely lost. That's when the paramedics showed up. (Yes, they called them anyway.) I vaguely remember the awkward conversation with them, as I was starting to come back around. They asked me what year it was, and what city I was in. I had to think about both, but I answered them both correctly. Then, he threw me a curve and asked me whose house I was in right now. I had to think. I looked at the guy who I'd gone outside with and asked him the name of the person that lived here, thinking it belonged to one of his friends. Everyone looked at me like 'wtf?' The paramedic said 'this is your first time here?' I said 'yeah.' It wasn't until then that I noticed that I was in the 2nd dining room, on the far side of my own house. Quickly trying to play it off (although completely kicking myself for it, now), I said "I'm just playing...this is home..." Even that was hard to say correctly. Of course everyone was like "DON'T PLAY LIKE THAT!!" I wasn't really, though. At the time that he'd asked, I had absolutely no fucking clue where I was. He asked me what I'd been taking, I told him that I'd drank some alcohol and smoked a little herb (funny that I felt more comfortable about telling him that I smoked weed than the 'legal' shit...). While we're all sitting there, I was trying to keep up with the conversations going on, and the paramedics pricked my finger to test for something. A few more moments passed, and I could feel my stomach turning. I wondered if anyone could noticed the subtle convulsions. I looked up and saw that everyone was pretty much talking amongst themselves, now that things had calmed down, and the paramedics were still sending a few questions my way, that I struggled to answer. Finally, I felt everything come surging back up, and I clamped my mouth closed to keep it all in. I got up and ran to the bathroom and practically dry-heaved myself inside out. Not having eaten all day didn't help, I'm sure. The guy I'd been hangin with comes in and talks to me while I'm puking, and I was basically just like "Dude....WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK WAS THAT?! Seriously..." For a while, that's pretty much all I could say, between dry-heaves. He was the only one that I told about not knowing where I was, when the medic asked me. After a good 20 minutes of throwing up nothing, my whole body was shaking. The medics had been dismissed, by then. I just lay down on the bed for a while and eventually passed out, after ensuring everyone left that I was ok. Even now, some hours after the whole ordeal, and a short nap, I feel like I had just had my ass royally kicked. I'm ok now, but that is something I Never, Never, NEVER fucking EVER want to experience again. I have experimented with all kinds of shit, in my lifetime, but as I told my mom after everything was over, my experimenting days are over. I've had bad trips before, but that was literally the worst, most horrifying thing I have ever experienced, And yes, I know it was fucking dumb. Cut me some slack, here. I wasn't really a huge fan of the slight buzz that I got from the first swat of that synthetic shit, some time ago, so I was just gonna be like 'well, ok, I'll take a small toke, just to see if this stuff is a little different.' I wasn't even planning on getting fucked up off of it. Never again. NEVER again. If you all have people that you know, that mess with that stuff, talk to them about it. I had been hearing warnings and stuff about all these anecdotal cases of things happening to people who abused that stuff, but I was naive in thinking that those were rare cases of inexperienced people just getting completely ripped off of it. I openly admit that I was dead fucking wrong. That shit is dangerous. Stay away from it. Fuck. I need some water...

[Seroquel]

Where are the cliffs

[Oneironaut Zero]

Where are the cliffs I just posted the whole experience as I remembered it. I don't expect a lot of people to sit through it, but that's ok. If you don't want to read it, don't.

[khh]

Wow, that really sounds horrible. And while it's true that you did do it to yourself, you could hardly have expected something like that. Never heard of it before. But I guess it just goes to show that you can't be too careful with drugs. Glad you're all right. How are you gonna explain it to everyone?

[Oneironaut Zero]

Wow, that really sounds horrible. And while it's true that you did do it to yourself, you could hardly have expected something like that. Never heard of it before. But I guess it just goes to show that you can't be too careful with drugs. Glad you're all right. How are you gonna explain it to everyone? I came out and told my mom about it. She knows that I drink and smoke weed, but I'm very 'together.' I don't get myself too fucked up, when I'm around family. I'm usually very moderate, when I know I need to keep my wits about me. So she's never even seen anything close to me acting like that. She knows about that Spice stuff, and has heard some of the warnings, herself, so I pretty much assured her that I will nevereverever try that shit again. I'm usually pretty open with her, though, so I knew I was going to have to just come out and tell her what I'd taken.

[celestialelixir]

So did you ever get to speak to the friend that gave you some in the first place again? Did he apologize or anything?

[Oneironaut Zero]

Yeah. We spoke, and he apologized. Of course, after things calmed down, he was cracking jokes like "Sooo....gonna try it again, next time I'm here?? BUWAHAHAHAA!" I'm like "FUUUUUUCK YOUUUUUUU!" I'm not mad at him, about it, though. I seriously doubt he expected anything like this to happen, and as I said, it may have been his fault for offering, but I should have stuck to my guns and declined, but I figured what the hell.

[AURON]

During my anatomy class, the teacher (who works part time at a hospital) was telling us that a lot of people were coming in for that stuff. Don't know how true it is...but they said they found traces of rat poisoning in it. I had a bad experience off of that shit around last year. Didn't eat for like two days, and had no appetite and said "hey lets smoke this...maybe I'll be hungry afterwords". Long story short, I though it was the end of the world and the cops picked me up several miles from my home.

[Oneironaut Zero]

During my anatomy class, the teacher (who works part time at a hospital) was telling us that a lot of people were coming in for that stuff. Don't know how true it is...but they said they found traces of rat poisoning in it. I wouldn't be surprised. I've been hearing warnings about the stuff, here and there, but I gotta be honest, when I say that I thought it was mostly hype. So wrong. So very wrong. I had a bad experience off of that shit around last year. Didn't eat for like two days, and had no appetite and said "hey lets smoke this...maybe I'll be hungry afterwords". Long story short, I though it was the end of the world and the cops picked me up several miles from my home. I believe it. It wasn't until a few minutes ago that I realized how much the experience was like an extremely intense Salvia trip (and I'm not a big fan of Salvia). That feeling, on top of already being anxious about having so many people around that I had to 'be sober' around, just made things completely spiral out of control. It was like I was having an anxiety attack or something.

[Twoshadows]

That sounds very scary. I'm glad you're alright now.

[Oneironaut Zero]

Thanks, TS. So am I. It was definitely a learning experience. I'll say that much.

[Zhaylin]

Glad to hear you're okay. It was very scary for me to read it because my 14 year old daughter smoked that crap and/or another brand called Demon almost every day for at least a couple of months. And I was never the wiser. She just always looked sleepy. They finally removed ALL such products from my county because there were so many bad reports.

[Oneironaut Zero]

It was very scary for me to read it because my 14 year old daughter smoked that crap and/or another brand called Demon almost every day for at least a couple of months. And I was never the wiser. She just always looked sleepy. They finally removed ALL such products from my county because there were so many bad reports. Thanks, Zhaylin. I was talking with Auron in chat about how tolerance for that shit builds up rather quickly, and it makes perfect sense. The guy who had offered it has been said to have been hooked on it for a long time, and spending 100's of dollars on it - always getting the newer, stronger brands, and stuff. If the stuff that he gave me did that to me, and does hardly anything to him, I can only imagine how bad that shit is for his mind and body. =/

[Original Poster]

I like the part where you couldn't remember where you lived.

[LucidFlanders]

Glad you're ok.

[Original Poster]

My recreation of O's worst life experience: Act 1 O: Damn if there's anyone dumber than me it's my friends Dumb friend: Lulz smoke some spice? O: lulz ok! Act 2 (5 minute later) O: Wow I m most ever fucked up yeah Dum friend: Wtf you sya? Mamma O: O! GTF IN HERE AND TALK TO THE POOTER REPAIR MAN! O(in head) Man I need to lay down, I'm going to tell my mom I smoked some shit and cannot handle this complicated real life situation O(in reality) GRUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHNUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHUUUUUUUUUU UU! Mamma O: Do you want me to call the Paramedic? O(in mind): Please do not inform the law enforcement people, this will surely pass in time O(in reality): NUUUUUUUUUUUU! Mamma O: Call the paramedic, I think he may have had a pot or something. Act 3 Paramedic: Where do you live? O: Hell Paramedics nod to each other. Paramedic: Who's house is this? O(to neighbor): Yo homes! Who the Eff Live hera? Neighbor: You do idiot, don't go around my children. The end

[Oneironaut Zero]

That's... ....pretty much how it went down, actually. Yeah.

[DeletePlease]

lmao

[tommo]

haha I read the thread title and was like "I bet this was some bad drug trip" First of all.... Yeah, that was dumb as fuck. Sorry, it had to be said lol I don't know if you read any of my warnings around here, I tink I've posted about it a few times though. One in particular after Zhaylin mentioned her daughter was smoking it. Basically it is synthetic THC analogue sprayed on random plant matter, or in your case it sounds like just the powdered version. I'm sure you know, THC alone (meaning without CBD) is bound to give almost anyone a panic attack. This synthetic THC is even worse than that. And it doesn't help that it's so hard to dose. Anyway, I've had a similar experience with just really strong weed before. So I probably know exactly how you felt. It's definitely not good. Also.... Didn't eat for like two days You also mentioned this O'. Smoking even normal weed without eating is definitely not a good thing to do. Cannabis lowers blood pressure dramatically. Which is why you get REALLY relaxed when you first smoke and need to sit down. This can lead to panic if you aren't really sure what's happening. Coupled with trying to look normal, (not sitting down) you are fighting what your body is telling you to do, so your heart starts pumping a lot harder to bring your blood pressure back up. Whereas if you had sat down, your body wouldn't have needed to raise your blood pressure so much. (Coz obviously standing up requires higher blood pressure.) Anyway, hope you're feeling good now. And I'm glad this is here as a warning. I will refer people to it if I see anyone thinking about smoking it.

[HeavySleeper]

Damn it, O! I took you for a man of good judgement. If you ever do something like this again, you'll die. And not from the drugs!

[Oneironaut Zero]

Yeah, that was dumb as fuck. Sorry, it had to be said lol Just couldn't resist, could you?! Lol. I don't know if you read any of my warnings around here, I tink I've posted about it a few times though. One in particular after Zhaylin mentioned her daughter was smoking it. Actually, no. I hadn't seen any of your warnings, but I wish I had. Basically it is synthetic THC analogue sprayed on random plant matter, or in your case it sounds like just the powdered version. I'm sure you know, THC alone (meaning without CBD) is bound to give almost anyone a panic attack. This synthetic THC is even worse than that. And it doesn't help that it's so hard to dose. And I should have thought about that. That's what happens when you get cocky and careless. I've never been the type to get panic attacks off of weed. Never. Sure, there is a point where you get too high and you're just like "jeeezus, ok, i'd like to come down a little now, thanks..." but I've never experienced something like this on regular (real) weed. I really figured that, since I'd thought I was taking such a small dose, I might just get a tiny buzz or something. I had no idea that this shit was so strong. I'd usually somewhat careful about trying new shit, but it was spur of the moment, and something I was completely uneducated about (outside of the fact that it 'could be dangerous', as is said of pretty much all substances). Unfortunately, I pretty much did everything wrong, this time. You also mentioned this O'. Smoking even normal weed without eating is definitely not a good thing to do. Cannabis lowers blood pressure dramatically. Which is why you get REALLY relaxed when you first smoke and need to sit down. This can lead to panic if you aren't really sure what's happening. Coupled with trying to look normal, (not sitting down) you are fighting what your body is telling you to do, so your heart starts pumping a lot harder to bring your blood pressure back up. Whereas if you had sat down, your body wouldn't have needed to raise your blood pressure so much. (Coz obviously standing up requires higher blood pressure.) You know...I never even once thought of this. Anyway, hope you're feeling good now. And I'm glad this is here as a warning. I will refer people to it if I see anyone thinking about smoking it. I'm feeling much better now, thanks. And yeah, even if it's not enough to deter someone from trying it, I think it would definitely give them something to think about - provided that they can get through the massive OP. Thanks again, man. Damn it, O! I took you for a man of a good judgement. Usually, I am! ...I do slip up, every now and then, though. If you ever do something like this again, you'll die. And not from the drugs! Haha. Duly noted.

[LucidFlanders]

Paramedic: Where do you live? O: Hell Paramedics nod to each other. HAHA! Now they are thinking "Ok, this guys nuts...looney bin here you come".

[ooflendoodle]

Also it might've had different effect in combination with the alcohol. Glad you're okay, but seriously you need to think about the important things O, if you weren't around who would run our RP battles?

[Oneironaut Zero]

Glad you're okay, but seriously you need to think about the important things O, if you weren't around who would run our RP battles? Very, very true!

[StaySharp]

Looks like you've just learned the hard way what drugs can do but as long as you're still okay and don't wanna do it never ever again you'll be fine. Well that's why I've always kept away from all types of drugs. I'll keep all my trips safe and sound in the dream world