Thread: Lucid Dreaming App - Open Beta!

After about a week of calibration (my sleep schedule is so erratic it probably needed this much time to finally work), I came close to having an LD. This morning, a few minutes into a dream, the app woke me up with the reminder. I had everything on, sound, vibrate, and light flashes, but the fact that the reminder played after a few minutes into my sleep was excellent, and all I need to do is work out some kinks in the reminder.

Excellent work, this app works. Also, double post ftw.

Originally Posted by Cephas

Hi Ev!

So what must I do?

For calibration I placed my mobile on a flat surface (table) and calibrated for 15min. I don't understand why but I'll try to do it on my bed.

Regarding the Sleep Scoring Constant. I believe this is the "Set Sleep Score Activity Threshold", I have it set for 13 activity counts. What value should I try? After changing this I have to "Override Cole Constant" right?

I can't post screenshots here, I need to be registered for at least 7 days. I'm also sending this to the e-mail you said.

Thank you.

I'd say do the calibration on your bed; that's how I calibrated it.

Hey I've got a quick Question, my graph from last night recorded three normal dreams and one lucid, does the app only record dreams when the user draws the gestures or is it predicting i had the dream, because I do not recall the dreams or writing the gestures. btw all the dreams were at the end of sleep episodes.

EV

please make it works on Firmware 1.1

I got A problem Install unseccessful

i don't know why

And isnt this harmful to our bodies considering we are leaving a device thats produces EMFs right next to us for the entire night and we all know that EMFs can be harmful to our bodies so im no longer going to be using this cuz i dont like brain tumors loll

I just got this last night, it seems great. I guess I'll have to use it a few more nights before I can say if it helps. The sleep data is interesting though. It marked a few Xs where apparently it played reminders even though mine were off, is it supposed to?

I only noticed a couple problems - when I quit the app this morning, the little yellow ! about activity monitoring in my notifications stayed there, even when I cleared it. This was inadvertently fixed when I accidentally started the app again and quit immediately after. ^^; That could just be my phone, though.

Also, I only did the quick calibration before using it last night, and wanted to try doing the extended one this morning, but both times I tried, it gave me an error and I had to force close. Are you supposed to be able to do it more than once? I thought it might improve the accuracy. I can send an error report about this if it'll help?

Awesome work though, thanks for this~

Originally Posted by rocker340

And isnt this harmful to our bodies considering we are leaving a device thats produces EMFs right next to us for the entire night and we all know that EMFs can be harmful to our bodies so im no longer going to be using this cuz i dont like brain tumors loll

i hope you dont use a microwave then.

the micro from phones are negligible compared to other sources, but i too have reservations about leaving it on and close all night long.

i used it for a several nights to establish my sleep cycles, and then now i just use the reminders occasionally and leave it on my desk.

so far it wakes me up from dreams, plays when i have just awoken from a dream, or i miss it entirely, nothing has made it through to my dreams that i am aware of. but i will keep tweaking the volume and placement.

i continue to have problems like the lightning continues to flash and the status icons stay on. when i press the back button to exit it just goes to the homescreen, i cant get back into the app without restarting it.

Originally Posted by Kitties

I just got this last night, it seems great. I guess I'll have to use it a few more nights before I can say if it helps. The sleep data is interesting though. It marked a few Xs where apparently it played reminders even though mine were off, is it supposed to?

Awesome work though, thanks for this~

if you do the sleep history option, there is a demo file in there that already has data. it took me a minute to figure out i had to delete it to only see my personal graphs.

Originally Posted by zhineTech

if you do the sleep history option, there is a demo file in there that already has data. it took me a minute to figure out i had to delete it to only see my personal graphs.

Hmm, I do see the demo graph there, but I was just looking at a single one, not the history option, and the sample one has 'sample' in the file name. The date and times and everything match up with my sleep, there are just Xs on the graph and the stats underneath say it played 3 reminders. I didn't hear any, though.

this app sounds awesome but just force closes on my xperia mini

This is one of the many "Lucid Dreamign apps" I have on my Android device, it was even the first one. I must say with all the data and information that is featured in this application I am surprised it is free. Before I downloaded I went through and read all of the reviews (I like reading reviews..) and I am sorry that you get negative reviews from people who don't even know how to work the application. It really is a great application with a lot of potential. Good job.

Originally Posted by Castles

I am sorry that you get negative reviews from people who don't even know how to work the application. It really is a great application with a lot of potential. Good job.

+1

I don't know if anyone else had this problem (searched thread but found no results).

Tried this app for the first time last night and in the morning I did the awake gesture and stopped the sleep tracking, got a graph in the graph section so it seem like it did register my sleep that night, but later on the day I noticed that in the status bar there was a line saying something similiar to "noise level is tracked through microphone, press to stop" so I tried to stop it by pressing but it didn't disappear and later that day I noticed that it made a phone call not work properly (the person I was calling to could not hear me) so I rebooted and everything went fine. Am I the only one who's gotten this bug / problem, am I doing something wrong when I stop the tracker in the morning?

Besides that I must say this is a brilliant application, I am looking forward to using it for real after some days of testing.

Hey! Great app!

I installed it 2 nights ago on my Galaxy S and here are some problems/suggestions:

1) Sleep episodes is one straight line from falling asleep to waking up, i guess this is a calibration issue? Sleep score is at a constant zero once i fall asleep...

2) Audio level had 1 spike in each night. This probably is when a person i live with leaves (the door is pretty noisy), apart from that: zero for the rest of the sleeping duration. Audio level kurtosis is going crazy however: for about 1-1.5 hours of when i fall asleep its fairly low, after that there are many spikes.. this could result from cars driving down the road, however i find it weird that there is no recording of audio level, but a lot of data for kurtosis

3) I woke up in the early morning after a dream and did the arrow the wrong way.. it would be neat if there was a way to change or delete user events when looking at the graph. That way you could correct events that you inserted by mistake

4) What is the XYZ Activity count? I have seen it in other peoples graphs here in the threat (mine is constant zero). Maybe you could add a little explaination as to what the values mean. Maybe you could make the text on the "Welcome to Graph Viewer" page a little more detailed? This would also be a great place to give the user some info on how to interpret the graph

Keep up the good work! This is pretty awesome and has lots of potential i think

Forget my questions regarding XYZ Activity count.. fairly obvious now that i think about it. Same for the sleep score problem, i realize I should have read the material on your website before asking stupid questions

I guess my problems resulted from the fact that
a) I only did the quick calibartion
b) I left my Galaxy S i9000 in a case i got for protection.. this probably also absorbed some of the shocks that the app is trying to measure.. so maybe that would be another suggestion: Remind stupid people like me to take their phone out of any protective casings etc so that you can gather the "original" data

Now I have run the extended calibration a few times to see whats going on and to understand how the app works.. also looked at the List-view when I let it collect data the way it is supposed to during nights. During that I have attempted to fiddle with the R value a little bit, but not much, as I dont really understand where I should be looking for the results.. i put it back to the standard values.
On that occasion i noticed a bug: When you want to change a value, in the text field it sais 0000400 for example, not 0,000400. In order to effectively change the value you have to delete the entire value and write 0.000500 for example. Notice that you need to put a . not a , eventhough the textfield displays the value with a comma. Somehow it also is very reluctant to accept changes.. specifically i changed the value once, wanted to change it back and now it wont work.. Just wanted to let you know.

Anyway, I uninstalled in app, rebooted my phone and reinstalled it, just to be sure everything is back to normal.

I will try to calibrate properly and see if it works now

One more question about the sampling rate.. the text below the button is cut off because its too long to display, so it only says "Picking lower value may improve performance on". I suppose this goes on with "older phones" or something? So picking Fast is generally the best option if your phone is fast? I think the Samsung Galaxy is rather fast, so I should probably put this on fast right? Just checking to make sure

I never thought I'd get a smart phone. But I think I have a reason to now, with this and IAmCoder's apps.

Hey guys and girls,

I've been very busy at work, where I'm doing iPhone development. This leaves very little time for android development. Once I settle down, I'll take a look at the app again. Right now the development effort is on hold.

To answer a few questions:
1) the ! in the notification bar - this is a bug I know of, and the way to avoid it is to use "exit" menu item on the clock screen. Alternatively, you may terminate the sound analyzer services from your android settings>applications>running services
2) Fedd, you are seeing commas as a decimal delimiter as a result of regional settings. The internal logic would try to process the number expecting commas. This article has info on how to adjust the R , it is a 2 step process.
3) If you are concerned about cell phone radiation, put the phone in airplane mode (I have to hold the power button on my phone to see this option)

The sampling rate asks the device to provide accelerometer updates at normal or fast pace. Normal is ~1200 times per minute on my HTC HD2, fast is 2400 . In general, it does not matter which option you pick, as the major body movements will be detected either way.

Since my post the app has been working great, producing some pretty realistic looking data.. i just had to lower the threshold value a bit.
Now I just have to get my self to wake up and make use of the user-events function so that I can adjust the reminders.

Anyway, thank you for the answers to my questions.. i kinda suspected the thing with the comma just wanted to point out a "bug"

Thanks again for all the effort you put into this so far!
Once you continue the development: You know where to find beta testers hehe

Is this only for Android? I have iPod Touch

yeah its only for android. no iphone version so far.

After working in iPhone development for a couple months, it appears that the same level of data would be difficult to achieve in an iPhone app. Sure, iPhone looks very pretty and its multimedia capabilities are good. But a lot of things that make the lucid dreaming app possible, such as background services are missing from iPhone. For all intents and purposes, an iPhone is a single app system, there's very little support for background activity (hence the long battery life).

if there will be an iPhone app, it would surely cost around 6$ for the same level of sophistication (if that is possible). There are just too many obstacles to overcome and BS to deal with when developing an apple product

My phone won't calibrate.. can you help?

This app looks amazing. o_o
I really need to get myself a droid.
I'm still using an old symbian s60v5. :/

Originally Posted by Ev

After working in iPhone development for a couple months, it appears that the same level of data would be difficult to achieve in an iPhone app. Sure, iPhone looks very pretty and its multimedia capabilities are good. But a lot of things that make the lucid dreaming app possible, such as background services are missing from iPhone. For all intents and purposes, an iPhone is a single app system, there's very little support for background activity (hence the long battery life).

if there will be an iPhone app, it would surely cost around 6$ for the same level of sophistication (if that is possible). There are just too many obstacles to overcome and BS to deal with when developing an apple product

The joys of open source summarized in a single post.

I am giving the app another chance since I had to factory reset my phone. So far, I am loving the info sheet when you click the I. So much information right there. My problem is my Droid Inc. hangs on the extended calibration, and the quick calibration ends with it back on the info sheet or the settings page, not the clock. Any idea what I am doing wrong? On the extended calibration, it stopped with a full bar and I had 4 graphs. Was I wrong in stopping it?

I didn't review last night to see if I had any data, so I'll check that shortly.

Also, would it be beneficial if I wait and collect a week's worth of data first?

Suggestion: What if there was an optional setting where throughout the day it used Puffin's Sat, pending her approval?

The idea would be that randomly every two hours (not exact each time), you get a notification to do an awareness practice.