4 year long Lucid Dream suddenly ends, badly. Nothing has been the same.

**Dorlishnek** · 08-31-2012 04:39 AM

Let me start by introducing myself and my reason for coming here. If you don't care about the background of this story then you can skip this first bit. For almost as long as i can remember I've been able to identify when I am dreaming. In the early years of my youth i found out that i was able to end dreams at will, this helped me escape several nightmares that plagued me in my sleep. When i was in about 8th grade a dream started that didn't end for several years. I haven't told many people about the events of this dream, as they were always of a grim nature and i never felt comfortable sharing. I met this guy at work about 2 years ago and we became pretty good friends. One day we were hanging out and ended up having a really deep discussion about dreams. He was also a Lucid Dreamer. He told me about a series of dreams that ended tragically. It was almost horrifying, because his tale almost matched the events of my dream exactly. He had no idea I had a similar experience. I've given it a lot of thought and I decided to try and see if i can find others who have shared a similar experience. So, without further delay i will tell my tale.

I was in middle school, 8th grade to be more specific, when a series of dreams started. The first night i remember entering the dream to a familiar sight. I was in the parking lot of a mall i used to go to a lot before i moved to the town i was currently in. There were no other people in sight, i was alone. I looked up and instantly realized i was in a dream, as it was night and in my dreams the sky is always blue. So i decided to walk around and take in the sights. I turned the corner of the mall right before the sidewalk that leads to the door begins and i see this man standing about half way between me and the door. He wore a dark green jacket and wore blue jeans. Above all though i noticed he didn't have a face. This man began chasing me. I looked back and noticed he was holding a knife. It was at this point that i ended the dream. The next night i was greeted by the same man who began chasing me again. This time i decided to fight back instead of run in fear, i ended up killing this man.

That guy was only the beginning. The next night two men showed up, whenever i found a way to get rid of them one more person would show up in the next dream. I became overwhelmed in just a few more days and i ran out of options. I willed to be stronger, and i became stronger. I found that if i had the will to make something happen, it would. I became capable of incredible strength, flight, and eventually was even capable of releasing powerful bursts of energy from my palms. As a kid i loved the show Dragon Ball Z, many of my powers that i obtained in my dreams resembled the abilities of a Saiyan.

It got to the point where i was slaying armies and nations of faceless men effortlessly. Every night i was presented with masses of people who were out for my blood, and every night i struck them down. At some point i began to become aware of a presence in my dream. It inspired fear in me even though i couldn't see it. Eventually i began to catch glimpses of a massive black beast. I guess it stood about 12-14ft tall with hulking shoulders and with kind of a hunched figure. If i stared at it for too long it would disappear along with the menacing aura that accompanied it.

One night i entered the dream again. This time there was nobody, not a single person was there to kill me. I knew something was wrong. I was then forced to the ground and tethered there by what felt like chains but they were invisible. In spite of how incredibly powerful i had become.. I was powerless to move. Shadow people appeared all around me and with them i could feel the presence of that monster, though it never showed itself. The shadow people knelt down all around me and revealed what looked like slabs of sharpened metal, really crude looking. These blades were heated to the point of glowing, they never seemed to lose heat. Then they all took turns shaving off slabs of my flesh. I could feel intense pain, and i couldn't end the dream no matter how much i willed it. They tore me apart. When they were done... All that remained of me was a head connected to the torso of my body. No limbs. My body had been completely gutted. No flesh on my face, nothing. Just a husk. Then i guess i was allowed to wake up.

I woke up sweating and in a panic. My mind felt broken, it was hard for me to process thought and I can't even remember if i was even able to say anything that made sense. After that night i stopped dreaming, or at least stopped being able to remember them. My nights became extremely restless, and still are. Roughly 8 or 10 months after that night i started dreaming again. Only.. It wasn't the same. I could barely remember them. After a little more time i was able to recognize i was dreaming again, but i completely lost the ability to leave at will. Some dreams i become ultra aware of my dream state and try to do the things i used to. I can't fly anymore. I can only hover over the ground for a few seconds before falling. Nothing is the same.

I don't know what really happened.. That thing felt foreign. Like it wasn't meant to be in my dream. I almost feel as though my ultra active dream state attracted the attention of something, and it ended me. The same happened to my friend. Almost exactly. People hunted him, he killed them. More showed up, he took care of them too. His powers were more like that of a Vampire Lord. You know, the master of the undead crazy powerful spell casting type. He became aware of a menacing presence over time. One night it attacked him. Only instead of resembling a monster it was a just a big man, and instead of the shadow people it attacked him itself. It beat him to the point where he was certain it was going to kill him, then he woke up. To my knowledge he hasn't remembered a dream since. This thing shared a few features between our dreams. It was large, menacing, powerful in build, and had deep red eyes. The dreams themselves shared a few events. We started out getting hunted by a single man, over time as we killed these men more would show up. Both dreams reached a climactic and horrifying end. Resulting in the loss of our ability to either dream or recall our dreams.

If one person shares my story, i figured why wouldn't more? A friend pointed me in the direction of this forum, I've read some posts and decided to share my tale. So please, provide any insight you possibly can. If anything I'm looking for answers.

Thank you for your time.

**Nerq** · 08-31-2012 05:44 AM

Wow... I'm nearly speechless after reading this Dorlishnek. This might sound awefully far fetched to some people, but I wouldn't be suprised if some kind of external source of consciousness entered your dreams and found your weakness. I can't say that I've had anything like the series of events you described, they seem so impossible to me. But from a desendant of Christian upbringing, I've had problems in my past with extreme episodes of 'Demon' like entities interfearing in my dreams. Demons are what I personally called them, I don't want to start a religious debate with anyone in this thread. But I remember feeling a presence for a number of years in certain parts of my old house, and in other places and know literally tons of people that have felt exactly what I'm talking about. Every so often, that same presence would become very apparent in my dreams, making me completely defenseless. Literally to the point where I would be in dreams, and an invisible force would be 'physically' swinging my body around and throwing me like a rag doll as I screamed and couldn't become conscious until it was over. Everyone I've talked to has had different horrible experiences with these things, so the reason why I relate them to this is because.. maybe that series of dreams and events is how something saw that it could personally break you down.
Those things didn't stop me having dreams altogether, but I did lose a ton of confidence that allowed me power in my dreams. I believe that the dream state can be a dangerous place whenever these factors come into play, because of our minds ability to see, feel, and hear the fear in our minds. As for the huge chain series of that continueing and growing dream... I can't imagine how that's possible. I hope someone with the same experience reads this thread for you sake, and I hope you can get back into the dream state and maybe even overcome that thing if it comes back. Good luck, if you'd like- keep in touch.

**TheRealTenman** · 08-31-2012 07:50 AM

Try looking up shadow beings-people.

I don't know much about them but it may shed some light on the situation.
Take it with a pinch of salt though... Way to many tinfoil hat conspiracy theorists.

**InverseScenery** · 08-31-2012 05:38 PM

I can't believe this. I registered just to post this. I've had a frighteningly similar dream, only that the men hunting were not trying to stab me, but to strangle me. I didn't grow stronger, but I learned to hide and protect myself from them by creating landscapes and cities with safe spots. This continued for 2 years until the door to one of the rooms I was hiding in broke open and hundreds of crows flew in. They pecked the skin and meat off my bones, and I woke up. I couldn't remember my dreams for something like 10 months, but eventually managed to become lucid again. I can fly, but I can't create anything anymore. I can't manipulate the landscape, I can only do things to myself or other people. In my case, that "looming presence" was the sun/moon. Whichever celestial body it was, I always felt like it was staring at me, and I could only escape it by waking up.

This is amazing, I didn't think it was anything special. I thought I just freaked myself out with weird LDs.

**Dorlishnek** · 09-01-2012 05:49 AM

There were more than just knives. As the number of men grew they began to wield more complex weapons. I saw all sorts of traditional weapons such as swords, maces, spears. Eventually they started wielding fire arms which too grew more complex and deadly as i passed through the dream night by night.

It seems like we handled our assailants in different ways. I ran but soon decided to fight back, ultimately resulting in me becoming more powerful over time. My power seemed to reach a plateau, I didn't grow any stronger because the faceless men could only harm me for so long. I could tear apart waves of them with the flick of my wrist. I won't lie, it didn't take long for me to begin enjoying killing them. For some reason the fact that they had no face could only throw me off for so long, eventually that fact made it easier to kill them. I was powerful and very proud of my strength. It ended me by chaining me down, leaving me powerless.

Your climax however.. It does resemble how our dreams came to an end. It was sudden and of a dark nature. You chose to run, and then to keep running. It would only make sense that the way it would end you is to surprise you in a place you thought was safe.

I would like to do some more searching, i want to find more people and see if i can't find a pattern. I'm very convinced that we shared a similar experience, and just maybe they are related. I'm not saying anything for sure, I'm just thinking of what could be. Since the end of my Lucid Dreaming I've done a lot of soul searching, a lot of looking for answers. I'm also very convinced that what attacked me and my friend could very well be a being from a different plane of existence. I won't say "demon", as i am not religious. But something that is not of our reality. I have been throwing this theory together for a little while now, and the fact that you found my post excites me even more. It's terrifying to think i may be right, but the fact that you shared an experience with so many like attributes is enough to convince me to keep digging for information.

Thank you for your input, if you want to keep in touch just send me a personal message.

**Vortaix** · 09-01-2012 10:52 AM

Don't you realise InverseScenery and you had an exact same dream? First aliens, and now this. Meh. Okay.

I WANT to belive that there are people that can get into our dreams. I really do.

From the scientific point of view : It happened because you didn't face your fears they way you should. You KILLED IT, instead of asking what is its purpose, and WHY does it want to kill you. Then when two of them came, you connected it with the fact, that every time, there will be more and more, and so it happened. When monsters chased me when i was little, i stopped turned around, asked the skeleton "why are you chasing me?" he said "because you are running away." He never chased me again. Killing them won't fix the problem.

From the non-scientific point of view: you both are lucid dreamers, and good ones as well. The guy created landscapes and you could realise you are dreaming most of the time. Which means you were powerful lucid dreamers, and other people didn't like it. Obviously that guy was much stronger than both of you (coming from the fact he could enter your dreams) and wanted to destroy the competition ^^. Which he did. GG.

**JosephGrimm** · 09-04-2012 07:44 PM

Interesting, I have a question, did you ever try to make peace with them?
I mean, wouldn't that work better than just killing them again and again? From what you described it sound as if you were very aware.
So did you ever try that? I really am curious.

**Dorlishnek** · 09-05-2012 02:17 AM

I never did. Keep in mind i was really young when this happened, and by the time i aged into my later high school years and wised up a bit I was too consumed by bloodlust. I actually enjoyed killing them after awhile. Looking back now that I'm 21 it makes sense to ask "why", but the teen me who was clouded by teen angst never thought to stop and ask that very simple question. But, hindsight can only do so much.

**ADEzor** · 09-06-2012 09:42 AM

I had a being which I thought was a bear, walking with two legs occasionally... A huge lump in his back. Totally black shadow monster with bright red eyes. I have never had a moment to take a good look at it.

**Dorlishnek** · 09-06-2012 08:16 PM

Interesting. This thing in my dream did seem to have the build of a bear, though its arms were a little bit more robust than that of a bear. It seemed to have hands too, rather than paws. I got the feeling it had a rather long snout with large teeth, almost like a crocodile or an alligator.

**ADEzor** · 09-07-2012 01:18 PM

Yeah mine was a rather long snouted "bear" creature... the big teeth were almost comical... but there were nothing comical about seeing it

I don't really remember when it ceased to appear in my dreams, That creature was partially the reason I learned to lucid dream... and oh! I also learned to wake up on command. I just had to close my eyes and concentrate on waking myself in the bed. Sometimes it was horrible to hear the creature running towards you like a bull, because waking myself up took few seconds at least.

I still have an acute phobia about it. I got shivers as i tried to google for "shadow bear nightmare"... I was afraid that I might see it.. I dunno, it reminds me of so many nightmares :S

Sometimes the creature has taken a shape of akakabuto from the anime "silver fang"

Spoiler for Here's a pic:

...But the shadow creature thing is fatter than the one in that image

**Glieuaeiel** · 09-11-2012 04:34 AM

Wow, this is a fascinating thread. Let me just say that I'm really glad you shared this story, Dorlishnek. Personally, I tend to think that everything that happens in dreams is created solely from the imagination of the dreamer, so my interpretation would be that part of your mind constructed this idea of a powerful demon-creature to counter your dream powers because it was worried that these dreams were making you overconfident. Or something? Either way, it's a really awesome story. I had no idea that dreams could work like that. It sounds like something out of The Matrix. Wow.

**Spyyko** · 09-11-2012 04:36 AM

I guess I have a relevant story for you...

As a young kid, I would always run away from my nightmares. The shadowy figures that manifested themselves always ended up having their way with me. Yes, I could easily wake up. Unfortunately, I had to be either devoured or decapitated first. Soon enough, I realized that fighting back might not be such a bad idea. I tore apart the many characters which threatened my subconscious; however, there was an arbiter to these dark beings. At first, this invisible entity simply induced feelings of despair and fear every time I shredded a nightmare. Those psychological feelings soon turned into extreme physical pain, and I stopped fighting outright.

I woke up in an office building, in my cubicle. I was the only one in the room. I slowly walked out, through a hallway towards a door, light radiating from the bottom. I opened it, only to come face-to-face with a black alligator on a sandy beach. I was done with the bullshit. I was tired of sucking up to these monsters. Enraged, I jumped on the beast and swiftly snapped its neck.

The second the bone dislodged from the creature's vertebra, I was sucked into a dark realm. This was something I could not control. Laid out on a metal bed, strapped down by adamantine bracings, torturous tools excruciatingly pried at my eyelids, dcapitated my insides, and disemboweled every organ while I laid in both despair and disbelief.

This was a force I could not control. While not nearly as subconsciously advanced as your amazing 4 year-long experiences, these dreams hinted at something: I was either suffering from insane stress at the time (I don't think I was), or there's a darker force to dreams. Something that can damage our subconscious without allowing physical trauma. Yes, I still dream. I actually haven't had a nightmare nearly as intense as the ones in my childhood since then. However, I believe that this was a warning: Never wage a war with your subconscious.

Ask questions first, shoot everyone later.
Find the meaning before kill the messenger.

Amazing dreams you had, this is spectacular that someone has a story even remotely similar to mine. Happy dreaming, hope things get back to normal in your dream routine, man

**GenericUser10621** · 09-14-2012 12:56 AM

Wow, this is fascinating... i've never heard of such a thing. Interesting read though and hope it all works out for you!

**Rlch** · 10-17-2012 07:07 PM

Sounds fake. I mean, everyone has nightmares sometimes, but they are easily overcame in Lucid dreaming if you are brave enough. There is not such things as other people or entities attacking you in your dreams. And not being able to remember dreams or being restless every night... because of a dream? Come on...

Registered in Aug 2012, 4 post.
The fourth guy who posted Aug 2012, 1 post.

I would have sort of believed you if you were a real member of the community. But you are not. The only thing you are doing is scaring the hell out of people without any reason or proof, only your word, which is obviously not enough.

That's at least my opinion, think what you like.

PD.: Yes, I just read it.

**TruthReflection** · 10-23-2012 06:32 AM

This is an interesting topic. I can't say I've had an experience to THAT extreme of a degree, but I have had dreams with a threatening presence. I have seen it on occasion, but it never seems to appear as the same being. It has been a bald man with tattered clothes and a black X tattoo on the back of his head, and an old man with no eyes (empty sockets) wearing a long purple robe and hood. A few others too that I'm having trouble remembering.

**Signet** · 10-23-2012 09:00 AM

Well, I don't know what to say but "thank you!" Thanks for this account of your dreams, as well as all the others here who have given their similar accounts.

As for my contribution, well, you might just want to keep scrolling. I'm a Christian, and while I don't usually chalk up things in dreams to being demonic, that's because I know what demonic activity looks like.
And I'll be honest; this looks a Hell of a lot like it.

Demons are able to torment and even have been know to be able to poses people, and I know from personal experience what they are like when it comes to dreams. A friend of mine has been at odds with a demon since she was young, and I have even seen a dream of hers that looked like what you said (Dorlishnek) about the faceless people having multiplied.

I really feel like a bit of a letdown for you, though, because there aren't really any effective ways to counter truly demonic activity without either the indwelling of the holy spirit or by getting DEEP into demonics for yourself. (As in, radical Satanism.)

Sorry if I'm not much help, but I'll be glad to answer any questions you might have.

**Kyuu** · 10-23-2012 12:22 PM

How exactly was this a 4 year long lucid dream?

**Mirui987** · 10-23-2012 10:06 PM

I'm sure he means that it's series of dreams he had over 4 years that were lucid

**Densetsu** · 10-23-2012 10:35 PM

Last year, I had a dream which lasted for two dream "weeks". In it I had an apartment, different friends, different habits (I even took up smoking). Many of those dream days were spent leaning on the railing of "my" balcony and wondering when I was going to wake up. Of course, this was before I had any sort of lucid control so it was just a very vivid dream.

One of these days, apartment 38D, I will be back. My plants are probably dead by now, though. :\

**Dorlishnek** · 02-10-2013 05:55 AM

I only came to this site because a friend of mine recommended it to me when i finally decided to tell him about what i had gone through. Of course I'm not a long time member, I barely know this community. I'm fairly new to this entire idea of others having dreams like mine, dreams where they can control what they are doing. I thought that was just what dreams were like for a long time. But i know what happened to me wasn't normal.

Lately I've become more powerful in my dreams again. I've finally started to learn how to fly, but this time it seems like fire is my power. I'm fueled by it and it flows from my body when i will it. It isn't completely reliable though. Sometimes it just stops working or the release of power is just pitiful. I can't force myself to wake up still. Though faceless figures and beasts don't show themselves anymore. But paranoia is a major factor for me now. In my dreams i still feel that thing like it's still watching me. Almost like as i recover more of my potential the more attention is paid to me. I don't know to be honest.

**IANtheDrummer** · 02-10-2013 08:13 AM

This story scared the shit out of me but I think what happened to you was a terrible degree of autosuggestion wich ended awfully.

Just don't think about scary stuff and try to think more about the awesome things you can do in lucid dreams.

**Seykloren** · 02-11-2013 10:21 AM

This is not the first time I hear a story like this and usually when I do hear one it always comes (in my case at least) from lucid dreamers who are doing it since they were very young, naturally, without acquiring it or training it when they are older.
What this always looked to me like is basically a dream attack. Your natural affinity and ability attracts entities that want to feed of your energy, but before that they sort of train you, so the energy you give out is stronger - both the good one,as in power confidence, as well as bad ones as in fear, rage,despair. This is what the multiplying of the dream enemies can represent. In order to defeat so many, you focused your dreaming intention to developing abilities in dreams, therefore becoming more stronger. When you reached the satisfying amount, the entity behind this simply defeated you and drained you. The appearance of the dream enemies, in my theory, would have the appearance of something that is troubling you,be it sub or consciously,so it would encourage you to fight them and kill them therefore training yourself. I am not saying this theory is 100% what happened to you, I am just trying to give as much insight as I can.
What I would like to point out (seeing that, by my theory again and in case it is indeed what happened, the entity usualy returns after a time to repeat the process) is some advice. As people allready stated before me, do not kill the enemies. I would suggest developing a tactic to trick them and work on your dream control again so you can end the dream again.
It is ok and a lovely thing to train yourself in your dreams, to develop abilities and do whatever you like, but make sure it is on your terms, never anybody elses, especially if it feels scary,threatening and just plain bad and malicious.
Believe in yourself and believe in the power of good energies.
Besides this,what I can see this dream representing is a huge conflict you have with yourself that simply impacts on you so badly.
I am very glad to read at your last post that you are regaining confidence and using your dreams again and I wish you the best of luck! If you have any questions about my theory please feel free to contact me and I will help you in any way I can.

**rastro13** · 02-14-2013 06:48 AM

Seems to me like you are battling your subconscious. Like the person above said. From what I have learned, and if it were me I would try to master my fear of it instead of fighting it and ask it what it wants or what it represents. You know it just kinda seems like when people talk about meeting their dream guides or talking to their subconscious in their lucid dreams. And if it is your subconscious then it would surely seem "unbeatable" because it is actually you...or part of you. I would try to accept that and try to overcome my fear of it and I bet it would turn out to actually be you...or on your side. Just what I took from this

**BjStrife** · 02-14-2013 08:01 AM

That story reminds me of the Jedi Exile from KotOR

. So hopefully, after being cast down and drained of power, you are going to win the next time

.

Anyway, do you remember any serious issues troubling you at that time? I would say it was possibly something stuck in your subconsciousness and the more you were trying to avoid it (by killing it), the more "desperate" it grew. And since you had 4 years to listen to it and deal with it, but you refused, the "problem" had no other way to get your attention than literally tear you apart. Like others said, you should listen to it next time, or, if you are confident enough, maybe try to gain control over the "entity", or at least it's henchmen?

Whether it was some external entity, I can't say. I have no experience with such dreams and beings.