Thread: What is your definition of Freedom - Is a Utopia possible

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

We used to have so much more leisure time.... Even in the recent past.

Define what you mean by "recent."

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

You sacrifice for your family don't you? That is not fascism, that is family.

Such sacrifice is voluntary. No one is compelled to do it. If you want to persuade others to sacrifice "for the greater good," then I wouldn't be so aggressive in my statements. Yet you say "must" and with so many idealists who want to make the world a better place, they often turn to compulsion because persuasion isn't always effective or as effective as they would like.

Originally Posted by Dannon Oneironaut

You sacrifice to the state right now. In fact you probably sacrifice more to the state than you are able to sacrifice for your family. Do you live in a town, or a city, or in the country? This topic seems a bit over your head since you either deliberately put a spin on my words or that is the only position you can understand.

The injustices experienced now is not justification for their existence. Many people's rights are aggressed against in the world today, but that doesn't make aggression acceptable. Libertarians aim at what should be, irregardless of what is.