When they talk about the "fire" in Hell, that means that fire of your guilt of all the mistakes you made. My personal (and churches) beliefs say that pretty much all of you will make it to heaven in some degree. |
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I think we are all the same "existence" RadiantZeal, no matter the label you give it. The same stuff that causes the curvature of space time, detectable as oscillations that can be measured (nothing could "move" through space time without oscillating, and so if the moving "stops" it is undetectable... or I wonder if it stops, it no longer is/exists. Hmm, pretty much brings me back to thinking you can never reach 0 K because that would inherently, I think, mean that existence has ceased to exist), nothing more and nothing less. We are. |
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When they talk about the "fire" in Hell, that means that fire of your guilt of all the mistakes you made. My personal (and churches) beliefs say that pretty much all of you will make it to heaven in some degree. |
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That is one of the great things about life. What would it be like to go to sleep and never wake up. After you think about that long enough, you will be met with another question. How did it feel to wake up without previously living. |
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The idea of nonexistence after death is founded upon the superstition that we exist in the first place. To dispel anxiety about nonexistence, one must first come to grips with the tenuous, conditional, and largely illusory nature of what we are here and now. Identifying with the running commentary between your ears is a choice, and neither an adaptive nor a realistic one. |
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If you have a sense of caring for others, you will manifest a kind of inner strength in spite of your own difficulties and problems. With this strength, your own problems will seem less significant and bothersome to you. By going beyond your own problems and taking care of others, you gain inner strength, self-confidence, courage, and a greater sense of calm.Dalai Lama
[Shrugs] In death, technically you still exist--just not as a living organism. In that sense, being dead is not the same as never being born. |
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You are not your thoughts...
So then you've chosen to ignore the running commentary between your ears (aka, thought)? Wow. It's amazing you've learned to read and write, much less managed to post on a website, where just being here is an admission that you are not ignoring that commentary; especially because "here" in this case is a dreaming website, where identifying with that running commentary could be seen as the core to successful LD'ing. This ignoring of thought doesn't seem like something that can be compartmentalized, either; it is all or nothing, right? Particularly when you deem existence a superstition, right? |
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Not that I know what respond that Taosaur might come up with to your questions. But since I liked his post because that I agree with what he said. Then at least I will answear this one from what I've read out of your post. |
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You are not your thoughts...
Arguing? Yes. Pondering? Not quite, not in my opinion. How is it illogical to be curious about something and to legitimately try to come to grips with the fact that one day you are going to die? To think you know what will happen is illogical, but I see more harm in deciding not to think about something at all than to think about it too much. Being content is what stifles humanity's progress. If you didn't wonder, if nobody wondered, what kind of world would we live in today? This particular subject is one that is a primary motivator that drives a lot of your behaviors and thoughts. To ignore it seems like running away from your problems to me--it's unnatural in my case. I can't not wonder about death and come to some understanding about it. It's important just because it makes so many decisions for you. If you don't control any fear, drive to die, or negativity that comes from the thought of death, you are bound to make mistakes in your life you will surely regret. |
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Insofar as you assumed "ignore" must be the only possible alternative to "identify with," yes, you misunderstood me. The only way to cease identifying with the so-called "stream of consciousness" and replace it with a stream of mindfulness is to pay close and genuine attention attention to it. |
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If you have a sense of caring for others, you will manifest a kind of inner strength in spite of your own difficulties and problems. With this strength, your own problems will seem less significant and bothersome to you. By going beyond your own problems and taking care of others, you gain inner strength, self-confidence, courage, and a greater sense of calm.Dalai Lama
^^ I think I'll go with DreamyBear and confirm that I didn't understand what you originally posted, Taosaur. |
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Hmm, I am not ready to dismiss what Taosaur is saying, Sageous. Or not quite. Not sure whether this is what he is saying or whether I am spinning off on a different crazy tangent: |
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You may say I'm a dreamer.
But I'm not the only one - John Lennon
^^ I wasn't dismissing, I was disagreeing, JoannaB; there is a difference. |
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"you will not transform this house of prayer into a house of thieves"
@Sageous: sorry to misunderstand your point. |
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You may say I'm a dreamer.
But I'm not the only one - John Lennon
1). When living creatures die, at the very least their physical remains still exist--just in a completely inanimate state. |
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I agree with the first statement. I disagree that it should lead to that second statement. |
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The worst thing that can happen to a good cause is, not to be skillfully attacked, but to be ineptly defended. - Frédéric Bastiat
I try to deny myself any illusions or delusions, and I think that this perhaps entitles me to try and deny the same to others, at least as long as they refuse to keep their fantasies to themselves. - Christopher Hitchens
Formerly known as BLUELINE976
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You are not your thoughts...
It's not a comfortable illusion. It's the source of all discomfort, suffering and anxiety in your existence. Thinking about letting go of it is frightening and painful, but actually letting go of it just means relaxing into what and where you really are--the entirety of what and where you are, even if the explicitly "you" portion becomes so vanishingly small as to, in effect, not exist. |
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If you have a sense of caring for others, you will manifest a kind of inner strength in spite of your own difficulties and problems. With this strength, your own problems will seem less significant and bothersome to you. By going beyond your own problems and taking care of others, you gain inner strength, self-confidence, courage, and a greater sense of calm.Dalai Lama
I've been wondering, is it truly possible to detach yourself from your identity? It seems possible in theory, but I feel like it wouldn't be possible in practice. Because as much as you can say, I am not a person... That's what you are. You still have to wake up every day and face the obstacles. I do like to not be me, once in a while but it only works when I'm not in the middle of something super important. |
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No, it isn't. Not for me, anyway, and it is certainly not the "source of all discomfort, etc" in my existence (seriously?). If it is for you, that's fine, but please don't assume that the things that bother you necessarily bother everyone else |
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I haven't read everyone's responses, only the OP's, but I've gotten a good chuckle at some of the responses. |
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"If we doubted our fears instead of doubting our dreams, imagine how much in life we'd accomplish." ~Joel Brown
"Your background and circumstances may have influenced who you are, but you are responsible for who you become." ~Darren Hardy
Goals:
-Become Lucid in every dream every night
-Perfect the time dilation watch
-Continue to have a dream plan for most of my lucid dreams
If I understand, things are just as they are. |
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