Using Caffeine as a Trigger

**Xanous** · 02-27-2013 11:30 PM

Purpose Looking for participants.

I am looking for participants to join my on going study and try to determine the causes of success and failure. I have to say that if you are sensitive to caffeine or you don't regularly ingest caffeine during the day then you should consider another form of LDS.I have had several successes using a small dose of caffeine as a lucid trigger. When I started in Dec. of last year I recored about 10 successes with WBTB and a few sips of strong coffee. Later I switched to cutting caffeine pills to get a more accurate record of caffeine amounts. Eventually my success rate dropped significantly. The only reason I could think of was that I wore myself out as I began to lose sleep every night. The biggest issue with using caffeine as a trigger is that I would often experience some insomnia about 1 - 1.5 hours after the dose. I began to lower my dose to 50-100MG Caffeine and that seems to significantly reduce it. I will continue trials and post successes and failures here. I encourage anyone interested to do the same.

But please, be smart and use caution. Listen to your body.

Method

WBTB

Usually after 4 - 5 hours of sleep do a WBTB. Due to possible insomnia I suggest taking your dose 2 hours before your desired wake time. A longer WBTB is preferred so if I want to do a 30 minute WBTB I get up 2.5 hours before my wake time. At 2 hours before my wake time I take a dose of caffeine and promptly go back to bed and do a quick induction technique.

My preferred techniques include, SSILD, MILD and possibly WILD. WILD is one I haven't tested as much but with a low enough dose I can see the mild wakefulness being useful.

Currently I only test caffeine probably once or twice per week. Anything beyond that is tiring and unhealthy, in my experience. As you'll notice, I included 100-200MG B6 with some of my caffeine doses. While I think it increases vividness I don't feel that it is an actual trigger, at least for me. Really, this is more about caffeine and not B6. I occasionally included some melatonin to combat insomnia but I am trying to get away from that as it interferes with REM.

Also, since REM is ideal for lucid dreams and the time to peak plasma is about 1 hour it would be ideal to actually be in REM around that time. According to my trials, success is highly dependent on this. Most of my LD's from caffeine have ended around 1 - 1.5 hours. I am not saying this is completely necessary as I haven't fully explored caffeine WILD but I think it would be preferred. Too a lot if it depends on tolerance and dosage. That's something for the individual to play around with.

Technical Data

Time to Peek Plasma - (the time it takes to reach highest levels) approx. 1 hour
Elimination Half-Life - (the time required for the body to eliminate one-half of the total amount of caffeine) – 5 - 6 hours but can vary greatly

I could cut and paste effects and why or how it works but its best to just go to Wikipedia - Caffeine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
I will probably add just the important information along with my own thoughts later.

Originally Posted by CanisLucidus

Thomas Yuschak's Caffeine Research
Thomas Yuschak (well-known for his work in Lucid Dreaming Supplements and the author of "Advanced Lucid Dreaming") was doing some research into how caffeine could be used as a lucid aid. The focus here was on combining caffeine with a classic galantamine + choline trigger in order to increase its effectiveness. This could be a nice resource for this thread.

http://lucidconsciousness.com/wp-con...cid-Dreams.pdf