Its time to admit evolution is a fraud

**Deanstar** · 09-08-2014 04:08 AM

Originally Posted by Universal Mind

So your argument is that the Bible says it's true?

My argument is, how would an apple tree start growing out of the ground, without any genetic information of it's seed. Say there is no plantlife a seed is a very definite object that contains very specific complex DNA information. How does it grow out of the ground by itself. This argument goes for litrally every living thing, not just plants with seeds. Things that reproduce require certain genetic information. You can't make a leap from chemicals, to things like plants, bacteria, animals, humans. They are distinct categories of things with completely seperate DNA.

I have faith in the bible, yes. But the topic is that evolution is a fraud based on what we know already in science.

Originally Posted by juroara

Tigers and bears are MAMMALS. Thats why they look different from INSECTS.

Are dolphins FISHES?

You just proved my point. They are different from insects. Clearly you can't use fruit flies to prove something about mammals. Anything that lives in the sea such as whales and dolphins, they cannot survive on land can they? What does it make them? It doesn't make them something like a Lion, cause a lion can't live in the sea either. Amazing isn't it what happens to your brain when you want to believe in evolution after years of getting it thumped into you

Just stop. Your argument is shameful. All it does is broadcast to the whole of dreamviews that you fundamentally lack education. I don't know how old you are, I don't know where you live, what school you go to. And I'm not out to make you cry, because for all I know you could be 12. In that case, Id forgive you.

that's quite funny considering you have about the logic of a 12 year old in this argument.

Insects have eyes. Insects have hearing. Insects have mouths and tongues. Insects have brains. Insects have organs.

It depends what type of insect. What type of organs would an Ant have. What brain. A earthworm could be considered a type of insect and does it have eyes or a brain? Does a snail have brains, organs or tongue? What about a lady beetle. I mean if you are going to go through all the insects, we would be here for a long time.

Insects have sex, as male and female. Insects lay eggs. Just like fish. Just like amphibians. Just like reptiles. Just like birds.

you are going on a massive rant about insects for no reason. Cause it's obvious how silly it is to try and say different groups of fruit flies prove about evolution.

This is not a debate.

It's a comedy.

**juroara** · 09-08-2014 04:18 AM

o_O

yeah

I'm just gonna sail my boat over the edge now. Lucky for me my world is round!

**Darkmatters** · 09-08-2014 05:09 AM

Yep. We can't deny it anymore people. He's presented his evidence and the verdict is in. There's just no getting around the logic of it.

Its time to admit ~~evolution~~ Creationism is a fraud

**Descensus** · 09-08-2014 05:41 AM

All insects are animals, but not all animals are insects. Pretty basic logic there.

**EbbTide000** · 09-08-2014 05:44 AM

???

In Gods Creation all animals were vegetarian, 100%. I think the first creation, were god created His Heavenly Host was on this planet

but

none of the 7 catagories of angels had physical bodies (and still don't). But they were on this planet, in a non physical dimension.

I believe those totally vegetarian animals were part of of gods second creation and are in a similar, non physical dimention on Earth.

Genesis Chapter 1

Verse 1) - In the beginning God created the*heaven*and the earth. (Big bang and Heavenly Host)

Verse 2) - And the earth was without form,
and void;

(War in Heaven and one third of angels fall out of original dimension)
and*darkness*was upon the face of the*deep.

And theSpirit*of God moved upon the face of the waters.

(...)

Verse 30) -

And to every*beast*of the earth,
and to every fowl of the air,
and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth,
wherein there is life,
I have given every green*herb*for meat: and it was so.

Maybe through dreams and synchronicities god will walk us through the night to some place green.

♥♥♥

Jimmie Rodgers - Someplace Green: Jimmie Rodgers - Someplace Green - YouTube

♥♥♥

Lyrics

The good Lord made man, then he rested for a little while
Said look what I've done, ain't he pretty, then he cracked a smile
I'll watch him grow, I'll hear him talk, learn to love and fight
But when he's had his fill of these I'll walk him through the night

To someplace green (someplace green)
Someplace nice (someplace nice)
Someplace that I (ooh-ooh) call paradise
Growin' greener in the rain
Waitin' there for man to claim

The good Lord looked down on the earth one afternoon and frowned
Said man ain't learned an awful lot since I carved him out of ground
He's built a lot of steeples of clay and rocks and sand
But he hasn't learned to get along with his fellow man

And someplace green (someplace green)
Someplace nice (someplace nice)
Someplace that I (ooh-ooh) call paradise
Is growin' greener in the rain
Waitin' there for man to claim

The good Lord's been around a while, he'll turn a tee at least
And I guess he'll be around a while, when time and tide have ceased
Lookin' down from somewhere, tryin' hard to find
If man has earned his paradise the other side of time

And someplace green (someplace green)
Someplace nice (someplace nice)
Someplace that he calls paradise
Is growin' greener in the rain
Waitin' there for man to claim
Yes growin' green, green, green in the rai-ai-ain
Waitin' there for man to claim

**Denziloe** · 09-08-2014 10:22 AM

Originally Posted by Deanstar

I call them insects because that's their category.....By your logic, tigers and bears can also be insects because they part of the same group of animals. I don't think so.

What probably happened in this thread.

**StephL** · 09-08-2014 01:14 PM

Uuups - okay guys and gals - I'll come back later today, I guess - caught myself some nastily evolved bug with fever and just crawled out of bed way past noon, still quite shook from all the super-intense dreaming that it brought me.
See ya later - sorry for that - I WILL BE BACK!! :sleepysteph:

**DeviantThinker** · 09-08-2014 02:20 PM

Huh? Anyone know why he got banned? I mean he's a troll and all but he did keep most of it to his own threads unless if there are activities of his that I didn't pick up on.
Any moderators here to help clarify things?

**OpheliaBlue** · 09-08-2014 03:28 PM

He got banned for accumulating enough infraction points for a 1 month ban.

**DeviantThinker** · 09-08-2014 03:35 PM

Ah, thanks for clarifying. I guess I'm sort of surprised that I never got any infraction points considering the caustic tone of some of my messages to him, not that I'm complaining or anything.
I will not ask for further details since it is none of my business.

Just wanted to make sure that he was not banned by some disgruntled atheist mod for disgruntled atheist reasons.

**OpheliaBlue** · 09-08-2014 04:53 PM

My bad it was a perma ban, for the same reason of earning all the infraction points a member can earn.

And I don't mind folks asking, because I know it can appear on the outside that a member got banned for arguing with other members in a thread. That can look scary because then everyone is suddenly "oh shit am I next? I argued too!" But we're so not like that here. One has to be very dedicated and put significant effort into getting permanently banned from DV.

**Box77** · 09-08-2014 05:07 PM

Talking about bans (Sorry, I don't have much time, I'm making pancakes again

)

Secular triumph as government bans creationism from free schools and academies - Education

**dutchraptor** · 09-08-2014 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by DeviantThinker

That was me. I think people should stop posting on this thread. Let this become his echo chamber. By spending time here, we are diverting attention and hits from more fruitful threads.

He is either trolling or hopelessly wilfully ignorant. Either way, engaging him in a scientific context is a waste of calories.

Remember like two weeks ago when all my posts towards deanstar sounded like this, some people liked them, others thought they were harsh for not giving him a chance......It only takes one experience with a troll to recognize them.

**DeviantThinker** · 09-08-2014 07:09 PM

I will be sure to take into account your superior experience in the handling of trollkind in the future, Mr. Raptor.

Now I suggest that this thread be locked. It has run it's course and the last thing we need is for someone to necro it back to life.