Thread: How to have an Instant WILD

No, it isn't astral projection. Michael Raduga doesn't believe in astral projection as a separate phenomenon. Essentially, Mr Raduga believes that OBEs, astral projection, near death experiences and even alien abductions are all the same thing - lucid dreams, but he calls them "The phase".

So, I applied these techniques throughout September. I tried them on each Wednesday night, Friday night, Saturday and Sunday. The other nights I just went to bed normally with no intention to LD or attempt to LD. I couldn't follow the schedule as religiously as I would've hoped, because I caught a weird stomach bug and trying to get through the day and night without shitting my pants became a priority for a bit. Anyhow, here's the results:

"Accidental" DILDS (Where I realised I was dreaming in a dream): 2
LDs where I woke up and "left my body": 2
LDs where I woke up and failed at "leaving the body" then used the cycle of techniques: 0

So, 4 LDs. Reasonably pleased with that. It is worth noting that a new guidebook by Michael Raduga is due out very soon. I'll be a good student and read and memorise that, then let you know if I do any experiments.

Originally Posted by Bobblehat

It is worth noting that a new guidebook by Michael Raduga is due out very soon. I'll be a good student and read and memorise that, then let you know if I do any experiments.

Its out now and a good edition:

New Book

Originally Posted by mcwillis

Its out now and a good edition:

New Book

I've very interested in the "forced falling asleep" approach. That approach is fairly new to me and I'm looking forward to trying that when time is being a bit kinder.

Originally Posted by Bobblehat

I've very interested in the "forced falling asleep" approach. That approach is fairly new to me and I'm looking forward to trying that when time is being a bit kinder.

ahh cheers for the reminder that was a quite useful method last time i tried it

Originally Posted by mcwillis

Its out now and a good edition:

New Book

I have to say that this is a much more concise and easily understood guide than the previous e-book, I'm impressed This may be useful.

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

I have to say that this is a much more concise and easily understood guide than the previous e-book, I'm impressed This may be useful.

Yes, the new edition is impressive. More research and seminar results has resulted in a much more informative new edition of the book.

Thank you for introduce such book for LD.
I'm not good at WILDing for a long time so this would be good help for me.

This works I was attempting to WILD and fell asleep and woke up not knowing it and heard loud tinnitus and a wa woosh noise and then bam, had an obe for like 5 seconds, my first one.

So from another perspective (outside of the school of out-of-body travel context), would this technique be considered an OBE or, instead, a sort of DEILD variation? I'm a bit confused.

Originally Posted by 1234567

So from another perspective (outside of the school of out-of-body travel context), would this technique be considered an OBE or, instead, a sort of DEILD variation? I'm a bit confused.

If you perform the instructions for indirect techniques you may have a regular WILD, or you may be able to leave your body. You can use indirect techniques after exiting a dream but that isn't necessary as you can succeed after having say only one minute of sleep. The important thing is performing indirect techniques immediately upon waking from sleep.

I was wondering would this method would work if I wake up an 30-60 min (about 8-8:30)before my usual wake time? Because I usually need to get up at 6:30 (I need to get ready for school), so weekends are my only option for lucid dreaming. And I don't want to wake up at 6 o'clock because on weekend I get a chance to actually sleep without annoying alarm at 6 o'clock.

Originally Posted by Elaol

I was wondering would this method would work if I wake up an 30-60 min (about 8-8:30)before my usual wake time? Because I usually need to get up at 6:30 (I need to get ready for school), so weekends are my only option for lucid dreaming. And I don't want to wake up at 6 o'clock because on weekend I get a chance to actually sleep without annoying alarm at 6 o'clock.

You may have to go to bed a lot earlier school nights. As an example, go to bed at 9pm. Wake up at 3am. Stay awake for 3 to 45 before falling asleep again. Use the next two to three hours to catch the times when you awaken naturally to practice indirect techniques before getting up properly at 6.30am.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

I woke up and immediately applied "Phantom Wiggling" on my left arm for five seconds and my dream-arm was moving freely. I could at this point have had an OBE but I wanted a lucid dream.

Enjoy...

Hi, im new to LD so apologize me.

can you explain me how do you decide to have a lucid dream instead of OBE?

i am reading Raduga book and he just speaks of phase. is ld and obe the same ? if not how can you choose? ( by not trying to separate from your body, as you sugested ? )



thank you

i appreciate your help

What you choose to accept depends on what you believe, what you actually know depends on your experience.

What I choose to believe and what I write here shouldn't be seen as factual information, but merely as me sharing inspiration.

And I tell you to experience what you define as a dream and explore it, if you intend for that experience to provide you with more, it will be so.

Michael Raduga's words was once my truth (That an aspect our physical reality (our brain) creates the dream world), but then my own experiences started to show me another side of my experiences. That our dream world is created and simulated to us in the exact same way as the dreamworld and that the only difference is the rules and information provided by each reality.

And with repetition this truth is no longer only a belief, it is also my knowledge and my own personal science.

Playing the guitar, drums or a flute can exist as separate physical things with different rules and systems attached to them, and still be the same thing, both the instrument themselves but also the sound they produce, and that is vibration. The instrument appear solid, but they are actually just a massive energy in a very high speed vibration and the sound the instruments produce is also just vibrations called soundwaves, but for our consciousness it is interpreted information.

It is no difference for our dreams, astral projection or what ever, because it is just an focus in another energy vibration of consciousness (depending on what rules there are attached to each term.) Astral projection is often considered as a high frequency. But this frequency are in turn producing an experience, interpreted by our consciousness as information.

So for me lucid dreaming, Astral projection, out of body experiences, remote viewing and even this physical world we call reality, is all the same because they share one thing, it is all experienced by our consciousness and directed by our intent.

But if everything is energy, then our brain works just like a program of 1:s and 0:s in a computer, it's a representation of energy.
And if our brain is energy, then our physical world is also simulated, just like a dream and then why would a dream be less real?

I don't want to brag, but this is not only my little theory. Not even mine at all, Einsten's E=MC^2 means
Energy = Everything and Everything = Energy.
And as physicists try to understand this, they have now found that when we put awareness on something, it is particles, but when we look away and are not putting awareness on it is a wave! (Check out the Double Slit Experiment).

The world's may exist in different frequencies like a radio (And this is the easiest way for me to understand dimensions.), but even though I have tried to make a fun little theory, all that doesn't matter because however or wherever the experience takes place, it's all about what kind of information you can attain, what lesson you can learn and how you can grow from each experience that matters.

But to answer your question, everything you do is navigated by your intent and your thoughts. Especially in what we call the dream world because that is an direct experience of yourself, your ego (subconscious, memories and emotions.) So what you think, consciously or unconsciously WILL not become, but already BE!

So if you want an OBE (However you might define it.) you have to intend for it to be your experience, or if you want a lucid dream, adventures and tools for the ego, then you should intend that. State it out loud while in the experience, or do it as you induce your experience, or both of course.

Here is just a video about dimensions to make this post a little more understandable: Spirit Science 7 ~ Dimensions - YouTube

I hope your question got answered. But if not, just ask again.

Radugas book can be very helpful, but remember that it is your experience that determines your knowledge.

I had an almost instant WILD a week ago by doing something similar to this. I didn't realize I was doing it : It was all natural instink. Thanks for sharing this book. I read it awhile ago, but I forgot the name of the author! XD

It depends on who you ask and how they view the concept of dreaming.

Some will say dreaming occurs on another plane of existence others say it's simply inside the brain. But that old argument goes way back to the basic idea of the afterlife and consciousness being interdependent from the body.

In my honest opinion and from barebones research (really all thats currently available) it is suggestable that a OBE is simply a different form of transition into the dream state. Most OBE'rs don't transition into the dream like normal WILD dreamers, most likein Raduga book will use some form of phantom wiggling or imagined movement, whereas note most WILD'ers will use things like Mnemonic or Visualization.

I believe that this difference in technique stimulates different areas of the brain, of course it would have to use different areas. Visualization comes from different areas of the brain then say Proprioception (the sensation of the body moving) this much is obvious. But when it comes to dreaming we also know that Lucid Dreamers have greater activity in areas of their brain that Non-LDers do, which would be as expected. Most research cites increase beta wave activity in the frontal lobe, among other places that see to corrospond to areas previously believed to be responsible for consciousness.

We know it's possible for the visual part of a dream to form without a dreamer, I suggest the reverse is true aswell, in that it's possible for the dreamer to decouple from reality but to have no visual. Note again that the former tends to occur with visualization techniques and the latter with phantom wiggling. Such an event would likely cause the brain to compensated by drawing reality as it would immediately assume it is still awake.