Thread: How to have an Instant WILD

You must consult with the professional persons to get the appropriate information and solution of your problems. Because any fake information can also thrown you in deep problem.

I've known of this method for a month now. In September I'm going to log my efforts properly so that I've got stats at the end of the month to help give folk an idea of the effectiveness of the technique. I'm looking forward to improving my ability to wake up without moving (will help for recall) but my attempts will have a mixture of positivity and negativity- I managed to apply the techniques on several occasions in August and they didn't make me lucid once.

Getting some good results now. 2 normal DILDs in September and 2 LDs caused by application of the Raduga techniques.

Wait. I have no clue what the lucid F--K this is!
Is this a tutorial or just some retarded ad?

Originally Posted by fgopl

Wait. I have no clue what the lucid F--K this is!
Is this a tutorial or just some retarded ad?

The good news is, you can pursue this as far as you like without ever having to put your hand in your pocket! You can get a feel for the Raduga techniques by searching "Michael Raduga" on YouTube and there are a few of his videos on there. In addition to induction techniques, there is also some useful advice on stabilising and maintaining LDs.

oh. ok. it had sounded like an advertisment. sorry.

No, I'm just being open and honest about my results. If the techniques fail miserably or a roaring success I'll be sure to let you know either way!

i looked up raduga and all i saw was astral projection.

No, it isn't astral projection. Michael Raduga doesn't believe in astral projection as a separate phenomenon. Essentially, Mr Raduga believes that OBEs, astral projection, near death experiences and even alien abductions are all the same thing - lucid dreams, but he calls them "The phase".

So, I applied these techniques throughout September. I tried them on each Wednesday night, Friday night, Saturday and Sunday. The other nights I just went to bed normally with no intention to LD or attempt to LD. I couldn't follow the schedule as religiously as I would've hoped, because I caught a weird stomach bug and trying to get through the day and night without shitting my pants became a priority for a bit. Anyhow, here's the results:

"Accidental" DILDS (Where I realised I was dreaming in a dream): 2
LDs where I woke up and "left my body": 2
LDs where I woke up and failed at "leaving the body" then used the cycle of techniques: 0

So, 4 LDs. Reasonably pleased with that. It is worth noting that a new guidebook by Michael Raduga is due out very soon. I'll be a good student and read and memorise that, then let you know if I do any experiments.

Originally Posted by Bobblehat

It is worth noting that a new guidebook by Michael Raduga is due out very soon. I'll be a good student and read and memorise that, then let you know if I do any experiments.

Its out now and a good edition:

New Book

Originally Posted by mcwillis

Its out now and a good edition:

New Book

I've very interested in the "forced falling asleep" approach. That approach is fairly new to me and I'm looking forward to trying that when time is being a bit kinder.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

Its out now and a good edition:

New Book

I have to say that this is a much more concise and easily understood guide than the previous e-book, I'm impressed This may be useful.

Originally Posted by Bobblehat

I've very interested in the "forced falling asleep" approach. That approach is fairly new to me and I'm looking forward to trying that when time is being a bit kinder.

ahh cheers for the reminder that was a quite useful method last time i tried it

Thank you for introduce such book for LD.
I'm not good at WILDing for a long time so this would be good help for me.

This works I was attempting to WILD and fell asleep and woke up not knowing it and heard loud tinnitus and a wa woosh noise and then bam, had an obe for like 5 seconds, my first one.

So from another perspective (outside of the school of out-of-body travel context), would this technique be considered an OBE or, instead, a sort of DEILD variation? I'm a bit confused.

Originally Posted by 1234567

So from another perspective (outside of the school of out-of-body travel context), would this technique be considered an OBE or, instead, a sort of DEILD variation? I'm a bit confused.

If you perform the instructions for indirect techniques you may have a regular WILD, or you may be able to leave your body. You can use indirect techniques after exiting a dream but that isn't necessary as you can succeed after having say only one minute of sleep. The important thing is performing indirect techniques immediately upon waking from sleep.

I was wondering would this method would work if I wake up an 30-60 min (about 8-8:30)before my usual wake time? Because I usually need to get up at 6:30 (I need to get ready for school), so weekends are my only option for lucid dreaming. And I don't want to wake up at 6 o'clock because on weekend I get a chance to actually sleep without annoying alarm at 6 o'clock.

Originally Posted by Elaol

I was wondering would this method would work if I wake up an 30-60 min (about 8-8:30)before my usual wake time? Because I usually need to get up at 6:30 (I need to get ready for school), so weekends are my only option for lucid dreaming. And I don't want to wake up at 6 o'clock because on weekend I get a chance to actually sleep without annoying alarm at 6 o'clock.

You may have to go to bed a lot earlier school nights. As an example, go to bed at 9pm. Wake up at 3am. Stay awake for 3 to 45 before falling asleep again. Use the next two to three hours to catch the times when you awaken naturally to practice indirect techniques before getting up properly at 6.30am.

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

I have to say that this is a much more concise and easily understood guide than the previous e-book, I'm impressed This may be useful.

Yes, the new edition is impressive. More research and seminar results has resulted in a much more informative new edition of the book.

Originally Posted by Ctharlhie

When it talks about 'training' indirect methods, should training be done at any time or upon awakening without moving/opening eyes?

No, the maual says to train any time apart from before going to sleep at night. To begin with I trained in the early evening as this was the best time for me. The point of training is to firstly aquaint yourself with the dynamics of the indirect techniques and secondly to become used to doing them so that you remember exactly what to do when you use them in the morning with WBTB.

I also have noticed that you are a fan of the Cthulu Mythos (-:

Originally Posted by mcwillis

No, the maual says to train any time apart from before going to sleep at night. To begin with I trained in the early evening as this was the best time for me. The point of training is to firstly aquaint yourself with the dynamics of the indirect techniques and secondly to become used to doing them so that you remember exactly what to do when you use them in the morning with WBTB.

I also have noticed that you are a fan of the Cthulu Mythos (-:

Thanks for the info!
And indeed I am... though I'm not sure I would like to dream about it

Originally Posted by mcwillis

I woke up and immediately applied "Phantom Wiggling" on my left arm for five seconds and my dream-arm was moving freely. I could at this point have had an OBE but I wanted a lucid dream.

Enjoy...

Hi, im new to LD so apologize me.

can you explain me how do you decide to have a lucid dream instead of OBE?

i am reading Raduga book and he just speaks of phase. is ld and obe the same ? if not how can you choose? ( by not trying to separate from your body, as you sugested ? )



thank you

i appreciate your help