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      Quote Originally Posted by MasterMind View Post
      But I stil wonder how Raduga mean a separation and a phantom wiggle should be done. Am I supposed to really try to move my arm, but hopefully I don't use my muscles or imagine that I am moving my arm and it will feel so realistic. I have read it in the book, but I just don't understand. Thanks
      Separation is not necessary. It may be useful to be sure you are entering LD but Raduga himsef admits it was not the best term to use as everyone tries to separate while it is not really necessary.

      Here is how I do this. After waking up I imagine rubbing my hands, and when I feel it realistically enough, I just move my body starting with hands (which I know are dream hands) and stood up, then RC to be sure, and last step is creating image and stabilizing.

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      Quote Originally Posted by Phantasos View Post
      Separation is not necessary. It may be useful to be sure you are entering LD but Raduga himsef admits it was not the best term to use as everyone tries to separate while it is not really necessary.

      Here is how I do this. After waking up I imagine rubbing my hands, and when I feel it realistically enough, I just move my body starting with hands (which I know are dream hands) and stood up, then RC to be sure, and last step is creating image and stabilizing.
      This Indirect Technique is in one of his seminar videos. But for anyone else remember that one technique is not going to work for everyone. Cycling of a set of Indirect Techniques is necessary for everyone to achieve success.

      Please click on the links below, more techniques under investigation to come soon...


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      Quote Originally Posted by mcwillis View Post
      This Indirect Technique is in one of his seminar videos. But for anyone else remember that one technique is not going to work for everyone. Cycling of a set of Indirect Techniques is necessary for everyone to achieve success.
      i watched his video series and despite the computer voice they are really great so ta again. i tried adding a smell and taste visualisation to the cycle last night and it was pretty effective for an attempt before sleep

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