Thread: How to have an Instant WILD

I read this thread yesterday and decided to give it a go last night.
I had little faith in it working though, so anyway I woke up after about 3 hours sleep and decided to give it a go.
Much to my amazement within 5 minutes of trying I found myself standing up in my bedroom I noticed some items
of my furniture and clothing were in different locations than IRL.
I then left my room by pushing myself through a wall and flew some short distance before unfortunately
waking up.
This was only the second Wild I have ever had the first one being quite some time back.
I felt no vibrations and heard no sounds during last nights event.
Thanks for posting this technique, I will be trying to repeat my success during the coming nights.

I'm definitely going to be trying this the next few weeks. That you so much for sharing this, mcwillis!

hey mcwillis you legend. re reading this thread is making it so much easier for me to enter straight back into a lucid when i wake up. ive tried the phantom wiggling a long while back, but always been too lazy to give it a proper go with a wbtb. the idea of just cycling through a few different techs is invaluable for me as it helps so much to keep focus. it led to an amazing long lucid for me this morning so cheers bud. sweet dreams. journal entry here textys, lexys, smoking and a healing whistle - Dream Journals - Dreamviews Lucid Dreaming Community & Resource

now to finally get down to reading the whole books

Originally Posted by DREAMER242000

I read this thread yesterday and decided to give it a go last night.
I had little faith in it working though, so anyway I woke up after about 3 hours sleep and decided to give it a go.
Much to my amazement within 5 minutes of trying I found myself standing up in my bedroom I noticed some items
of my furniture and clothing were in different locations than IRL.
I then left my room by pushing myself through a wall and flew some short distance before unfortunately
waking up.
This was only the second Wild I have ever had the first one being quite some time back.
I felt no vibrations and heard no sounds during last nights event.
Thanks for posting this technique, I will be trying to repeat my success during the coming nights.

5 Minutes of practice is too much. Better to do one minute and fail, then go back to sleep to try again on a later awakening. You will have better long term results if you follow this rule.

Originally Posted by whiterain

hey mcwillis you legend. re reading this thread is making it so much easier for me to enter straight back into a lucid when i wake up. ive tried the phantom wiggling a long while back, but always been too lazy to give it a proper go with a wbtb. the idea of just cycling through a few different techs is invaluable for me as it helps so much to keep focus. it led to an amazing long lucid for me this morning so cheers bud. sweet dreams. journal entry here textys, lexys, smoking and a healing whistle - Dream Journals - Dreamviews Lucid Dreaming Community & Resource

now to finally get down to reading the whole books

I am not a legend. I have just followed Mr. Raduga's precise instructions, that is all.

Originally Posted by mattbrox

I'm definitely going to be trying this the next few weeks. That you so much for sharing this, mcwillis!

There are lots of woohoo's on this page. These techniques work faster and more easily than any other method.

Woohoo's tehe (I play too much sims)

Anyway, I'm going to try reading the ebooks again (saved onto my laptop). They kinda confused me last time I tried to read them because of all the OBE talk and such. But, this is try no. 2 because I do see a lot of potential with this technique, especially if you get it to become habit/second nature. I'm gonna take it slowly and really understand each part before I move on, or at least try to.

On average, how many lucids do you think you've had with this technique Mcwillis?

Originally Posted by Raspberry

Woohoo's tehe (I play too much sims)

Anyway, I'm going to try reading the ebooks again (saved onto my laptop). They kinda confused me last time I tried to read them because of all the OBE talk and such. But, this is try no. 2 because I do see a lot of potential with this technique, especially if you get it to become habit/second nature. I'm gonna take it slowly and really understand each part before I move on, or at least try to.

On average, how many lucids do you think you've had with this technique Mcwillis?

The Workbook, 'Ultimate Yoga...' is a much lighter read than the textbook. I have never kept a count of my lucid dreams and I will explain why. Why do professional football players keep a count of their goals. Why do snooker players keep a count of a 147 point maximum break? Because these accomplishments are hard to achieve. Why don't we keep a count of how may times we tie our shoelaces as a simple example? Because it is easy to achieve. I knew a fair deal about the subconscious mind a long time before I started lucid dreaming and decided that if I keep a count of my lucids I am basically saying to my subconscious mind that lucid dreaming is hard to achieve which can then become a sel-fulfilling prophecy. I have had plenty with these books. The techniques work when applied correctly according to Mr. Raduga's precise instructions.

This sounds like a interesting idea, not fully convinced about either way but I'll read the book at some point tonight and give it a shot!

I just read the section on indirect techniques and I've found it quite interesting. It seems that about 80% of the techniques are about recreating the sensations normally felt during a WILD, so that a WILD naturally accompanies it. I love behaviourism!

Originally Posted by riverboy

This sounds like a interesting idea, not fully convinced about either way but I'll read the book at some point tonight and give it a shot!

General statistics from seminars are

1-3 days 50% of people have success
2-7 days 80% of people have success
3-14 days 90% of people have success

I cannot for the life of me wake up after my dreams and stay still. Hell, I can hardly wake up. I can remember vaguely waking up 1 time last night to try this technique and I had rolled over before I became aware of what I was supposed to do. I've tried this technique multiple times

I tried the 'autosuggestion' and mantras as well. Any tips?

At night is the worst time because you are too sleepy, hence why you don't even remember what you are supposed to be doing and you don't yet have any practical experience of having success as well to go by. Follow the books instructions and use WBTB. As you are falling asleep after WBTB you must have the intense desire to awaken without moving. If the intent is there and you use auto-suggestion you will succeed. You can use Indirect Techniques after moving but your chances are greatly reduced. Don't waste the opportunity for practice though at these moments. If nothing happens after four or five cycles of several Indirect Techniques just go back to sleep and try again at your next awakening

I did wake back to bed, hence the waking up. I had followed the instructions, and it says to do it at night, or right after sleep. Do you mean later in the morning?

How often do you actually use this technique?

Sleep six hours first. He says do it at night when you have experience of success with using Indirect Techniques combined with WBTB. I try to use it most days.

ill just add that although not moving will surely be a great tech for most people, for me i always fall back to sleep unless i get up for a minute just to wake myself up a bit. it might hinder my ability to do the more advanced things (obe etc) but it works great for going back into a lucid for me. will have another go at a non mover tonight. on current progress i may have a full on wild with no gap, or even a full obe in the next few weeks....

I had a dry spell because of the stress from school, read through the workbook to page 76 and tried to understand more of the book than I've done before. I went to bed after I had studied for two tests that I was going to have the next day.
Set my alarm to wake me up 6 hours later, and when it did I fell asleep remembering to notice my next awakening with closed eyes, and when I woke up that time I heard a ringing noise and it got more intense and then I was standing in my school lucid!
when that dream ended I just observerved the images that was infront of my eyes and I was back in the dream. Two lucids with indirect techniques, woah!

But I stil wonder how Raduga mean a separation and a phantom wiggle should be done. Am I supposed to really try to move my arm, but hopefully I don't use my muscles or imagine that I am moving my arm and it will feel so realistic. I have read it in the book, but I just don't understand. Thanks

Success again last night.
I had a much longer and more vivid dream than on my first night using this method, thats two nights out
of three.
I found myself again standing in my bedroom, I then left my room and went on to enjoy a Lucid dream that
seemed to last at least 10 minutes.
The best part of my dream involved me flying behind five Spitfire aircraft that were flying in formation,
I tried to get amongst them but was just not fast enough.
I love this method thanks mcwillis for starting this thread and bringing this method to my attention.

Originally Posted by mcwillis

General statistics from seminars are

1-3 days 50% of people have success
2-7 days 80% of people have success
3-14 days 90% of people have success

The statistics are pretty impressive, however I'm a huge skeptic of just about everything in life. I think the techniques look pretty sound, but I'll be fully convinced when I see for myself.

Originally Posted by MasterMind

But I stil wonder how Raduga mean a separation and a phantom wiggle should be done. Am I supposed to really try to move my arm, but hopefully I don't use my muscles or imagine that I am moving my arm and it will feel so realistic. I have read it in the book, but I just don't understand. Thanks

Separation is not necessary. It may be useful to be sure you are entering LD but Raduga himsef admits it was not the best term to use as everyone tries to separate while it is not really necessary.

Here is how I do this. After waking up I imagine rubbing my hands, and when I feel it realistically enough, I just move my body starting with hands (which I know are dream hands) and stood up, then RC to be sure, and last step is creating image and stabilizing.

Originally Posted by MasterMind

I had a dry spell because of the stress from school, read through the workbook to page 76 and tried to understand more of the book than I've done before. I went to bed after I had studied for two tests that I was going to have the next day.
Set my alarm to wake me up 6 hours later, and when it did I fell asleep remembering to notice my next awakening with closed eyes, and when I woke up that time I heard a ringing noise and it got more intense and then I was standing in my school lucid!
when that dream ended I just observerved the images that was infront of my eyes and I was back in the dream. Two lucids with indirect techniques, woah!

Originally Posted by MasterMind

But I stil wonder how Raduga mean a separation and a phantom wiggle should be done. Am I supposed to really try to move my arm, but hopefully I don't use my muscles or imagine that I am moving my arm and it will feel so realistic. I have read it in the book, but I just don't understand. Thanks

When it does work you will know it!

Originally Posted by Phantasos

Separation is not necessary. It may be useful to be sure you are entering LD but Raduga himsef admits it was not the best term to use as everyone tries to separate while it is not really necessary.

Here is how I do this. After waking up I imagine rubbing my hands, and when I feel it realistically enough, I just move my body starting with hands (which I know are dream hands) and stood up, then RC to be sure, and last step is creating image and stabilizing.

This Indirect Technique is in one of his seminar videos. But for anyone else remember that one technique is not going to work for everyone. Cycling of a set of Indirect Techniques is necessary for everyone to achieve success.

Today I got another shot at the technique, but I think I was too excited. My heart was beating faster and that sort of distracted me. I went through the 4 cycles of indirect techniques, but couldn't achieve separation. How often do you try the technique mcwillis? I find myself only having one shot at this cause I can't wake up more often without an alarm clock...

Originally Posted by Marsupilama

Today I got another shot at the technique, but I think I was too excited. My heart was beating faster and that sort of distracted me. I went through the 4 cycles of indirect techniques, but couldn't achieve separation. How often do you try the technique mcwillis? I find myself only having one shot at this cause I can't wake up more often without an alarm clock...

Using an alarm clock reduces your chances greatly. One set of cycles not working is common, you need to awaken several times per day to practice.