Thread: How to have an Instant WILD

So, I don't know if mcwillis will read this or not, but I want to ask for permition to create another thread about this book? I would explain all the main techniques and concepts of the book. I would put this thread's link in the very beginning of my post of course, because it is very helpful.

Don't you think there will be too much threads about the same topic? There are already couple of them.
I guess people should read the book by themselves.

Originally Posted by Purebred

So, I don't know if mcwillis will read this or not, but I want to ask for permition to create another thread about this book? I would explain all the main techniques and concepts of the book. I would put this thread's link in the very beginning of my post of course, because it is very helpful.

This is not mcwillis book. I say make the thread, it will help many people

Originally Posted by Lucidreaman

Don't you think there will be too much threads about the same topic? There are already couple of them.
I guess people should read the book by themselves.

People don't read books, because they are bored. Common sense. And there are no threads except this one about Michael Raduga. Maybe I don't know about them?

This is not mcwillis book. I say make the thread, it will help many people

yes, I think so too.

Well, I said couple but it is exactly one couple only
This one and this one
So, it should not be a problem if there is another one, but still, I do think that people should read it by themselves - otherwise - are they really interested in this thing?

Humans are lazy being. they think that they can achieve what they want, without doing anything. I will help them

I've started reading this book and all it talks about is OBE's so how would one translate these techniques into lucid dreaming?

OBE and LD are one and the same.

Cheers for the post Mcwillis! It was a great read (well, not entertaining, but extremely informative). I love the pragmatic, scientific approach it takes.

I've read all except the direct techniques, which I will definitely come back to after I get some decent success with the indirect ones. At the moment I'm having difficulty waking up without moving, though I'm sure that'll happen with time. When practising DEILDs in the past, I've had a little luck waking without movement, though I had trouble transitioning when I did so, so I'm glad I now have strict guidelines to follow!

Thanks again, I'll hopefully post my success stories soon enough

couple of days ago i got into a good lucid and tried to do this from there. i stabilised it then tried to switch part of my attention back to my real body. i was careful and kept on restabilisng it so it felt like i could try waking up then going straight back into it to practice a wild. i managed this about four times by just visualising myself leaping of my roof and falling slightly then catching myself and flying when you get that falling feeling in the stomach. i think i was lying on my front for this, which seemed to make it alot easier to picture the motion of flying, but im not sure if i was aware of my real body or just another dream body.

later on though i realised that i was probably really just transporting myself right into a completely different place in the dream, from a normal lucid. or into a different dream from mini false awakenings.. doh. its so tricky because you dont want to stay awake for too long before you go back or you will lose it, but its hard to get a good reality check in in that gap. still its good progress in flying, teleporting into different part just through will and getting back to my house in my dreams to. i flew around in circles and just kept coming back to my body then going away again.

while i was doing each lap, i was completely changing the scenery back to a forest i was in earlier. never flown through the woods but it must have something to do with watching a programme on goshawks the other day. look for goshawk vids because theyre pretty amazing to watch weaing in and out. it was so much like having multiple obe's but its crazy how the mind can play tricks on you. was i awake? what is awake? cheers for all the help everyone, its going pretty well now. good luck all

I would try but am scared of the hallucinations. I can't stand sp as it is.

I've read the chapter 2 and such, but now I don't wake up with dreams going off in my head. >< It seems as though the more I focus on trying to LD, the more my mind doesn't let me. I really don't know how to bypass all the mind games.

Interesting. I have to say, this looks promising and should go hand in hand with ADA nicely to make a two-pronged approach to lucidity. ADA for DILD, and this for WILD. I skimmed through the book last night and plan to go back to read and interpret specifics, but overall I'm interested.

This past night I realized I woke up after a dream and stayed perfectly still, and then after attempting some of the indirect techniques I tried to separate by rolling over, and it worked! I didn't follow the book's advised procedure exactly (I only skimmed!), but at least it seems to work, so I'll be sure to check it in depth today.

had some more good progress the other morning. got up for about an hour then went back to bed. this time i kept it extremely simple but it resulted in the most conscious wild so far. i just relaxed my body bit by bit and tried to keep my mind awake by focussing on hearing each individual car that went past in the distance. in previous attempts i have only become lucid after the dream has started, so there is always a gap but this was different. i was suddenly aware that i was in a dream after a tiny lapse in consciousness. however this time the dream had not started yet and the gap was so small that i was still lying on my bed.

i could tell the room was slightly different so had no need to rc. i remembered that all i had to do in this state was get up. as i did i became partially aware of my real body at the same time, and felt a little tingling as i was seperating. this may have caused problems in the past but i kept focus and just stood up on my bed. i didnt bother to llok for my real body because i didnt really expect to see anything. although its the closest to an obe ive had, it still just felt dreamlike so there didnt seem any point in testing anything out. it didnt last long, but was just so easy to pull off (apart from the years of practice of course). when it comes down to it, it really is just as simple as consciously relaxing your body and letting your mind do its own thing. so this couls still just have been dreaming about having an obe, but i think it was pretty much my first time going through what i think people describe as the phase? must just remember to do longer wbtbs and also to get as damn comfy as i was that morning.

since then there always seems to be something in my body which takes my attention, but that morning i was just so relaxed i could bring on the buzz so easily. its very odd though because ive been trying to do this for ages, and it was amazing and will get better with time, but for some reason im still an ungrateful sod... how come i am bringing such magic experiences into my life yet still cant really get excited about anything? perhaps its the whole not being able to share it with anyone aspect of it?

Originally Posted by Fedor

I would try but am scared of the hallucinations. I can't stand sp as it is.

i was 100% the same as you at first mate but its true how much easier it gets with time. the first tries i had were full of paranoia and fear but my last attempt was just like being tickled gently then standing up. i cant quite believe how much easier it gets, but it seems like the fear factor truely is just fear of the unknown. when it becomes more known to you, the fear just dissapears

I watched the videos and downloaded the e-book. I really don't have much time these
days to read but I will hopefully get around to it. For now, I will attempt what I learned
from the videos on his site. If this works it could be quite interesting, and a lot easier
than lying in bed for 2 hours.

Originally Posted by Shadow27

I watched the videos and downloaded the e-book. I really don't have much time these
days to read but I will hopefully get around to it. For now, I will attempt what I learned
from the videos on his site. If this works it could be quite interesting, and a lot easier
than lying in bed for 2 hours.

yeah i really think people must waste so much time by trying to lie still for ages. the last attempt only took a few minutes, and if it doesnt work quickly then it probably wont work until you next wake up. this guys methods seem to be the most efficient for me at least

I was kinda scared or more just anxious when I first started but If you just relax and let it naturally happen there is really nothing to be afraid of. It is actually very enjoyable of an experience.

Can someone explain this forced back to sleep thing to me? I'm not quite sure how to do it.

Originally Posted by Shadow27

Can someone explain this forced back to sleep thing to me? I'm not quite sure how to do it.

Instead of focusing on you are going to get a lucid dream, you pretend that you are on that moment going to sleep.
So you close your eyes and think of nothing and try to go asleep, but you have in the back in your head still a memory of prevent yourself from falling asleep.
So like this: Try to go asleep, STOP yourself before you do. The hard thing is to stop yourself, but if you manage to do that, the images, sounds and so on comes easier and faster.

Oh I've done that before during wild attempts. I've found it quite effective.
Not quickly to sleep but I've drifted off to just on the edge then jumped back
to consciousness.

Originally Posted by Shadow27

Oh I've done that before during wild attempts. I've found it quite effective.
Not quickly to sleep but I've drifted off to just on the edge then jumped back
to consciousness.

Nice that's how it's done

Awesome

Originally Posted by Connor23

I've started reading this book and all it talks about is OBE's so how would one translate these techniques into lucid dreaming?

He does talk about lucid dreaming right from the start, as well as OBE's. My first use of his techniques resulted in me having a lucid dream from waking consciousness, i.e. a W.I.L.D.