Quickly Transition From Vibrations to LD

**nina** · 12-17-2010 02:39 AM

In exploring the vibrational state I have intuitively discovered, as I assume others have, that there is a level of conscious control to how and where the vibrations manifest in the body.

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(unnecessary background info, feel free to skip)
My interest with the vibrational state started as a result of finding myself stuck there on many occasions, sometimes for several minutes, waiting to enter a lucid dream. After awhile it gets boring, just laying there, very conscious, with your whole body vibrating. So I attempted to direct the vibrations to a certain area of my body, to see if I could at least make good use of them. To my amazement, it worked...and I have actually been able to achieve orgasm this way on many occasions (and I know others on this forum have as well).

More recently I've been channeling the vibrations to different areas of my body, and using the vibration to massage my chakras. I really have no clue what it is exactly that I'm doing, it might even have a name (usually all of my discoveries are natural or intuitive and then later I read about them online and find that they are well known), but all I know is that it always feels absolutely amazing. Sometimes I opt for the full body massage.

Perhaps it's not so much that I am directing the vibrations to different areas of my body, but more so, focusing on those vibrations in some area of the body and consciously willing them to become intensified. They respond completely and totally to my will...and that is one of the most confusing and amazing parts.
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But here's the real reason why I bothered to make this thread... Last night I found myself in the vibrational state after attempting to re-enter a lucid dream...and instead of channeling the vibrations to various parts of my body...I channeled them to my brain, just to see what would happen.

The second I did that, something pretty interesting happened. I felt a specific area of my brain respond to the vibrations. Instead of getting the nice feel good massage that comes with the intensified vibrations, I could tell something different was occurring.

That whole area of my brain just sort of lit up, or..."switched on"...and as I concentrated on increasing the intensity of the vibrations in that area....it starting vibrating faster and faster, humming just like a hard drive booting up. Eventually it was vibrating so fast, that I could no longer detect it...and I was suddenly inside a very vivid, very clear, and stable lucid dream.

Had I discovered a way to consciously engender a lucid dream directly from the vibrational state? A way to bypass the wait through the normally passive vibrational and hypnagogic stages, which for me sometimes take several minutes or even longer?

Exciting possibilities, but of course...it could just have been a coincidence. But I had a theory, and I was anxious to test it out.

Luckily after that first experience, I was able to use the dream re-entry technique two more times that same night to test out my new theory. I once again found myself in the vibrational state, and I noticed that the vibrations were subtle and consistent throughout my body. I directed them upwards to that same area of the brain...and again it started buzzing and whirling away like I had just switched it on. I remember a tickling sensation in my brain and at one point my ears popped. Seconds later I was in a lucid dream.

On the final occasion I had barely left my lucid dream, when I began concentrating on that same area of my brain. It was as though it was winding down as my dream faded out, but once I focused my attention back to it, it started buzzing again, and I entered a new lucid dream right away without having to enter any transitional states like vibrations/hypnagogia.

Sometimes I'd have to sit through ten minutes of vibrations or get stuck in hypnagogia and eventually just give up. So discovering the ability to make an active and conscious choice to progress into a lucid dream, for me at least, is pretty cool. Perhaps anyone who has experienced similar long waits through the vibrational stage or hypnagogia, or who tends to get stuck there waiting for the dream to happen, may find this very simple technique beneficial.

Of course, as of right now, it seems like this has only worked for me, and only a few times over the course of a single night. I guess the real reason for writing this is that I hope others will test it out and see if it works for them. It's such a simple technique but if proven to work for others as well, then at the very least, it would make a nice little addition to a few of our tutorials.

Here is a very basic "how to" if you want to test this out for yourself.

When you find yourself in the vibrational state...
1. Focus your attention to an area of your brain near the top and front of your head
2. Concentrate on this area and imagine/will/manipulate/etc. the vibrations you are feeling to flow or move to this area
3. Concentrate on increasing the intensity of the vibrations to this area
4. At this point you should already feel this area of your brain sort of "switch on" ...and it will be vibrating very differently, with a different frequency, speed, and intensity than the rest of your body
5. Once you are able to feel this different vibration, just concentrate on it. The harder you concentrate on this vibration, the faster it vibrates, and the louder the buzzing/humming inside your head
6. When the vibration becomes so fast that the humming is barely detectable...you are already inside a lucid dream.

This whole process takes just a few seconds.

Let me know if you have any luck with it.

**cmind** · 12-17-2010 03:11 AM

This is called WILD...

Goddamn.

**nina** · 12-17-2010 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by cmind

This is called WILD...
Goddamn.

No it's not. Keep your arrogant ignorance in your OWN threads please.

I am very experienced with WILD...if you understood the thread at all you would have realized that it deals with a nuance of the WILDing technique occurring specifically during the vibrational stage. Anyway, reread and correct yourself, or do not post again if you can't even read the content before posting your sardonic remarks.

**rynkrt3** · 12-17-2010 05:11 AM

I know this is a noob question, but, how do you get these vibrations?

**MindGames** · 12-17-2010 05:42 AM

Would you say this vibrational state is caused by sleep paralysis in some form? I'm at the point of WILDing where I can induce SP, so maybe I could test this out by trying to redirect the "vibrations" of sleep paralysis to my upper forehead.

I still remain skeptical, but I'm willing to try it.

JP · 12-17-2010 07:18 AM

Sounds pretty interesting, the vibrating sensations are achieved through sleep paralysis correct?

**nina** · 12-17-2010 08:42 AM

Yes these are the vibrations associated with sleep paralysis, as achieved when attempting to WILD, or in between dreams during DEILD.

**Irken** · 12-17-2010 09:09 AM

I don't believe I've ever felt these vibrations, I'd like to though.

**mcwillis** · 12-17-2010 09:16 AM

Originally Posted by cmind

This is called WILD...

Goddamn.

I agree with Aquanina, you either haven't read the entirety of her post or you are very inexperienced. I presume it's the second point I made.

**mcwillis** · 12-17-2010 09:20 AM

Excellent tip Aquanina. I shall definately be trying this in my normal WILD inductions. There is another book that employs a method of manipulting the brain but different to your method and is highly successful, and also works for 95% of people. So your method should be easy to reproduce for others as long as they are in a deep enough state of vibration.

**mcwillis** · 12-17-2010 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by Irken

I don't believe I've ever felt these vibrations, I'd like to though.

I have found I can enter strong vibrations over my whole body from my neck downwards often within five minutes using the computer menu visualisation combined with the shifted blackboard technique and stimulus spikes from the lucidology102 course.

**Irken** · 12-17-2010 01:49 PM

I never took that course

. Are they posted somewhere? In any event, I think I entered the vibrational state, completely accidentally last night. I am having a bit of trouble remembering as it happened at 4:46 am or nearly. What happened was that I was exiting a dream, in my dream my brother was playing music really loudly in my room so I told him to leave and he did, because in my dream I was trying to sleep. He looked sad so I felt bad for a lil bit, then I woke up. I felt an odd sensation come over my body and I wasn't even aware that I was in my bed at this moment I figured out that I was asleep or nearly asleep and this was the vibrational state, I immediately tried concentrating the vibrations to my head and for a lil bit it worked, but I didn't have much grasp over these vibrations and I woke up soon after.

**cmind** · 12-17-2010 03:54 PM

Vibrations occur during SP. Vibrations naturally spread from the extremities into the torso and lastly the head, as SP progresses. This will always happen as long as you don't break SP.

This is WILD.

**Perlinfalcon** · 12-17-2010 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by cmind

Vibrations occur during SP. Vibrations naturally spread from the extremities into the torso and lastly the head, as SP progresses. This will always happen as long as you don't break SP.

This is WILD.

I don't get your point.

No one is claiming this isn't a WILD. She's just explaining her method of consciously controlling the vibrations that sometimes naturally occur during a WILD. It sounds like it could be an interesting experiment for some people. It won't apply to me, though, because I usually only get vibrations for a very short time or not at all before I transition into a dream.

**nina** · 12-17-2010 05:23 PM

Originally Posted by mcwillis

Excellent tip Aquanina. I shall definately be trying this in my normal WILD inductions. There is another book that employs a method of manipulting the brain but different to your method and is highly successful, and also works for 95% of people. So your method should be easy to reproduce for others as long as they are in a deep enough state of vibration.

I was hoping you would reply.

I actually wrote this thread a few weeks ago but decided not to post for personal reasons. Then I saw your thread and was rather taken aback because you seemed to be describing exactly what I had experienced. I had never seen this issue brought up before, so I figured I would post and see if you recognized what I was describing as similar to what you read. But you mention that it is different...in what way? It's interesting that I usually discover these things by instinct and a natural curiosity, and then later find out that there have been books written about it.

Originally Posted by cmind

Vibrations naturally spread from the extremities into the torso and lastly the head, as SP progresses. This will always happen as long as you don't break SP.

Please provide citations as to where you got this information, or do not state your opinion as fact. I think it goes without saying that I disagree with your assertion.

Vibrations are not equal to WILD, nor are they limited to only the WILD experience, just like SP is not confined to WILD. Therefore, what is being discussed here goes well beyond merely WILD, although you seem to lack the knowledge to understand such a distinction.

**Irken** · 12-17-2010 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by mcwillis

Excellent tip Aquanina. I shall definately be trying this in my normal WILD inductions. There is another book that employs a method of manipulting the brain but different to your method and is highly successful, and also works for 95% of people. So your method should be easy to reproduce for others as long as they are in a deep enough state of vibration.

What book? Also, where do you get those statistics from?

**Puffin** · 12-17-2010 07:54 PM

Very neat! I'll be sure to try this if I can get myself into SP for one fricking time.

**Robot_Butler** · 12-17-2010 08:13 PM

I'm glad you posted this. I've been playing with the same thing for the past several years. I've found I can direct the vibrating sensation to different parts of my body, or even will it to be stronger or weaker by subtly flexing. It is a very strange feeling.

Unlike your description, when I force the vibrations to become stronger, it rarely leads to a lucid dream. Normally, it just makes me feel uncomfortably jittery and claustrophobic. Sometimes the feeling is so intense, I feel like I am going to explode if I don't move on or get away from my body.

I have the most success when I try to open the feeling to incorporate my surroundings. I don't know if that makes any sense. Instead of directing the feeling to a certain area, I spread it outward, like I am opening my awareness, or ballooning outward into my surroundings. It is hard to describe these feelings, since they are not entirely physical or spacial.

**LikesToTrip** · 12-17-2010 08:30 PM

Interesting, I've never tried focusing them on the brain. Anytime I get stuck in the vibration state without transitioning to an LD I have to set an alarm, fall asleep, and try a DEILD when it goes off. Hopefully this can cut out the middle man. Thanks for the tip.

**mcwillis** · 12-17-2010 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by cmind

Vibrations occur during SP

Not for me they don't. I experience the vibrations long before sleep paralysis and I have to wait and relax through the vibration stage.

**mcwillis** · 12-17-2010 10:04 PM

Originally Posted by Aquanina

I was hoping you would reply.

I actually wrote this thread a few weeks ago but decided not to post for personal reasons. Then I saw your thread and was rather taken aback because you seemed to be describing exactly what I had experienced. I had never seen this issue brought up before, so I figured I would post and see if you recognized what I was describing as similar to what you read. But you mention that it is different...in what way? It's interesting that I usually discover these things by instinct and a natural curiosity, and then later find out that there have been books written about it.

How could I not reply to a thread entitled 'Quickly Transition From Vibrations to LD'

That to me is very exciting and I understand how valuable such a technique would be. Like you I can be stuck in vibrations for a long time unable to relax through them and give up which is very annoying. I would like to stress to everyone that the following technique described below is unlikely to work on its own whereas Aquanina's technique may do because she has described moving the vibrations to a particular part of the brain rather than around the body. This is a very important difference. If enough people experiment with Aquanina's discovery then this may become a wonderful new technique that she has discovered. Aquanina I feel that because you have a good understanding of chakras and thus probably have experience of meditation coupled with being a woman you will have a good connection with your intuition and therefore are able to discover these things. EDIT: Actually the 95% statistic is from the training phase - my mistake, sorry folks. From the practical use of the technique it has a 15% success rate thus explaining why it didn't work for Robot_Butler. However, lets hope Aquanina's method of directing the vibes to the top and front of the brain makes a substantial difference. Though it may be that you fall into that 15% category that has excellent success with the technique described below without the need to perform the multitude of other techniques described in the book the technique below comes from.

Onto the different technique:

Testing Individual Effectiveness:

Immediately after waking from sleep, remain motionless, eyes closed. Make 2 to 3 squeezes straining the brain. This is known as straining the brain. If nothing happens, try another technique. If vibrations occur during this exercise, try to move the vibrations around the body and amplify them by continuing to strain the brain. The stronger the vibrations, the higher the probability that a separation technique may be applied. Spontaneous separation may occur. While straining the brain, a practitioner may experience the sounds necessary for transitioning to a listening in technique. The vibrations that arise from straining the brain are very striking. If there is any doubt as to whether the vibrations happened, then most likely a practitioner did not experience them. The vibrations may be described as an intense, painless electrical current moving through or gripping the body. At times, the sensation of a total numbing of the body is experienced.

Training:

To practice straining the brain, lie down, eyes closed, and attempt to strain the brain. Do not think about the fact that actually squeezing the brain is impossible. The imagined straining should be spasmodic, rhythmic. Practitioners may strain the entire brain or specific parts of it. During the process, a sensation of pressure or even real strain arises in the brain. With 95% of practitioners, this strain usually occurs within the first few minutes of exercise. This technique should be committed to memory when training so that it may be instantly recalled and practiced upon awakening from sleep. Practitioners often make the mistake of unintentionally straining their facial and neck muscles instead of straining the interior of their heads. This error should be avoided at all costs, lest it become a habit that frustrates genuine practice.

**mcwillis** · 12-17-2010 10:08 PM

Originally Posted by Irken

What book? Also, where do you get those statistics from?

As I don't want to hijack this thread and direct you to a different thread from here I have sent you a PM with the link.

JP · 12-17-2010 10:09 PM

Thanks for the help mcwillis, I've never experienced vibrations before but now I feel more informed and ready to perform.

**mcwillis** · 12-17-2010 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by Puffin

Very neat! I'll be sure to try this if I can get myself into SP for one fricking time.

If Aquanina's technique can be reproduced by others then it won't be necessary for you to be in SP for this to work

**Jay12341235** · 12-17-2010 10:16 PM

You aren't paralyzed in this state were you? Were you halucinating yet?

I've experienced vibrations many times, none being in SP. Hopefully This will work for me as well!

When I get them, I'm just laying in bed fully conciouss and they start suddenly and end soon. I can still move my body.

Does this sound like yours?