Thread: This ADA stuff has really helped me

Originally Posted by dakotahnok

EILD is a DILD if it makes you lucid in the dream and EILD is a WILD if it makes you lucid from a waking state.

I have to disagree with you there. DILD stands for Dream Induced Lucid Dream, right? Well, with a EILD, you aren't inducing lucidity with the dream. You are using a completely external device to create the lucidity. The device itself, from waking life, is the sole provider of your lucidity. EILD is far different from DILD and WILD in my honest opinion.

@tommo - Awesome, man! Congrats on your success. Hopefully, ADA will be able to provide you with many more of those to come. Good luck in your future attempts!

Originally Posted by KingYoshi

I have to disagree with you there. DILD stands for Dream Induced Lucid Dream, right? Well, with a EILD, you aren't inducing lucidity with the dream. You are using a completely external device to create the lucidity. The device itself, from waking life, is the sole provider of your lucidity. EILD is far different from DILD and WILD in my honest opinion.

@tommo - Awesome, man! Congrats on your success. Hopefully, ADA will be able to provide you with many more of those to come. Good luck in your future attempts!

I guess we can agree to disagree than.

Originally Posted by Desert Claw

really? let me know how that works out

No lucidity but... I slept for a good 12 hours and when I woke up I seemed to remember an ENDLESSLY long dream. All I remembered with clarity was the final scene which lasted what felt like 10-15 minutes. nothing too special, just a kinda humorous ending to what felt like a dramatic experience.

I'd definitely recommend meditation, it felt to have a noticeable impact. I read a good meditation guide on the forum somewhere. Another thought, what about meditating between WBTB sessions? instead of just saying up for half an hour, meditate for some of it, theoretically removing the need for more deep sleep and increasing the projected time for the WILD if successful.

Originally Posted by dakotahnok

I guess we can agree to disagree than.

Agreed .

Originally Posted by 44CalibreSunlight

No lucidity but... I slept for a good 12 hours and when I woke up I seemed to remember an ENDLESSLY long dream. All I remembered with clarity was the final scene which lasted what felt like 10-15 minutes. nothing too special, just a kinda humorous ending to what felt like a dramatic experience.

I'd definitely recommend meditation, it felt to have a noticeable impact. I read a good meditation guide on the forum somewhere. Another thought, what about meditating between WBTB sessions? instead of just saying up for half an hour, meditate for some of it, theoretically removing the need for more deep sleep and increasing the projected time for the WILD if successful.

Yeah, that would work nicely .44. I haven't gotten in to meditation myself, but I have been meaning to for some time now. I think it could definitely help during your WBTBs and I say, "Go for it!"

Originally Posted by tommo

HAHAHAHA the very first night (last night) after realising how to do this properly, I had a lucid dream! Thankyou!

What do you mean by "realising how to do this properly"? Can you share what you started doing differently? It might help me; I'm yet to have a lucid dream from this technique. It has made them more vivid, but there's still the possibility that I'm not doing it right.

Another endlessly long dream. ADA seems to be doing it's job, it's tricky to stay in the mindset of though. I'm golden when at home, but I tend to lose focus when I'm out doing stuff. I'll have to work harder.

Still no lucidity, but getting into an actual routine is definitely going to prove helpful. My only problem now seems to be dream recall. ADA has made them more vivid, but upon awakening I can't seem to remember enough to actually write down. I'm gonna have to practice laying perfectly still when I wake up, I haven't' been able to do it in years, not sure why. it worked once a few years back, before I knew it was a technique, and for some reason I've not been able to do it again. Not that I've tried overly hard.... which will be my course of action tonight.

wish me luck

ALSO meditation is siiiick. I relaxed myself last night, eyes closed sitting upright and cleared my thoughts for a while, and I was totally confident in my mental state and the weirdest thing happened.
I started thinking again, but it would never be in words, the meanings would almost soar over me and I'd briefly understand the notion of what I thought, yet completely unhindered by the "categorizing" effect that thinking in fucking words has. It felt so calming and peaceful, to think in pure clarity like that, without any self doubt, or confusion, or delusional thought processes that seem to accompany daily life.

Yeah, just keep working on building your recall. You could try a mantra before bed as well. Something like, "I will remember my dreams, I will remember my dreams," or possibly, "I will lay still upon waking up." This may help boost some of your recall issues. Also, be sure to write down anything your remember, even if it is only a few words.

Meditation sounds awesome. I just need to stop being lazy and start doing it . I keep putting it off saying, "I'll start meditating tomorrow," lol.

I think I'll set up my old alarm clock and try to associate that sound with lying perfectly still. I haven't used anything to wake me up in years so it might bring me back! I'll try those affirmations too.
oh and thanks yoshi!!

No problem at all. Be sure to keep me updated and I'll help you out along the way . Good luck to you!

It might be daring for me to say this, but I reckon being aware is the key to lucid dreaming out of all the techniques listed out there. The all day awareness technique is the best imo. Caus to become lucid you just have to simply realise its a dream, only way you can do that is to be aware of your surroundings until you see any discrepancies to waking life.
And yea, i gotta thank you KingYoshi man, I was at a dry spell for ages, then 3 weeks ago when i read your tutorial, i got a lucid within 2 days!
Do try!

Awesome! I'm glad to hear it helped you break that dry spell! I know how frustrating they can be.

Awareness is definitely important for inducing a lucid dream.

I must say, ADA didn't gave me only vivid dreams. I can't really explain, but I extended the concept as far as I could, like gathering the most amount of details/sensations/emotions as possible during the day. The very first dream with ADA, I went to details like seeing the numbers in the coins, the smell in the room I was, and even the colour of people's eyes. Must say, I considered it as valuable as a LD.

Also, I think this depends from people to people, but I find myself in such peace when I concentrate my view in a distant spot while I walk to work, and take the time to walk like a zombie gathering everything around me. It justs looks a movie lol because some details (like sun-set clouds) are so, beautiful you if you really notice them. I remember coming home today and feel like I was going over a painting. Some people actually get tired of doing this, but for me it's like watching virtual reality. Just the detail of looking down and see my legs and feet moving, like I'm controlling some robot, priceless!

Thing that worries me is the possibility of not attaining lucidity because I'm not asking myself what's odd in the dream scenario, but just looking like I was watching an amazing painting

Originally Posted by TeaSea

What do you mean by "realising how to do this properly"? Can you share what you started doing differently? It might help me; I'm yet to have a lucid dream from this technique. It has made them more vivid, but there's still the possibility that I'm not doing it right.

Could've just read my posts.... but anyway.

I mean I used to try to realise if I was dreaming. When I first tried this technique.

Now I realise that you don't have to do that. Just be aware of your environment, and you will start being aware of your environment in your dreams as well.
So if you know what a dream feels like and looks like generally (which almost everyone does if they think about it) you will realise that you are dreaming simply because you are more aware.

So during the day, you don't think about whether or not your dreaming, although you automatically probably will a bit just because your practicing this to have LD's. But you don't need to purposefully wonder whether you are dreaming or not. Just be aware of your environment.

Originally Posted by tommo

Could've just read my posts.... but anyway.

I mean I used to try to realise if I was dreaming. When I first tried this technique.

Now I realise that you don't have to do that. Just be aware of your environment, and you will start being aware of your environment in your dreams as well.
So if you know what a dream feels like and looks like generally (which almost everyone does if they think about it) you will realise that you are dreaming simply because you are more aware.

So during the day, you don't think about whether or not your dreaming, although you automatically probably will a bit just because your practicing this to have LD's. But you don't need to purposefully wonder whether you are dreaming or not. Just be aware of your environment.

I read your posts, but I wasn't sure if there was anything else you could share. I'm glad you did, that was helpful, thank you

Originally Posted by KingYoshi

Yeah, just keep working on building your recall. You could try a mantra before bed as well. Something like, "I will remember my dreams, I will remember my dreams," or possibly, "I will lay still upon waking up." This may help boost some of your recall issues. Also, be sure to write down anything your remember, even if it is only a few words.

Meditation sounds awesome. I just need to stop being lazy and start doing it . I keep putting it off saying, "I'll start meditating tomorrow," lol.

I'd advise the meditation class in the DV academy. It's really well written, and it gives quik results (felt the effects after trying it only once)

Originally Posted by zoth00

I must say, ADA didn't gave me only vivid dreams. I can't really explain, but I extended the concept as far as I could, like gathering the most amount of details/sensations/emotions as possible during the day. The very first dream with ADA, I went to details like seeing the numbers in the coins, the smell in the room I was, and even the colour of people's eyes. Must say, I considered it as valuable as a LD.

Also, I think this depends from people to people, but I find myself in such peace when I concentrate my view in a distant spot while I walk to work, and take the time to walk like a zombie gathering everything around me. It justs looks a movie lol because some details (like sun-set clouds) are so, beautiful you if you really notice them. I remember coming home today and feel like I was going over a painting. Some people actually get tired of doing this, but for me it's like watching virtual reality. Just the detail of looking down and see my legs and feet moving, like I'm controlling some robot, priceless!

Thing that worries me is the possibility of not attaining lucidity because I'm not asking myself what's odd in the dream scenario, but just looking like I was watching an amazing painting

Ah, that is awesome that the detail in your dreams has increased. i am glad you are showing some progress. Don't worry about asking yourself what is odd, you will begin to notice things naturally. With enough practice you will be able to simply feel the difference in a dream and waking life. It sounds like you are doing well, just keep practicing ! Good luck to you!

Originally Posted by tommo

Could've just read my posts.... but anyway.

I mean I used to try to realise if I was dreaming. When I first tried this technique.

Now I realise that you don't have to do that. Just be aware of your environment, and you will start being aware of your environment in your dreams as well.
So if you know what a dream feels like and looks like generally (which almost everyone does if they think about it) you will realise that you are dreaming simply because you are more aware.

So during the day, you don't think about whether or not your dreaming, although you automatically probably will a bit just because your practicing this to have LD's. But you don't need to purposefully wonder whether you are dreaming or not. Just be aware of your environment.

Yeah, exactly. Just work on applying all of your senses and really immerse yourself in waking life. It will then carry over into the dream state as well.

Originally Posted by Spyguy

I'd advise the meditation class in the DV academy. It's really well written, and it gives quik results (felt the effects after trying it only once)

Yeah, I've actually looked through some of Shock's material there. Indeed it is well written. I need to go back again and really give it a thorough look.

Originally Posted by Spyguy

I'd advise the meditation class in the DV academy. It's really well written, and it gives quik results (felt the effects after trying it only once)

THIS, THIS THIS THIS
Serrriously the best thing ever.