I am really doing something wrong, but what?

[Iriba]

Well guys it's been 2 years since i registered here. In that ammount of time, i got only 3 LDs but they were nothing compared to real life, But just normal dreams, where i knew i was dreaming. so after all this time of reflecting, i came to a conclusion this is not possible, i mean, 2 almost 3 years to have a single LD? i don't think so, so i wonder if i have been screwing up everything from the beginning. -low motivation? -Low rate of doing RC's? -doing ADA the wrong way? I don't know where i failed, this is why LD is hard after all, no one will spoonfeed you and see what you're doing is right or wrong. You have to trust yourself and your techniques that are made in your own way. I really don't know what i am doing wrong, or whatelse to think, but to have 3 LDs like normal dreams, should i consider that i am doing the right things? I don't know... my hope and motivation is falling apart faster each day and i don't know what to do anymore. I know i sound like a dramaqueen but i have to write what i am really feeling.

[sparkley]

Keep a dream journal, you never said you done that! (it makes you remember dreams better) And you want to really, realllyy have one if you want one, maybe look at stuff you can do in LDs, like flying or disappearing, pyrokinesis! Anything, and set your intent all day and when you are going to bed that you want a LD, you really want to have the "I can do it" feeling. After every RC you do, do awareness, and think if it works or not, and if it doesn't work, still think about it, be aware.. After every RC you do in your dream, you will do the aware thing and see if you are dreaming or not. Keep your motivation up, you can do this, also with WILD, try be aware, do it around 4AM after you wake up

[Iriba]

Keep a dream journal, you never said you done that! (it makes you remember dreams better) And you want to really, realllyy have one if you want one, maybe look at stuff you can do in LDs, like flying or disappearing, pyrokinesis! Anything, and set your intent all day and when you are going to bed that you want a LD, you really want to have the "I can do it" feeling. After every RC you do, do awareness, and think if it works or not, and if it doesn't work, still think about it, be aware.. After every RC you do in your dream, you will do the aware thing and see if you are dreaming or not. Keep your motivation up, you can do this, also with WILD, try be aware, do it around 4AM after you wake up I forgot to mention that i own 4 dream journals actually, and i try to keep aware as possible, but i dont really know how i should do awareness, i mean, there are different ways right? my way is to try to notice everything, my body moving, the smell, the sounds, my thoughts. maybe because of that i get weak mentally quick, but i don't see any other way to do it. About WILD, to be honest i am scared to do it and i really can't get any guts to do it so

[LDman]

Alright, first throw away the ADA and frequent-RC stuff, if these don't work then that means you don't have a stable foundation for LDing. I good thing to do first is make a list of what you want to do in your dreams, make it as long as possible as this should get you motivated again. Then some questions: What techniques do you currently try for LDing and which ones have you tried in the past? When did you do these techniques? About the WILD, it's not scary. People sometimes come with horrible stories but actually my hallucinations are usually very peacefull, like flies flying over my head and a low Buzz in my ear.

[sparkley]

i mean, there are different ways right? my way is to try to notice everything, my body moving, the smell, the sounds, my thoughts. maybe because of that i get weak mentally quick( You can try notice the things around you, what you were doing was good, but notice the stuff, the texture of the ground, your wall, your room, try notice things about it.. Be aware what it looks like so that in a dream you are more aware and when you walk into the place where you were doing ADA, you'll notice and be like "Hey, this isn't what my room was like" sooner you'll be able to do it everywhere you go all day.

[Iriba]

Alright, first throw away the ADA and frequent-RC stuff, if these don't work then that means you don't have a stable foundation for LDing. I good thing to do first is make a list of what you want to do in your dreams, make it as long as possible as this should get you motivated again. Then some questions: What techniques do you currently try for LDing and which ones have you tried in the past? When did you do these techniques? About the WILD, it's not scary. People sometimes come with horrible stories but actually my hallucinations are usually very peacefull, like flies flying over my head and a low Buzz in my ear. I listed the most important things i want to do, but i can't get motivation :/ I only do MILD and WBTB, almost every night, since i am in holiday You can try notice the things around you, what you were doing was good, but notice the stuff, the texture of the ground, your wall, your room, try notice things about it.. Be aware what it looks like so that in a dream you are more aware and when you walk into the place where you were doing ADA, you'll notice and be like "Hey, this isn't what my room was like" sooner you'll be able to do it everywhere you go all day. That's a good way too, but what i used to do is remember my field of vision so that my visualization for MILD would be better also would increase my field of vision in my dreams

[DenysMT]

I would say if you have a real desire to have stronger lucid dreams then just keep trying. Try everything you can think of. I've had minimal success over the past 5 months (maybe 3 LDs), so maybe I'm not the best person to be giving advice. But I am determined to keep trying. Sparkley's advice seems very good to me. Really get your motivation going. Think about what you would like to do in your dreams: flying, time travel, sex. Also reading about it through books and internet will help to saturate your mind with the thought of it. You know you can do it because you've done it before. Good Luck.

[Iriba]

I would say if you have a real desire to have stronger lucid dreams then just keep trying. Try everything you can think of. I've had minimal success over the past 5 months (maybe 3 LDs), so maybe I'm not the best person to be giving advice. But I am determined to keep trying. Sparkley's advice seems very good to me. Really get your motivation going. Think about what you would like to do in your dreams: flying, time travel, sex. Also reading about it through books and internet will help to saturate your mind with the thought of it. You know you can do it because you've done it before. Good Luck. I really want to do it, i really want to have one, but my motivation doesn't go up no matter what i do, and i wake up each day and i feel like my mind is already set that i'm not dreaming i'm in real life

[Wolfdog]

How consistent are you when practicing for lucid dreaming? Is it daily, on weekends, maybe three or four days a week? In relation to what you've been doing, did you tried changing practices or did you keep trying the same stuff over and over again for the past couple of years? Also, what about stress? Have you been getting enough sleep time? Do you find yourself all day thinking about lucid dreaming and how you can achieve it so much that it might stress you out and become a hindrance to your progress?

[LDman]

I listed the most important things i want to do, but i can't get motivation :/ I only do MILD and WBTB, almost every night, since i am in holiday Okay, I think you should try using and experimenting with new techniques, laying your eggs in one basket might not work. How about trying SSILD? [removed outside link, only because he posted the same tutorial here, and he also answers questions here http://www.dreamviews.com/induction-...eam-ssild.html] ~gab For me it's my most succesfull technique to date, I'd say it has a 70% succes rate if you do it good. Combine it with WBTB and I think you will have atleast 1 lucid dream in the next 2 weeks.

[Memm]

You should be able to get at least a couple of LDs a week with WILD even if everything else is failing for whatever reason. DILDs used to come pretty easily to me, but that was a few years ago, now I'm trying to figure out exactly what it was that gave me my DILD ability before I lost it. I think like with most things you have to find that "something" that pushes your skills forward, sometimes it takes a little while to find it but once you do everything goes smoothly and easily so don't give up just treat it all as an interesting experiment. Also like the saying goes "if you keep one eye on your goal you only have one eye left to work with", think about what you can work on right now rather than daydreaming about lucid dreaming. Might be why you're just dreaming about LDs instead of getting them! ;]

[Iriba]

Okay, I think you should try using and experimenting with new techniques, laying your eggs in one basket might not work. How about trying SSILD? [removed outside link, only because he posted the same tutorial here, and he also answers questions here http://www.dreamviews.com/induction-...eam-ssild.html] ~gab For me it's my most succesfull technique to date, I'd say it has a 70% succes rate if you do it good. Combine it with WBTB and I think you will have atleast 1 lucid dream in the next 2 weeks. i just tried it 4 times by now, and nothing happened literally :/

[LDman]

i just tried it 4 times by now, and nothing happened literally :/ Um... have you thought of doing DEILD?

[Memm]

i just tried it 4 times by now, and nothing happened literally :/ 4 days is nothing unless you have a ton of experience, although I got a WILD with it on my second night it was only because I'm already quite good at WILDs, it took me 27 days to get something useful out of SSILD which I am now building upon to hopefully be able to do it every night. http://www.dreamviews.com/research/1...ml#post2114531 Don't give up until you're 100% sure!

[Iriba]

Well guys, 3 years passed and didn't have a lucid yet what should i do? what am i doing wrong?

[n00bf0rlyf3]

Nobody practices LDing for 2 years and only gets 3. Have you actually been trying for 2 years or is it on and off?

[Iriba]

Nobody practices LDing for 2 years and only gets 3. Have you actually been trying for 2 years or is it on and off? I never stopped literally. I just feel my motivation is falling apart now. so i really dont know what should i do

[Memm]

Question is what have you been doing so far?

[Laurelindo]

You should have the right kind of motivation. You might strive only for "lucid dreams", but you should specify what it is that you want to experience in the lucid dreams instead. For example, is there something you dearly want to improve in your waking life, like becoming more social or getting rid of phobias? If it is important enough for you then you can actually practice those things in dreams, so this could be a strong motivation to become lucid. If you go to bed with this intention - to use lucid dreams to practice whatever you want to improve in waking life - then you will be much more determined to become lucid. Also, it seems like you think of lucid dreams as something "very hard". You should stop thinking that way, lucid dreams are just dreams with some extra awareness thrown in. You just need to practice your awareness and your ability to question your current surroundings, and it will eventually start to affect your dreams the same way.

[ThreeCat]

I forgot to mention that i own 4 dream journals actually, and i try to keep aware as possible, but i dont really know how i should do awareness, i mean, there are different ways right? my way is to try to notice everything, my body moving, the smell, the sounds, my thoughts. maybe because of that i get weak mentally quick, but i don't see any other way to do it. About WILD, to be honest i am scared to do it and i really can't get any guts to do it so For three years if practice, you only have four DJs? Do you record dreams every night? What is your recall like? If your recall is not good, you need to work on that before you push for lucidity. You could be lucid and not even remember it. We can only suggest ideas to you; we can't tell you what to do. Everyone starts from the bottom, though: record dreams to build recall, slowly incorporate the awareness and RCing, and find a good induction technique. If MILD is not working, stop using MILD.. Try hypnosis, autosuggestion, positive affirmations, and so on. Don't be frightened of WILD--its a great experience! Don't expect SSILD to work overnight--you may need to adjust the technique. You know you can do this because you've done it before. Keep your successes in mind and keep moving forward.

[Infinityjester]

Try reading some books on confidence and apply this to lucid dreaming.

[Iriba]

For three years if practice, you only have four DJs? Do you record dreams every night? What is your recall like? If your recall is not good, you need to work on that before you push for lucidity. You could be lucid and not even remember it. We can only suggest ideas to you; we can't tell you what to do. Everyone starts from the bottom, though: record dreams to build recall, slowly incorporate the awareness and RCing, and find a good induction technique. If MILD is not working, stop using MILD.. Try hypnosis, autosuggestion, positive affirmations, and so on. Don't be frightened of WILD--its a great experience! Don't expect SSILD to work overnight--you may need to adjust the technique. You know you can do this because you've done it before. Keep your successes in mind and keep moving forward. Yeah i can do it because i've done it before. But seriously 4 years? Something isn't right here

[LucidEveryNight]

Focus on one technique for atleast a month before you give up on it, there's a ton of knowledge to be taken from all these threads, I think confidence and motivation are very important as well. I've been trawling this site for a good few months reading every tutorial every piece of information that may help and I've gone from having one lucid dream a month if I'm lucky to basically lucid any night I choose. That is from determination and from having a burning desire to get lucid as I have lots of things I want to do while lucid. My technique is my own mix of ssild and setting an intent to become aware when I transition from awake to asleep all of this was learnt from tutorials and people's advice on this site so my advice (from a novice lucid dreamer) is to read as much as you can and become motivated again you will achieve it if you really put your mind to it!

[Iriba]

Focus on one technique for atleast a month before you give up on it, there's a ton of knowledge to be taken from all these threads, I think confidence and motivation are very important as well. I've been trawling this site for a good few months reading every tutorial every piece of information that may help and I've gone from having one lucid dream a month if I'm lucky to basically lucid any night I choose. That is from determination and from having a burning desire to get lucid as I have lots of things I want to do while lucid. My technique is my own mix of ssild and setting an intent to become aware when I transition from awake to asleep all of this was learnt from tutorials and people's advice on this site so my advice (from a novice lucid dreamer) is to read as much as you can and become motivated again you will achieve it if you really put your mind to it! I focused on ADA + WBTB + MILD all these years, and none worked for me. I've been trying SSILD recently, but i can't sleep when i do SSILD I don't know what to do anymore

[FryingMan]

How's your dream recall these days? I recently realized that there's a (huge) difference between "desire" and "need" -- real results come from "need". You have to create the need. Note what LucidEveryNight writes: I've gone from having one lucid dream a month if I'm lucky to basically lucid any night I choose. That is from determination and from having a burning desire to get lucid That is what I call "need," and is probably the single-most important factor in success in dreaming (both recall and lucidity). Everything flows from this, you change your life for a need, a desire can last for a long time but you can put it on your mental back burner and let it simmer there for a long time.