I've been staying away from this thread the best I can, but it isn't the discussion I have a problem with, its how the very first post started off the discussion. The guy who started it, now absent, was a nuisance to DV. He ran from thread to thread attacking them and started threads attacking good methods, not just lucidology. This thread started off pushing newbies away from very good methods that work very well for many people, Hence, knocking newbies out of many opportunities for lucidity, thus slowing their progress. Had I listened to the things I found here about lucidology when I first found it, as a newbie, I would be far behind from where I am now. I found this thread when I first joined DV and went against its advice eventually finding that it was misinformation. THAT is why I am here. I want to help as many people as I can to learn lucid dreaming, not set them back as this thread would have me had I paid it any attention. Also, lucidology 101 is free and has lots of good information for New lucid dreamers. I'm not trying to sell L102, because it's also easily found for free.
Guys, I was a newbie. Regardless of whether these methods work for everyone, They work very very well for some newbies and should be discussed in a fair light as well.
We aren't enemies as I would assume we all have the same goals for the DV community.
Anyways, have fun here guys.
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