Thread: International Oneironaut Shared Dreaming Project

Welcome I will update your info when I get on my computer later. (on iPhone) hope to see you tonight!

Originally Posted by Katsuno

Thank you for letting me join



Haha I'm not neji I just wear his clothes
I use a similar fighting style but I invented my own techniques. See you in the dreamworld and you better be ready...


Well but isn't it boring in a shared dream battle if everyone is invincible? Maybe make special rules just for battles against other dreamers.

For the shared dreaming I don't think that timezones are important at all. The time in the dream world is much different...

Cya Tonight

Invincible is the wrong word. The word should be "immortal."

Originally Posted by Sageous

Okay, here’s the thing.

Now I am by no means a skeptic -- indeed, I am a firm believer in the underlying forces that make dream sharing not only possible but likely a thing that happens all the time, whether we know it or not. Kudos to you Atras for putting this expedition together…But I do see a real problem with one aspect: How will you ever recognize each other, even if you do all manage to align your thought energy into one single dream? Think about it…who among you can actually say exactly what you look like in a dream, much less what shape other people might assign to you when your consciousness arrives at the temple?

Though you are sure that you look just right, your presence might be perceived by others as something completely different than you expect, and each of the others there might see something completely different. For instance, you might show up, feeling all prepped in your dream character/video game garb, but someone else there might see you as a lamppost, while someone else sees a boulder, and yet another sees a purple giraffe. And vise-versa: you might arrive at the temple (or rather the temple-construct you guys cleverly used to determine a unified plane of thought -- good move BTW) and find yourself surrounded by Japanese tourists angry at your intrusion into their photos, or maybe an assortment of street signs or a clan of spider monkeys. Anyway, I think you get my point: The dream sharing might work perfectly, but without a real frame of reference there is no way you’ll be able to recognize that you’re all meeting.

What would be real? I think that this experiment would work if you all knew each other very well -- as in for many years, to the point where you can finish each other’s sentences; in other words a deep intimacy exists between you, one that that can transcend simple visual signals. Then at least there would be some frame of reference that might actually accompany your consciousness into the dream. Powerful things like dream sharing are driven by things that are deeper than human perception; to intentionally share dreams really does require more prep than a name and a description.

That said, for what it’s worth I’ll likely be nosing around that temple next time because hey, you never know!

Sorry in advance…I’ll take whatever hits you care to throw at me now…

You bring up a good point. In some ways it is easier to do dream sharing with fewer people because of recognition, but this massive project will increase the likelihood of shared dreams.

Originally Posted by Sageous

Yes, but MrIrony, how will you know that your two keyblades will actually look like two keyblades to someone else? One man's keyblade might be another man's furry mitten...

The planes of higher consciousness on which you seek to tread were not designed around the English language or, gods help us all, video game costumes. Perception is an incredibly subjective thing, even among people who share similar interests. This is true in the waking world, and infinitely more true in the dreaming worlds, where all creation is up to the dreamer. What you are trying to look like might -- no, probably will -- wind up being something much different by the time the image is perceived by another dreamer. Even that beacon might be perceived differently as each dreamer witnesses it.

Again, I'm not being skeptical here; just realistic. Instead of trying to present unique images to each other, you guys might consider agreeing to all concentrate as you go to sleep on one shared image (a la that pyramid) of yourselves, so that there is a running theme buried a little deeper in your consciousnesses when you meet. That might be something that gets recognized by all.

Either that, or make a point of greeting every lamp post you see as a fellow dreamer!

Please read shared dream FAQ. There are links to two shared dream DJ's. You will see confusing a real person with an inanimate object happens in dreams as often as waking life.

Out of the Black Sun



destiny

Nomad, I really wonder where you get those great images/vids

mee too...

Ughh! at school beyond dreaming is blocked! Im in a dry spell right now. So ill meet u at the piramid in about 2 weeks!

Originally Posted by WakingNomad

Please read shared dream FAQ. There are links to two shared dream DJ's. You will see confusing a real person with an inanimate object happens in dreams as often as waking life.

Though I don't remember ever confusing a living being for a lamp post in waking life, I'll give you that because it is not what I meant. What I meant was that there is no vehicle to recognize, necessarily, another dreamer in a shared dream, because their perceived presence may not actually be what you expect it to be.

Originally Posted by Sageous

Though I don't remember ever confusing a living being for a lamp post in waking life, I'll give you that because it is not what I meant. What I meant was that there is no vehicle to recognize, necessarily, another dreamer in a shared dream, because their perceived presence may not actually be what you expect it to be.

What is your source?

wait a second cant you get out of a lucid when you want ? i mean wake up ? if someone kills someone in a dream will he wakeup in waking life ?

Originally Posted by wana

wait a second cant you get out of a lucid when you want ? i mean wake up ? if someone kills someone in a dream will he wakeup in waking life ?

1) Sometimes.

2) Sometimes.

Alright, going out with buddies tonight so I might not sleep well enough for lucidity. Hrm. We'll see. Good luck to all of you! And 38!

Hm... I almost want to suggest each person have their own short unique phrase each meeting that they pm to Atras2 before going to bed, so even if they don't remember the dream, they can see if they were there anyways. Might be needlessly complex... A way to ID people without relying on recall may be beneficial, and it being individual and not shared here ensures no one will dream of another person as a DC.

TONIGHT! DON'T FORGET 38!!!! see you guys at the temple!

Excited for this tonight I've had limited success with shared dreaming before, interested to hear results and see if anything happens

Originally Posted by Windhover@

yup http://www.dreamviews.com/f12/peanut...dreams-110952/

Damn my nut allergies!

Originally Posted by Sageous

Though I don't remember ever confusing a living being for a lamp post in waking life, I'll give you that because it is not what I meant. What I meant was that there is no vehicle to recognize, necessarily, another dreamer in a shared dream, because their perceived presence may not actually be what you expect it to be.

That might be true, but based on people's experiences on dv and elsewhere, that doesnt seem to be the case. you can't just look at this from the angle of personal perception and experiences. For example how my perception of the colour green is your blue. We are in scientifically uncharted territory!
If we are in fact sharing dreams, then we must also be sharing information via thought/energy/quantum information or w/e. This shared information may be what brings us to see others how they see themselves. How person A perceives themselves, or their own mental image, could be translated into person B's mind and influence B's perception in a similar way, giving A their already created appearance.

This is just my hypothesis....

Oh and good luck guys! Thanks for the reference pics Nomad! I'm sure they'll be lots of help

thought this picture will motivate you guys to try extra hard tonight and be awesome. 38

*EDIT*
after 2 failed attempts to get pictures of leeroy jenkins up. Ive decided to take matters to my own hands

LEEROY JENKINS

-Brendan Goodenough
-160-something cm, dark blond hair, brown-ish eyes..
-Unknown
-Not too sure.. mainly been focusing on dream recall
-NZST +12:00 GMT

I don't mean to sound "skeptic like" but isn't time subjective? In other words yes shared dreaming is very possible however I may have a dream with a different dreamer in it but that dreamer may not experience this dream until say a week later?

Real Name: Chantal
Physical Description: Brownish-blonde shoulderlength hair, about 164cm in height (5ft 3inch I think), female, muscular, paleish skin, dark green eyes (if you look close brown and blue is visable), usually waer t-shirt and shorts- usually guys clothes (I can't stand girly clothes).
Astral Description: Nothing changes really, just usually I end up covered in blood with my clothes torn up, or sometimes I am not me and I am someone else, when that is the case then I don't know the appearance.
Frequency of LD's: My usual dream is Lucid. No lies, every night, every dream I have is a lucid dream. I can always controll it.
Timezone: NZT +12:00 GMT (First country to see the sun!)

Originally Posted by quassom

I don't mean to sound "skeptic like" but isn't time subjective? In other words yes shared dreaming is very possible however I may have a dream with a different dreamer in it but that dreamer may not experience this dream until say a week later?

As it was stated above - sleeping at the same time increases the possibility of a shared dream to take place, but I guess nobody can say for sure, just because we don't yet know the mechanism behind the whole process and it's not that easy of a task to percieve time in any other way rather then how we know it IRL.
But people have been reporting to have shared dreams in even longer periods than a week...so, if we don't know how it can happen it doesn't mean it can't.

Ok, a lot of people from New Zealand as I see, are you guys doing it tonight?

38 it is.

I'll be seeing you guys tonight at the pyramid. I'll be looking forward to seeing you.

See You all tonight.

Ok everyone's info should be updated. If I missed anyone please let me know, as there is a lot of participants now so it's possible I could've missed someone. And see you all tonight! Remember to pm me your results. Even if you believe they are insignificant, every bit helps.

A dream incubation video.