Thread: Magnetic Pineal Gland Stimulation Experiment

Have you tried radionics software like EASYrad? If not, you may be wrong. I understand that we need to be independent but we need understand that we always need a step up. If we don't have that much energy, then we need help. On our own, we can't help much.

Yes. No effect. Well maybe there is effect- it made me agitated and concentration was impossible, I only wished to have silence. Oh silence... after I turned it off the SILENCE was godlike
Binaural beats can be good... even better are binaural beats combined with visual input(via special glasses), But all this is bad, if one can't concentrate into inside... And sounds make my concentration to go on them, outside... not inside into my... core? soul??? I don't know how to name it. When I wan't to do OBE(to astral or other dimensions), or lucid dreaming(through WILD), my focus must go inside. I relax and concentrate to block input of senses as much as possible.
Energy flows inside... and I can feel it clearer in deep relaxation. Waves of energy wash over me from feet to head and away. Near of possibility to go out of body I can often see it as if bright light washes over me. And it often hums... it's like if it is singing to me inside of me. Once in thoughtless meditation, the effects cease and I remain in peaceful black void.

Originally Posted by Psionik

Yes. No effect. Well maybe there is effect- it made me agitated and concentration was impossible, I only wished to have silence. Oh silence... after I turned it off the SILENCE was godlike
Binaural beats can be good... even better are binaural beats combined with visual input(via special glasses), But all this is bad, if one can't concentrate into inside... And sounds make my concentration to go on them, outside... not inside into my... core? soul??? I don't know how to name it. When I wan't to do OBE(to astral or other dimensions), or lucid dreaming(through WILD), my focus must go inside. I relax and concentrate to block input of senses as much as possible.
Energy flows inside... and I can feel it clearer in deep relaxation. Waves of energy wash over me from feet to head and away. Near of possibility to go out of body I can often see it as if bright light washes over me. And it often hums... it's like if it is singing to me inside of me. Once in thoughtless meditation, the effects cease and I remain in peaceful black void.

Binaural beats has nothing to do with radionics software. I am on about how to manifest the dreams or thoughts, not how to focus and do an astral travel. I do not want to travel in to a 'surreal world'. I heard many stories but most of them are not convincing. However, some popular remote viewers like Lynn Buchnan (ex USA military) use isochronic or binaural waves.


The energy frequency would create the reality. Binaural or isochronic would not work for the first time as brain tends to get irritated. If you want to do so, you need to start up with alpha/beta wave for 2 weeks conditioning. Then switch into Alpha/Theta or so on. Someone who starts with THETA level to manifest or project (astral) would not get there as it is so disturbing. For many people THETA level is a disturbing phase while they are conscious so they are not going to focus and therefore no way to accomplish their goals.

I do not know if you have tried radionics software ( not isochronic or binaural waves).

Originally Posted by Jethro

Binaural beats has nothing to do with radionics software. I am on about how to manifest the dreams or thoughts, not how to focus and do an astral travel. I do not want to travel in to a 'surreal world'. I heard many stories but most of them are not convincing. However, some popular remote viewers like Lynn Buchnan (ex USA military) use isochronic or binaural waves.

Of course they are not. Sound of that EasyRad is horrible. Binaural beats I can at least tolerate, and concentrate on them... but they don't help me to do LD or OBE. I tried it for a few weeks a few years ago. In that few weeks I hadn't achieved any LD or OBE... Concentration directed outside is simply not the way.
I tried maybe 20 years ago binaural beats coupled with visual stimulation(small aparatus named MindPower)... I used it for about 2 years. For different purposes, it has I think 9 programs for different uses, different brainwave stimulation. I used it on top my normal routine relaxation and concentration exercises. Therefore it was quite simple to compare effects on my mind state... I hadn't managed to do any OBE with its help, nor to make deeper concentration or relaxation than I could do without it. On the contrary... But I tried it again and again, curious whether it doesn't need time. But results told me that it was not the case. I found as main problem stimulation on my senses.
LD is an special sort of dream... I'm not convicted of usability of it much(but I try to research it)... Now OBE is something different.

Originally Posted by Jethro

The energy frequency would create the reality. Binaural or isochronic would not work for the first time as brain tends to get irritated. If you want to do so, you need to start up with alpha/beta wave for 2 weeks conditioning. Then switch into Alpha/Theta or so on. Someone who starts with THETA level to manifest or project (astral) would not get there as it is so disturbing. For many people THETA level is a disturbing phase while they are conscious so they are not going to focus and therefore no way to accomplish their goals.

I do not know if you have tried radionics software ( not isochronic or binaural waves).

I tried it when it was mentioned... I tried many things since I started to do experiments first for learning to do OBE, then exercises to do it more efficiently.
I set volume on low because it made feel my ears pain. And even if it was at very low and tolerable sound level, it was very distracting. I was feeling strong emotions of denial. I felt very strong urges to make the sound stop. I couldn't tolerate it for more than approximately 15 minutes.

Maybe the magnets help the chakras receive more cosmic energy from the universe. Could be the proper frequency needs to be attained to get results.

Using these magnets made me think of Steven Gibbs, the man who makes and sells the Hyper Dimensional Resonator, for time travel, or astral projection. Using a powerful electromagnetic field on your heart chakra, might produce a much more effect than magnets.

May be you have full of energy in your chakras. Isochrnic or binaural doesn't work for me. Radionic software only fastens my targets, but not all. I wanted certain things and its happened but I wanted something which I know is difficult, so it didnt happen.

achieved target : $1000+ in 3-4 days work ( self- employed)
Non achieved target: fell out with my friends and wanted them back (did not happen). It ended up in accusation and fight though I did not do any mistake. Still I want them back as I miss them and I have no other good friends now.

I rigged up a flat, strong, harddrive magnet to a headband, so the non attracting side ( south pole ? ), is facing forehead, about an inch away.
A harddrive magnet has the " magnet " glued to a piece of metal. The side with the metal does not attract, the side with the magnet, does attract.
Going to start using it today, March 25th, for 30 to 45 minutes per day.

Originally Posted by rodan

I rigged up a flat, strong, harddrive magnet to a headband, so the non attracting side ( south pole ? ), is facing forehead, about an inch away.
A harddrive magnet has the " magnet " glued to a piece of metal. The side with the metal does not attract, the side with the magnet, does attract.
Going to start using it today, March 25th, for 30 to 45 minutes per day.

Woke up about an hour after falling asleep. Was sleeping on my left side. As my eyes opened, just for a second, I saw a man, crouched down, next to my bed. He saw I awakened, then, disappeared. I didn't get a good look at him.
He looked like a regular human male, with a long sleeved shirt on, and slacks or jeans, from what I saw. It startled him to see I woke up.
It wasn't a dream. Something woke me up, and as I opened my eyes, I saw the ma, just for a second, then he disappeared.

On another point, I figured out how to rig up two more magnets, one on left side of forehead, one on the right. So, now, I can have one in the middle, and, one on each side. The theory: using magnets to stimulate both left and right brain activity.

Binaural beats possibly work by ways of electromagnetic beats rather than acoustical. Meaning you won't even need sound to achieve a higher/lower resonance inside the brain.

Also, i opt for plants as a source of iron rather than supplements. Same deal with melatonin. Just sharing lifestyle matters. hehe.

Wow, the information in this thread is amazing! Thanks y'all! Especially Jethro. But all of this information is awe inspiring to me. Going to experiment with magnets asap.

I've used the method of having three, flat harddrive magnets, attached to a headband, one in the center, one of the left and one on the right, of the forehead.

Today is my third day with headband and three magnets. The middle magnet, is positioned an inch off the surface of the forehead. The other two, just flat on the headband, magnets against skin of forehead when I have headband positioned.

Yesterday, I used it in 20 to 30 minute segments, three times. This morning, I woke up with a mild headache. The day before, I woke up with a mild headache. That first day, I had the headband on for about 45 minutes, only once, right before falling asleep.

To me, getting mild headaches, from using this approach, could mean I'm stimulating the brain, both left, and right side. I think of it as though of exercising muscles. When you use muscles that haven't been used in a while, they become sore, for the first few days, till you get them back in shape.

cant find such magnet in belgium

I stayed off using magnets for a short time. Didn't make it the full 30 days, though, long enough to believe the magnets do affect something in the brain. To review, I had awaken, three days, with a mild headache, that went away in a short time. After the first few days, no longer any headaches.

Didn't experience anything paranormal since that one night of waking up, seeing the man next to bed, then disappearing in a second or two. I remember the startled look on his face, when he saw my eyes opened. This occurred about an hour, to an hour and a half, after I had fallen asleep that night.

Going to stay off magnet for a little while, for other reasons unrelated reasons. Will post in this thread again, when I start back up.

seems scary! no braindamage? i"ll wil try soon as i find the correct magnet

Originally Posted by rodan

I stayed off using magnets for a short time. Didn't make it the full 30 days, though, long enough to believe the magnets do affect something in the brain. To review, I had awaken, three days, with a mild headache, that went away in a short time. After the first few days, no longer any headaches.

Didn't experience anything paranormal since that one night of waking up, seeing the man next to bed, then disappearing in a second or two. I remember the startled look on his face, when he saw my eyes opened. This occurred about an hour, to an hour and a half, after I had fallen asleep that night.

Going to stay off magnet for a little while, for other reasons unrelated reasons. Will post in this thread again, when I start back up.

Originally Posted by morris

seems scary! no braindamage? i"ll wil try soon as i find the correct magnet

Well, it's possible the magnet(s) could have a negative effect on the brain. Just because they sell magnetic headbands, doesn't mean it's safe. I did experience mild headaches the first three days of using them, upon awakening in the morning, and, I only had the headband on, for less than 45 minutes per day.

I've taken a break from this experiment, but, do plan on doing it again, very soon.

[ i'll whil try it and keep you informd

QUOTE=rodan;2097825]Well, it's possible the magnet(s) could have a negative effect on the brain. Just because they sell magnetic headbands, doesn't mean it's safe. I did experience mild headaches the first three days of using them, upon awakening in the morning, and, I only had the headband on, for less than 45 minutes per day.

I've taken a break from this experiment, but, do plan on doing it again, very soon.[/QUOTE]

guys, seriously don't do this, especially if you're doing it every day.

There is iron in your brain which definitely gets attracted by the magnet.
It is proven that magnetic fields can damage your brain, and I'm sure the reason why this guy has seen a ghost after 2 weeks, is because magnets cause serious brain and DNA damage

they tried it with mice and found out that their brain cells have changed. That's due to iron atoms and radicals

I'm serious... don't do it

I do share your concern, Conscience.

But.. First of all, iron in the human body is not affected by magnets. As stated in this article... Radicals might be a different story. If there's any effect it is the effect on those molecules that produce them, I think. Changes in brain cells and DNA does not typically have to mean that these are dangerous changes. They might be positive?

Could you link the article because this is actually a very interesting topic and a lot of "pseudoscientist" keep saying that magnets make changes in DNA while "scientists" keep denying that magnets have an effect at all. It is an on-going debate. Only magnetic pulses are an acknowledged scientific fact. So i'm curious which kind of magnets they used in this study you mentioned.

To be fair, magnets exert an interesting quantum mechanical effect that is not notable on an MRI. They have been used and are used for therapy so there's probably not a danger. Pulsating magnets do make physical changes but they usually only last for an hour maximum before things are back to equalebrium. The quantum resonance that they do is akin to a sort of signaling pathway that might be responsible for making DNA changes. I'll have to await Conscience's link to the article to really decide on that for myself.

To be honest, I think it doesn't matter if you did 20 or 30 days of using the magnets.. If you have used them for this long and the only result is a weird hallucination and a mild headache then I woulden't put much faith into it anymore that things are going to progress for the better. Pain is never good and might indicate that you need materials to propograte nerve growth, I think. Or perhaps oxidative stress on blood vessels is the reason for this pain because there isn't actually many regions in the brain which are able to be linked to pain receptors. I'm just speculating here but both examples might be linked.

On the other hand, I do not think you even need magnets or anything to make changes and work with the Chakra system. All this can be done with Visualization and Yoga/breathing exercises quite possibly. Some foods and cleansing might help. Robert Bruce (AP) is an authorative figure on these kinds of things but to be honest not quite my cup of tea. It is an interesting figure though and worth checking out.

Brain can't feel pain, it doesn't have receptors for it. Headache are from cramps of muscles on surface of skull. Cramped muscle has insufficient blood supply... Also lactic acid is forming and can't be washed out of cramped muscle.

Rodan: Maybe your way of magnet holding on place makes worse blood flow...

Originally Posted by Psionik

Brain can't feel pain, it doesn't have receptors for it. Headache are from cramps of muscles on surface of skull. Cramped muscle has insufficient blood supply... Also lactic acid is forming and can't be washed out of cramped muscle.

Rodan: Maybe your way of magnet holding on place makes worse blood flow...

That's good to know. I'd rather it affect my muscles than the brain itself.

Anyway, I've been off the headband magnets for about three or four months now. Just started back up three days ago, and, the morning after the first session, woke up with a headache. ( the night before, I put the headband with a center magnet, and, side magnets, for 45 minutes )

Last night, I took both of the side magnets off the headband, and now just use the center magnet, on the forehead, about an inch from the skin of the forehead. Had it on about 45 minutes before going to sleep.

I haven't had a lucid dream since back when I last used the headband magnet. My sleep pattern is changed, though, since I've last had lucid dreams, too. I get up out of bed one to two hours earlier than I used to, meaning I'm getting less sleep, and, for me, usually the early morning is when I dream and remember them.

Plan on putting the magnet headband when I go to bed, slipping it off after about 30 to 45 minutes, every night.

I doubt such changes would be positive. Our body isn't really "used to" magnetic fields... We get our energy from chemical reactions, there's no evolutionary use for magnets... maybe it doesn't change anything, you can argue about that, but if there's a change, it would be negative I think
humans also aren't "used to" electricity, that's why it's destructive for us
(I'm using the phrase "used to" because my vocabulary is awful and I can't think of a suitable one)

I searched pretty long to find that article, I'm not sure if I'll find it again. But I can ask my father about it, he's a professor at a university for medicine.. he might know something about it

in any case, I'm not an expert and the article I found might have been pseudoscientific... but that magnetic pineal gland stimulation is even more pseudoscientific in the first place. Stuff like other dimensions and ghosts aren't proven. There's no evidence that magnetic fields can get your brain to another dimension or anything like that
it just sounds ridiculous to me
when I read that this guy saw a ghost my first thought was brain damage
now I read people get headaches from it.. whenever something hurts you shouldn't do it. Pain is a sign for damage


why not stimulate your pineal gland by meditation? works much better, for me at least

I have learned that the best way to stimulate the pineal gland is to simply extract DMT from baby fetuses.

Conscience, I have seen a ghost near my bed and floating through the wall after a lucid dream. And quite often see someone standing near my bed. I am quite certain that I do not have brain damage so i am positive that it doesn't really amount to brain damage in this case either. Who knows, it might even be a strong placebo?!

Originally Posted by Dthoughts

I have learned that the best way to stimulate the pineal gland is to simply extract DMT from baby fetuses.

Conscience, I have seen a ghost near my bed and floating through the wall after a lucid dream. And quite often see someone standing near my bed. I am quite certain that I do not have brain damage so i am positive that it doesn't really amount to brain damage in this case either. Who knows, it might even be a strong placebo?!

you might be right.
depends on the context as well imo.

I would be careful though... better save than sorry.

Right now: I do not experiment with magnets anymore

Reason: I found I attract what I want without the magnets. I spend $200 for magnets and I still have it. I did not find anything 'significant' to continue this practice.

So what's new: I am using more affirmation to condition my brain that I am and I can attract more I want. ( even it is for psionics or ESP/ lucid dreaming etc...)

How I am doing: I reaffirm it every day like chanting. I make my own statements. For example, ' I always attract money' Say that as many times in a day.

Struggled: I questioned it many times in the first week but later on I started to realize that mind starts to listen whatever lies we say to it but it takes time. When the mind has dominant conditioning, it listens to the dominant patterns. SO I am working on that. No matter what my goal is whether it is for weight loss or height increase. I found the key is conditioning the mind.

Alternatives: I studied EFT and so on:

I found: nothing new and every new cult uses the same theory called repetition and that is the key to our mind


Lazy?: then it is not for the lazy people. Once you go lazy, always lazy crazy. There is no magic wand.


Comment: My research (personal) is over) but I yet to develop my own statements and condition my mind to it

Feedback: I found it is amazing after 2 weeks from the start and I get what I want ( if it was conditioned)+ inexpensive


Redundancies : no need of visualizations or emotions . Mind works with out those. I heard those stories about vibrations, theta/gamma waves but end of the day none of them are necessary except our belief.


Draw back : you need to get your ass down there (lol!)+ don't expect too much this is not a game for someone who is desperate. This is a step by step upgrade. However, other methods got no guaranteed result. So had better choose this real one. Don't waste money! ( full of charlatans to fool people- they know nothing; ask them to demonstrate and prove their skills first and then learn if you are that desp.. can you ask them to get you $10,000 and demonstrate their power??? lol!) Why would they do for you if they can do it ? They normally want your fees..hehe! No offense meant ( I lost lots of $$$$ for the pursuit of truth)


THe most important: You goal is based on what you believe. So condition your brain to believe in your goal by making simple positive affirmations+ wait for 2-3 weeks for your brain to feel it natural+ expect= achieve it).

For some people it needs more reaffirmation and rewiring to condition because their older belief is too strong. The new belief should be conditioned deeply and dominate the old. Then it starts to execute the task.

Is there any virus?: YEs, some people question the possibility while the affirm it on a regular basis. Basically you are adding that 'virus' into your new belief. As a result, you implant a virus(doubtful) thought or belief in your brain/mind. The result will be = no good!


Sorry= for lecturing. I am 200% my research is over


Challenge:

If anyone thinks this is not true, post some relevant oppositions. It will also help you and me.



Cheerio

Jethro- nicely said. That is what I want to explain to people interested in OBE, yet I fail so many times to convince. The way is very simple, still needs to be followed tirelessly. Otherwise results will be nonexistent, or unsatisfactory.