invade another person's mind

[daramantus]

I have a question. My name is Ryan, and I wanna make a girl fall for me using the lucid dream (or astral projection), wonder if it is possible ... If I enter in a lucid dream and imagine myself in the body of the girl that I like (yes being the girl) and create the scenario of my house with me inside, and then, If I look to me (being the girl) and use the technique of self affirmation, like, "I will kiss you ryan" "I love you ryan" It will go into her mind? She will kiss me after that, in the real world? Can we enter in other people's mind and reprogram it? Please, I need to know it, I want proof that we can't, or I'll become crazy

[VagalTone]

That would be awesome As far i have heard there are reports ( not scientific verification ) of mystics being able to develop a special body to travel physically or to other people's dreams. But your motivation must be clean otherwise you can´t achieve the perfect mental state needed to develop them - or so they say. Catch 22 !!! Aren´t there better (should i say easier) ways to impress that girl ? That would be much more fun too, i guess

[StephL]

That would be awesome It would be absolutely horrifying!! Thank goodness it's only childish fantasy.

[splodeymissile]

Well, I hate to be a miserable sod, but this sounds pretty damn disgusting. And no, we can't do that. Or at least there's no evidence for it.

[Fuzzman]

Personally, I don't think it would be possible or even if it was, it would take a lifetime to cultivate the skill to allow you to do that anyway. Also besides that point, I believe morally it would be wrong to try and influence another person in such a way. As VagalTone said, there are easier ways to get what you want in the physical world without having to waste all your mental power trying to reprogram someone. If you talk to her and she likes you then great, if not then move on.

[daramantus]

She never gave attention to me, :/ was my friend that suggested this, and this blew my mind, he is an practioner of obe and lucid dream too, actually I became a little confused of what he said, I just want to clear my mind that this can't be possible, and then I will try all the ways in the real world, For Sure!!!

[splodeymissile]

Well, that's unfortunate, but considering you were okay with what is tantamount to mind rape, I can't say I have much sympathy. Anyways, I can categorically state that this is impossible. A lot of things can be accomplished with lucid dreams, but this ain't one.

[daramantus]

Well, that's unfortunate, but considering you were okay with what is tantamount to mind rape, I can't say I have much sympathy. Anyways, I can categorically state that this is impossible. A lot of things can be accomplished with lucid dreams, but this ain't one. Yes, he said with so much emphasis, I think he went too far.. It's pretty much impossible. thx guys!!

[ageofthunder]

i dont know if you can. but i'd think it'd be cool if we could have shared dreams by choice. theres a girl i like a lot but i wouldnt brainwash her into liking me.

[Laurelindo]

This sounds an awful lot like Inception, which by the way is just a fictional movie. As far as we know today, a lucid dream is just any random ordinary dream where you happen to know that you are dreaming. If you could "invade another person's mind" in them then you might as well try invading someone's daydreams, that would be more or less the same thing.

[Mismagius]

*Moved to Beyond Dreaming

[Psionik]

People like their freedom. You can't reprogram them. You can speak with her in reality, or you can try forever to train yourself to reach the right mental state to reach this goal. Actually forever could take short time... It is individual. In a dream you can't mask your mental state, your intention. Other side will find it. Your mind doesn't lie. It can choose to lie to itself, but the truth is always there. I always know intuitively whether I can or I can't believe beings that I meet in LD or OBE. I think there is nothing bad to try to say your intended about your feelings through shared dream... If you want risk that the learning process would take maybe as long as years... and risk that when you reach it, she could be repulsed of you- if something is not exactly honest in your mind. (which should be anyway). It is simpler to take normal ways to court your intended. I had a few OBE's and LD's where I was in other person mind. For me it was as if I hear thoughts, as if I see what other person sees. But I'm nearly passive observer there. For example: I appeared in place with one of my friends who lost his relationship and was very sad. I firstly was filling whole room, but then I concentrated into that friend. Then I was in his body with him. I felt his great sadness. His despair. I wanted to help and I sent him a thought to call me by phone, or to come to visit me, thought that I will help. He thought as if it was his own strange thought. There was his own answer - he was full of feeling like he can't contact me, and there was sadness. This OBE was look into future I think. One of possible futures.

[AstralVagabond]

Well, I don't know if such a psychic ability is possible; but if it is, I should remember to make one of the first things I do with it after learning it to travel inside your mind and set things straight so that you don't go off performing telepathic tricks on innocent girls. On a different note, if shared dreaming (homed onto a specific target) is possible then I imagine that such a thing is possible as well - by entering someone else's dream, you could communicate on a deeper level with his/her subconscious just as you can with your own in normal lucid dreams, which I've heard can be quite a deep level - so being able to both learn from and strongly influence another's subconscious mind in-dream. But I'm not sure how easy/effective this technique can be.

[crypticcello]

No, you can't enter another person's mind because you can never escape your own. Sure, you can learn to sense the subtle energies and flows that a mind imprints in the etheric field, or learn to subliminally alter a person's mentality, but you may never invade another's mind. This is forbidden by nature's law.

[mcwillis]

I have a question. My name is Ryan, and I wanna make a girl fall for me using the lucid dream (or astral projection), wonder if it is possible ... It is very easy to make someone fall in love you by performing a particular occult technique in a lucid dream. I will never reveal it here as I don't want the negative karma of revealing it here and people abusing the technique. However, the information is out there if you look hard enough.

[TwitchLucidity]

I think maybe it would be better to maybe impress her without mind rape and programming, you sick mongel (just kidding, I know you think its fake now) But yeah, even if it was true, try other ways to impress her. Go talk to her, or something

[TwoCrystalCups]

[The Cusp]

If I enter in a lucid dream and imagine myself in the body of the girl that I like (yes being the girl) and create the scenario of my house with me inside, and then, If I look to me (being the girl) and use the technique of self affirmation, like, "I will kiss you ryan" "I love you ryan" Fist of all, lol. Everything about that is so wrong. If you want to get this girl to like you using dreams, you're going to want use Remote Dream Influencing. You'll want to cause her to have dreams about sexing you up. Assuming you are able to this, how does this make her want you in RL? Whether she remembers those dreams or not, the more she has them, the more she will begin to associate you with gettin' it on. Think of it as stacking the deck in your favor. If she's dreaming about you every night, it's only a matter of time before she follows that template you've given her. As for how to do remote dream influencing, just focus your attention. Whatever helps you do that. You can check out my old Animal of the Month threads. http://www.dreamviews.com/deep-dream...mal-month.html

[daramantus]

Fist of all, lol. Everything about that is so wrong. If you want to get this girl to like you using dreams, you're going to want use Remote Dream Influencing. You'll want to cause her to have dreams about sexing you up. Assuming you are able to this, how does this make her want you in RL? Whether she remembers those dreams or not, the more she has them, the more she will begin to associate you with gettin' it on. Think of it as stacking the deck in your favor. If she's dreaming about you every night, it's only a matter of time before she follows that template you've given her. As for how to do remote dream influencing, just focus your attention. Whatever helps you do that. You can check out my old Animal of the Month threads. http://www.dreamviews.com/deep-dream...mal-month.html So, when I dream that I'm kissing a girl that I didn't even talk or desire, she used this RDI unconsciously?

[The Cusp]

So, when I dream that I'm kissing a girl that I didn't even talk or desire, she used this RDI unconsciously? No, when she dreams about you, she might begin to think of you as viable mate.

[Psionik]

So, when I dream that I'm kissing a girl that I didn't even talk or desire, she used this RDI unconsciously? No, when she dreams about you, she might begin to think of you as viable mate. Low probability of that. I had many similar dreams in past- no connection to anything unusual(dream telepathy). More likely is, that your subconscious mind is somehow liking that girl.

[snoop]

I have a question. My name is Ryan, and I wanna make a girl fall for me using the lucid dream (or astral projection), wonder if it is possible ... If I enter in a lucid dream and imagine myself in the body of the girl that I like (yes being the girl) and create the scenario of my house with me inside, and then, If I look to me (being the girl) and use the technique of self affirmation, like, "I will kiss you ryan" "I love you ryan" It will go into her mind? She will kiss me after that, in the real world? Can we enter in other people's mind and reprogram it? Please, I need to know it, I want proof that we can't, or I'll become crazy Here's a crazy idea, talk to the girl you want to fall for you like a regular person and maybe, just maybe, things will work out. vOv

[The Cusp]

Not sure we're talking about the same thing. I mean try to influence this girl's dreams remotely while you are still awake, this has nothing to do with your dreams. If you started dreaming about the same person every night for no apparent reason, might you not give them more consideration?

[Psionik]

Oh... Apparently I wrote about something else. Now when I read it it looks like reverse thing. A man dreams about girl because she thinks/dreams about him. When I dream about someone more often, it means I'm subconsciously concerned about him/her. If I had to influence someones dreams from waking state, I would at least try to do that through deep concentration/meditation. I didn't try to do exactly that... only something somewhat similar with my wife- it didn't function. I think, if sharing (or as is writen here influencing) dream storyline of others has to function, I have bigger chance to do that from lucid dream. The more I think about my experiments to do that through OBE, the more I'm convinced that it is possible only between two travelers.