Thread: Supernatural Abilities/Skills

Sigh, should I even bother?

I finally, after years of barely saying anything other than "I do not choose to speak about myself" have the brashness to give a single example of what I am talking about, for the benefit of someone honestly wanting to know if such things exist, and now Sageous is suggesting I am embarrassing myself? I am sure more than a few members would have liked me to explain more, but clearly it is something I should continue to avoid.

Sageous, you should know for a fact by now that my belief system says this reality is composed of of what you would call thought energy, AND that I have repeatedly stated that the laws governing reality are far closer to dream energy than anything else. Also, in my belief system that fact explains how many things amazing are possible.

Pretending or falsely convincing myself? Aren't you a little pompous. Sageous, I am 43 years old with a doctorate in Pharmacy, a black belt in Jujitsu (something taking years of discipline) and by every standard very good if not mastry level in lucid dreaming and kundalini (two arts requiring years of discipline). After a lifetime of daily use of this stuff, I think I would know if I was full of shit.



Peace everyone. Those who honestly wanted an answer, you have my answer, and I will leave it in place for any hope it gives you despite it apparently being an embarrassment. I will again withhold knowledge and information from you all for the sake of my own beliefs in quiet anonymity (oh, and to avoid embarrassing myself in such a bad way.)

P.S.
Sageous, lets laugh a little and not let this come between us. Peace and love everybody. LOL And may the force be with you!!!

Originally Posted by sivason

Sigh, should I even bother?

I finally, after years of barely saying anything other than ..............

Sivason, have a snickers bar and get some sleep. You're a b@tch when you're hungry.

All apologies, Sivason.

I was not making a personal attack on you or your belief systems, I was not saying that you personally ought to be embarrassed, and I regret that you read me that way (though on rereading my post I can see how you did). I have always respected your beliefs, and am regularly impressed by your experience. In truth I was speaking in general, and honestly wasn't even considering your personal example. I was speaking more to folks who are looking at street lights and deciding they are controlling them, without taking anything else into account (like coincidence).

I believe I even acknowledged that doing these things fit into your own belief systems, didn't I? And yes, if you feed me several martinis and talk with me into the night, I very well might find myself conjecturing that one can indeed influence the weather with thought energy... but it would still be conjecture, and I will still refuse to give examples of guys who say they can change the weather, but can't actually do so when asked.

My real concern on this thread is that people be honest with themselves, first and foremost. I was not attacking you, and certainky did not intend to insult you, your beliefs, or your decsion to share your experience in any way, so I am particulary and sincerely sorry I did. I hope you'll forgive and, yes, forget.

It is all good. Certainly the only way I could show you anything is to meet in person and have the fortune to "be allowed" to show you for your own understanding, not my own satisfaction. This is not actually outside the realm of possabilty. Failing to be given the privilage of demonstrating anything to you, we could still end the day with conversation and a drink. Any chance you live near someplace my wife would consider a vacation?

^^ Well, I guess it would depend on what you consider a vacation, but I live in upstate NY, about 4 hours north of Manhattan, four hours south of Montreal, and with pretty much nothing in between except the Hudson Valley and lots of camping.

But you must know that if we meet, it would never be so that you can demonstrate anything at all, but simply so that two wanderers exploring the same unknown country might sit down and chat about our adventures... or just shoot the breeze about nothing at all, because I think we'd get along quite well (so would our wives, I think, given that they get to meet a kindred soul who had to put up with the likes of their husbands). So should you and your wife be in my neck of the woods, let me know; but be assured that you will not be asked to prove anything!

I asked my wife and that area would be new to us, so it is possible at some point. What is the best time for tourist to come?

Originally Posted by sivason

I asked my wife and that area would be new to us, so it is possible at some point. What is the best time for tourist to come?

Summer and Fall are best, I think.

WoW I just had a dream (!!!)

It had a specific object in it, at the end, as I rose to waking consciousness, Ha! Our Dreaming Mind is going to show me the objects to use for my 2015 dream game.

It did that in 2008. I totally forgot.

Next, like in 2008, Our Dreaming Mind,will synchronsticly bring the dream objects to me in waking reality.

My experience from 2008 is that there is only one, single, Dreaming Mind. And Our dream reality and waking, (physical) reality is all the same to "It".

It is like "we" of the waking-world are just dream characters in "Our Dreaming Mind's" Lucid Dream.

I think supernatural abilities are a cool idea and while I can't say I deny their existence, I am inclined to believe that they are nothing more than wishful thinking. I have thought for many years on the following question: what makes humans different from other animals? Why do we build cities but beavers don't? They are capable of doing it, so why don't they? And once when I was in the wilderness, far away from any human settlement, I realized why. Humans all want to be god. I don't know why, but everyone feels it. A lot of people deny it but they are just kidding themselves. I seriously doubt that there has been any person - who is not significantly different from normal people - who has never felt the urge to be powerful. This can manifest in mere ambition. Looking at a field and thinking "wow, I could build a great farm there" is a form of this. Animals do many things similar to humans, but the difference is the reason. They are one with nature, in that they don't go against the natural flow of things. They do what they need to survive, and they are content. Humans not only want to survive, but we want to go beyond that. It is not "can we be prosperous?", it is "how prosperous can we be?". One thing I do not know if I will ever know though; why are we like this?

Originally Posted by Avian

Humans all want to be god. I don't know why, but everyone feels it. A lot of people deny it but they are just kidding themselves. I seriously doubt that there has been any person - who is not significantly different from normal people - who has never felt the urge to be powerful. This can manifest in mere ambition. Looking at a field and thinking "wow, I could build a great farm there" is a form of this. Animals do many things similar to humans, but the difference is the reason. They are one with nature, in that they don't go against the natural flow of things. They do what they need to survive, and they are content. Humans not only want to survive, but we want to go beyond that. It is not "can we be prosperous?", it is "how prosperous can we be?". One thing I do not know if I will ever know though; why are we like this?

Why are humans like this? Because, what separates us from the animals and the angels is that we have free will, awareness, and the ability to reason. If you treat the Genesis both literally and figuratively, God created man and man ate the fruit of knowledge despite God's forewarning. We could have been just happy, but we needed more. Thus, we dug our own graves. We had to die. Not forever, but to teach us a lesson. Just another concept, another way of perceiving things. It says it right in the Genesis, once man ate the fruit he was now like God. We most likely, becoming self-aware, realizing that we had freewill, given the violent ways of nature and the fact it was all that we knew, started to kill each other out of fear. We devised ever more elaborate ways to do it. Now that we have figured out how to share information very quickly, we are accelerating the growth of our intelligence, our insights, the way we interact with the world and those around us, and are paving the way for ourselves. We are Gods already in this sense. We shouldn't think too highly of ourselves, that is not what I am saying, but we should always be inspired to create and express ourselves, and with enough time we will be able to create as much as God has created it/him/she/whatever-self. We aspire to Godliness because it is in our nature, it is who we are, our destiny, whether we realize it now, later, or choose to run from it, it will happen, given enough time.

I've picked up a few skills. Some I've had for ever. Others I've picked up more recently. Since March this year.

Nothing too out of the ordinary. Visions, manifestations and some other things. But I've been experimenting with Intention. And I've done seemingly impossible things with it. It's just a matter of not denying yourself your limitlessness. You truly can do ANYTHING in this life. But you have to Believe that you can. Believing in the impossible is not an easy thing to do but there are those who have done it. Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela, Thomas Edison.

If you want these skills my advice to you is to step outside the dream and set intentions. Write a journal, to catch all the unintentional intentions such as "I can't do it". This is still an intention. You are telling yourself you "can't" and therefore you won't, so stop that. When inside the dream, use the dream to dive into the places you need to go that will bring about your truest you. And then when you are awake watch the world around you. You'll start to see signs. Make note of them. Building your awareness of self and the world will bring you to where you intend to be.

-Rayleigh Light
Author, "TB: Welcome to the Sphere"

Sviason, I believe you speak the truth. I have seen many things in my life time. I am a skeptic by nature and believe that being a skeptic is very healthy. That being said, I know where you are coming from. The reason I believe what you are saying is because everything you have said makes sense. To put it in such a way as this must have taken so much experience and time, really. I appreciate your tenacity and your will to show others the way. It makes a lot of sense that these things cannot be proven because in essence God is no mere play thing, He, it, She, whatever is not some child's toy or a grunt to be commanded around. Such a thing does not beget Him. Why then, should he, have to prove Himself more than he already has? You are alive aren't you? You breathe, you mate, see, you love, you hate, you feel, you hurt, and you deviate from the course that is. You have free will. Such a thing is not to be taken lightly, and to command such power at a whim could never logically work. God exists in everything, as everything, and for to be proven any further than that is without point. So, it is easy to see now why such things are beyond scientific study in the normal sense. That doesn't mean that we shouldn't try, however. I think in due time, things will reveal themselves to us, just as God intended it. Perhaps it is that we are not ready for it, the wisest of the wise have told us so. So, I believe you sviason, I think this is all quite real, and can be if we allow it. Some things, here and there, are bullshit and just wishful thinking, but if we will it, there will be a way. Reality is exactly how we make it, exactly as it is meant to be, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

Consider evolution and the scope of the universe as well. To think you are the center of all things is an arrogant disposition and an highly unlikely one. There are literally billions of galaxies out there, 1 civilization might know a little more then the next off the strength of evolutionary experience and just maybe what we call super natural is basic stuff in some other corners of the universe. We are just a fraction of what is out there to be learned and developed open your mind and your heart and you will know more. - namaste

I just flew around the earth, I am able to create portals to other dimensions, I am able to cure people from diseases by only thinking about it.

Do you believe this?

Originally Posted by Forg

I just flew around the earth, I am able to create portals to other dimensions, I am able to cure people from diseases by only thinking about it.

Do you believe this?

WOW! That is amazing!!! How do you do it?

Not going to say. I do know how, but I won't say it because I don't need to. If I say it, then it will just be for my ego, I will be like: "Look at how much I know!". And I don't want that so yeah. But it is true!

Understand my point :-D?

Originally Posted by Forg

Not going to say. I do know how, but I won't say it because I don't need to. If I say it, then it will just be for my ego, I will be like: "Look at how much I know!". And I don't want that so yeah. But it is true!

Understand my point :-D?

Oh hey, I can totally relate to that! No worries. If I could fly and do that other stuff I certainly would not care if strangers on the internet belived me. You must have a very fufilled and exciting life! With so many positive things in your life, I am sure the opinion of strangers means nothing to you.

I wonder if you can help me out? I have a very sick ferret; he has congestive heart failure. If you can send some healing his way, I would be overjoyed. His name is Cinder and he is in Boise, Idaho. Wow, I sure got lucky that I ran into perhaps the only man around who can help. My wife will be so happy. Thanks in advance.

Originally Posted by sivason

Oh hey, I can totally relate to that! No worries. If I could fly and do that other stuff I certainly would not care if strangers on the internet belived me. You must have a very fufilled and exciting life! With so many positive things in your life, I am sure the opinion of strangers means nothing to you.

I wonder if you can help me out? I have a very sick ferret; he has congestive heart failure. If you can send some healing his way, I would be overjoyed. His name is Cinder and he is in Boise, Idaho. Wow, I sure got lucky that I ran into perhaps the only man around who can help. My wife will be so happy. Thanks in advance.

...Can't tell if sarcasm or not...

^^ I Can...

This thread has gotten so far off topic... I conclude that no one on dreamviews has supernatural abilities.. although I have seen certain claims of such..

Originally Posted by Avian

This thread has gotten so far off topic... I conclude that no one on dreamviews has supernatural abilities.. although I have seen certain claims of such..

Hi Avian, can you explain what you mean by going off topic? I have not seen any of the posts going off topic at all? How does the content of this thread differ from what you hoped for?


Also, you draw a broad conclusion from so little a sampling. You also mention seeing "certain claims of such." Perhaps this would be your conclusion no matter what members shared here, or can you tell me what sort of post a member could make that could have lead you away from such a strong conclusion?



Please note that there is nothing anyone could say on a forum that would change someone's firmly established beliefs. The nature of this thread basically begs anyone who would have answered in the positive to step forward and subject themselves to rudeness and people hoping to make them look foolish. So, imagine a few people live in a much more exciting world than most, why would they bother with saying so on an Internet forum? (Unless perhaps they felt one reader out there needed to hear what they said )Seems like a huge waste of time. Sadly, such people could probably share much, but considering the nature of Internet forums, it is unlikely they will waste their time. Have fun all, peace be with you.

Originally Posted by Avian

This thread has gotten so far off topic... I conclude that no one on dreamviews has supernatural abilities.. although I have seen certain claims of such..

My opinion is there is a 3rd party involved. This 3rd party does ALL the magic.

Originally Posted by Avian

I am looking for reports of supernatural abilities of any kind. This could be a mundane skill such as fighting or acrobatics learned from a dream, knowledge attained from dreaming that one could not have previously known (for example a language), or even better an ability that is abnormal or seemingly impossible such as empathy. I'm not necessarily saying I believe in these things; I just want to know if anyone has experienced them.

Great thread Avian

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I like post #32.

Originally Posted by sivason

Theory 1:

some powerful people are allied with forces that have conciousness but are disembodied. These allies help when and if they think it is good. They don't give a rats fart for the ego of the person and flat out get irritate at being asked for help to "show off." That is not a joke.

I think ALL people are allied with THE third party)

Theory 2: it could be a coincident that a river dries up the night an army needs to cross, perhaps. That river has stopped flowing a few times in history due to landslides. However, the fact that it happened the day it was needed is a miracle and if you shrug it off then you will write off any miracle as a coincidence and that is your loss.

(I think that synchronicity (coincidence) is the footprint of the 3rd party.)

Oh... By-the-way ... My Avatar IS the 3rd party

See point 1:46 of this 3:07 YouTube hahaha

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Edit: changed "in" to "is"

Well it is extremely off-topic in the way that ...well ... it is.. The discussion is simply different than the original post. As for your other arguments... I don't really have an opinion. You might be right, though.

Originally Posted by Avian

Well it is extremely off-topic in the way that ...well ... it is.. The discussion is simply different than the original post. As for your other arguments... I don't really have an opinion. You might be right, though.

The posts being made are efforts to prove points about the main-topic, so they're pretty on topic if I do say so myself.

Claims that people on DV do or do not, and similarly can or cannot have these abilities or powers does about as much in proving anything as saying it is impossible. Yes, it spurs discussion, but truly anybody's opinion on the matter isn't going to make it so. You would do better trying to prove or disprove things or discuss how, rather than waste time trying to discuss if.

Everything I've seen posted to this point has been on topic maybe the burden of proof lies with someone who claims supernatural abilities and then spending some time with them I'm pretty sure Michael Grubbs door is open if u reach out 2 him he's a teacher so he wants to demonstrate. - namaste