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    1. just thoughts

      by , 11-15-2020 at 08:57 AM

      DJ everyday in 3 stages (23rd)
      Weekly/monthly recall
      WBTB ideas (on off)
      good things come in 3s
      dreams (school, Un kid prank, pear, lucy. Lion lady transforming)
      Notice the awareness

      Just some monologues to type out my thoughts and ideas I learned, interesting dreams not included.

      Maybe I need to up DJ game again. I'm not progressing right now. I'm just not thinking lucid dreaming stuff enough.

      I need meaning. A reason. Something to...

      A way just to immerse myself in lucid dreaming stuff again. And maybe DJ is the best way. Maybe not, but I will try it out once again.

      A meaning... as in a way to attach myself to the dream, because dreams have been feeling rather... dull? Maybe some are fun, even meaningful but it's bland. Weekly lucids, but bland. But maybe it's because I'm not giving my dreams the love they deserve? A way to think about it, the dreams, and seeing/recalling them in my mind to impress more of myself, my sensations into dreams, that's what's lacking maybe.

      It's been a while though, since I've posted here. twice I had a break from lucid dreaming. Once from a injury, and it just stopped dreams for a while. And another time I was preoccupied with something. But posting on DV was pretty helpful for a very strong recall I think. The fact that someone else might read your DJ and notice every typos and stuff like that is helpful. It's helpful because it forces me to read it over again to edit and that reading over it really help reinforce and strengthen the recall it seems.

      3 times? Recalling dreams 3 times a day seems to be a sweet spot to keep recall in a strong state. I will try to do that. I remember my best recall was created by that. I wrote them down in steps:

      Jotting- after fully awakening and remembering all dreams, jot them in a few words
      Writing- expand and recall the rest of the dreams and write them down in the middle of the day, just type it out real quickly from the notes
      Digging- try to dig deeper from the plot before, recalling anything that's been forgotten (also attach meanings to dreams)

      I'm just not doing the second and third part of what I used to do as much. But that it was such a good way to improve recall.

      And I should honestly begin to do that again. And I will. I'll do all that for a week, till the 23rd.

      I should also do a weekly review of dreams or something like that. It's something I wanted to do before but never did. Maybe a weekly or monthly review of things I've written. Doesn't even have to be very long, it can even be just skimming everything in the past week or month, and it would only take 5 minutes to do that right? As I'm typing this, please be convinced. DO IT! FUTURE ME! I BELIEVE IN YOU! DO A WEEKLY REVIEW AND POST IT ON THE 23RD! And maybe even a monthly review. I know, I know... it might be chore, some people may make snide comments about your DJ, but that's ok just for a week, and see how it goes. Just do it for a week, you might actually enjoy it. You can stop it anytime after the week if it sucks. But you know that it'll improve your recall tremendously. Thanks and love you!

      What else? WBTB?

      Experimented with it. I've tried asking lucid dreaming advices from different people. But they've said it's (experimenting is) bad and that you should stick to one thing. But you know what? I realized you should do what you should do. Everyone needs to experiment and figure out what works for them. And that person's advice just didn't work for me. Maybe they don't experiment because they are lucid all the time, every time now. But I'm pretty sure they've experimented in their years of non lucidity and they've just forgotten about it, about trying out different stuff and figuring it all out.

      I've found that spacing out WBTBs in between days like 2 days wbtb 2 day off, or 1 day on 2 day off, sort of thing gave me the maximum consecutive lucid days. Maybe the dream just gives time to refresh your mind and let it rest, or maybe it's because you body adjusts to the wbtb times if you do it too often. And if you just stop it before the body adjusts, you get sort of a maximum effect from wbtb each time. So for me, atleast it seems like the wbtb has a sort of 3 day cool down period? It's just like the 3 stages of DJing, it's like good things come in 3s. I wish I could know if other people have similar experience with wbtbs. Who knows, maybe none of this really matters.

      Failure is okay. It's okay to fail really. Failure is the mother of success after all. And if you're so caught up in trying to get everything perfect, just always seeking, seeking for a better way you might not realize that you can just learn from your own mistakes. It's like the wise words, "If it's worth doing, it's worth doing badly." Instead of trying to succeed... just simply be and your best. So that I can notice my own nose because the answer's always right there if I've just paid enough attention to my nose and get lucid from that.

      BUT enough of that! I should just DJ. Freakin do the DJ, even though the dream this time was one of the most uninteresting and the shortest I've had in weeks. I've better keep my promise and DJ gracefully starting now.


      I remember in a classroom, in a school of course. I was sitting beside my friend Un, we were sitting on the same large blocky square desks that were shared btween a couple of students. each desk were shared by maybe 2 students and the way that they sat had oriented them in facing towards the blackboard. Or was it a whiteboard? The classroom had a wooden feel to it, actually the desk was wooden yea, yellow. The teacher was a lady. And the class held about 20 people. It was teenagers. So this school was a highschool methinks. I slightly recall smoeone throwing a paper airplane across from the right side of the class, a boy who sat at the top right, where the entrance door, which was long and slender was at. I was near the back of the class, maybe the very back, about center, slightly to the right. I forget what we did though. We weren't studying in the class I think.

      So me and Un, we leave the class, presumably after the bell and I just simply follow him. Our classroom was located in the southern part of the schoolm second floor. THe floors were white, off white. It was white but it had black speckles in them, sort of looking like the inside of a dragonfruit. The very edge of the floor in the hallways had sort of a dark goldish frame around it, with a thicker frame about the third the length of a shoe and the inner frame, which was the thickness of a pencil about three times the thickness its distance from the outer frame. The floor had a sort of a rubbery feel, it had a kind of traction to it. Anyways we went down the hallway and to the left, down the stairs and went the office there. I think I've been in this particular school in my dreams about 5 times now? maybe 6 or 7. But Un went into the office through the reception an and grabbed ahold of something and stole it from there. I wasn't sure what it was but we left after he grabbed the item.

      I remember it looking like sort of a small rod the size of your hand. It had like a round ball like top connected to like a cylindrical rounded bottom like the bottom of a hairbrush. It was sort of shiny and white in color. Un went into a classrom and used the object and transformed into a child. This class was filled with smaller kids, like elementry. And he was just sort of pulling a prank on the teacher here and pretending he was a student in that class. He did this for a while and I just watched from outside the door. It got boring very fast so I decided to leave him be.

      I was leaving and headed the same direction as before and I met Lucy on the way. We just decided to walk together and maybe walk back home together. Her house was the east or the right side direction of the left front entrance, which was at the lower part of the stairs we took before. There was a fruit stand there right before the entrance and I grabbed a hold of a pear there. I ate it and it was pretty ripe, part of it a bit rotten but otherwise very delicious. It was the soft kind of pear that I enjoyed really. I asked Lucy if she wasnted any, maybe one of the apples there, because those kind of looked fresher than the pears? She just had just kind of apathetic look to her for some reason so I just decided to grab an apple for myself. The apple was also a bit overripe and I thought I'd enjoy the pear more.

      I had a vision here, of a house about 2-4 kilometers west of here. Inside the house and stuff going on. It was on the first floor of a house, about 3-4 people there. I was there briefly but came back to the same spot now.

      Anyways we're headed out the entrance and I tried to ask Lucy what was wrong. She was just so ah humbug and I just didn't want to be near her that much. Then a girl shows up whom I knew from college. She lived to the west side of here and although I lived in the same direction as Lucy, I decided to go home with her instead because Lucy was sort of being a jerk. For the life of me, I can't remember her name. I cans ee her face and remember her beautiful features yet the name just passes me by. M? Muuuh

      I had a few dreams before that. Scribbles hard to read.

      One about a lion lady. I can't even remember now. It was pains, I had real bad shoulder pains and that distracted me pretty badly.

      I'm pretty sure the inspiration of this dream came from my mother though. Although she was not in this dream. Seeds of this dream - mother, lion, fortune teller

      I think the dream was about a lion who transformed into a lady. I had to fight a lion and the lion i was fighting transformed into a lady. Or it was the other way around, the lady trasformed into a lion.


      .. It got me thinking though. Does meditation also have the same 3 day thing? To either take a break once in a while or to at least switch the meditation technique every 3 days or so? Because I notice that I stupor and my meditation quality drops? Or maybe it's simply that you get bored of doing the same thing all the time? I don't know. Maybe everything I've written or thought about is trying to come together into a singular idea or concept. Something like trusting your own feelings? I feel like it's sort of connected to concepts skipper had said.

      But I need to make it my own. In my own words at the moment. The clearest words that I have to describe it are something like,

      Trust your feelings? You get better in doing.

      And that thing I've learned in meditation to notice yourself feeling stuff? Like, you don't have to try to do good? Just notice things more and you naturally become good?

      Is that meditation in its essence? To bring the unconscious to conscious?

      Like... you don't meditate to do something... But you just remove excess thoughts?
      ... A kind of a 2 step process? One part of it is to learn to focus, and be more aware, just to notice more things. Maybe this part isn't even meditation, but simply the act of concentration. But this helps to sharpen your senses. And the other is the noticing of your thoughts/feelings/senses. The noticing of awareness itself. But the goal maybe isn't even to notice the awareness. But when you notice the awareness, you become better at whatever task you are doing. Because you have less mind chatter going on? And because you are better at this "mind clearing". You become more efficient in your art of concentration. And this art of concentration sharpens your senses. And in turn, you see things more vividly, and when you see things more vividly it's easier to notice something off in your dream? Maybe that's the goal of the dream yoga? And you cycle between different "meditations" like sound and stuff to sharpen each sense to maximum amount and to keep them sharpened.

      Is this true? Perhaps, or maybe I'm just sprouting nonsense. But nonetheless it's very interesting to ponder. But note to self - remember to notice yourself pondering.

      Well I didn't realize the font color was white since I was in black mode on the browser. When I tried to submit it just had the error and I copy and pasted it and it just turned out strange for some reason, looked completely normal on my dark mode browser though. I hope no one had to endure reading invisible scripts on a white background. Fixed a few typos, pretty sure there's more but oh well.

      Updated 11-15-2020 at 03:10 PM by 96162

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    2. game projector laptop desktop

      by , 03-24-2019 at 10:53 PM
      I was a little despondent earlier when I woke, just didn't have a LD. But I decided to jot down dreams a bit anyways. I was getting very short LD moments every 2 days lately and I was so frustrated. I wanted many long fun lucid dreams where I have more awareness! But after I thought about what happend in todays dream maybe it helped me analyze stuff and stuff wasn't so bad.

      So I had 2 dreams I think, because I felt uninspired, I only recalled 1 dream in detail.

      dream. It was in a classroom setting, I was playing a video game on a laptop. The game was projected onto the big white canvas thing that you roll out, just can't remember what that's called atm XD. I maybe felt a little anxious from my computer actions being watched by others. So I decided to switch to a desktop for some reason. An old desktop, All in one type. This is probably bled over from a week ago, when I went to help my dad tune up his PC a little. So anyways, I tried loading up the game on the desktop but it had trouble installing a video driver... M290 if I recall. So I looked up the video card driver but just couldn't find it or get it to work. The dream then ends.

      I was also playing a game last night, so at first glance I thought it was just bled over from that event. But upon closer look maybe the dream was really trying to tell me something.

      So the classroom would represent learning I think. Meanwhile the game was the fun thing I was learning in the class (lucid dreaming). The projector could represent that I'm recording the progress online where other's could see, or it could mean something else. Anyways the laptop was newer than the desktop, since it's smaller too, it could mean a new paradigm or the new methods I've been trying that's actually working and progressing well in regards to LD. While the Old desktop could be the old paradigm, beliefs, and old way of doing things that's not working - something like that.And trying to install the driver is like saying, I have the ability to do this like everyone else, but lacking the proper coding stuff to get it working finally. Interestingly the m290, when I googled it showed a 3d printer, so like the desktop's missing the piece to materialize it. It just needs that tiny instruction manual so it can print out tangible physical results.

      Thought about it a bit more and the projector could also represent the ability to astral project or something. Saw some posts regarding raduga's technique. And hukhif's new dream journals popping up. Duno just rambling random stuff but oh well. Since with the graphic driver thing, I knew what I needed, but didn't have it, it could mean a technique that I know, but didn't practice. Maybe a message to try Raduga tech again, or learn Gravity RC.

      I've been getting interested in the gravity RC lately, never did it since I knew it's a hard tech. And I don't want to get into it half-hearted, if I'm gonna do it I'm gonna master it. Because my daytime mindfulness practice is starting to becoming second nature, I could probably maintain it with minimal effort, and do the Gravity RC. Maybe I'll make a post to ask some questions about the Gravity RC.

      For the Raduga tech, since I've been reminded of it randomly on this forum, I thought maybe I could incorporate just a small part of it to my practice. I think the problem with the technique is that you try get into AP/Dream state as you wake up, so you have no time to do dream journalling, and your recall might suffer in the long run. So my thought is that as I wake up, I'd replay the previous dream in my head 2-3 times to ingrain it into my memory, meanwhile trying rolling and other stuff a few times. If it works great, if not then well, it trains prospective memory and that helps with lucid dreaming right?

      Those were my thoughts.

      I did meditation as always, but had the chance to do it outside, since it finally stopped snowing and there's only traces of snow left. Anyways once I reached the zone, I did the MILD mantras, the new ones I thought of yesterday. I really reallly like these new mantras managed to get me excited today too- they get me real excited and I think that was what was missing in the previous mantras that I tried. Emotion, STRONG emotion or feelings might be the missing key to MILD. It's kind of like creating a anti-trauma or a reverse positive trauma kind of; much like how you'd get a bad trauma that could anchor beliefs into your head, you'd also need a strong emotion to create the opposite. Maybe there's a proper word for this positive trauma - positrauma haha

      hmm.. the tuning desktop thing happend a week ago, so perhaps it also indicates current incubation period of 1 week. Who knows?

      Gravity RC/ Raduga on awakening - maybe experiment stuff
      Need strong feelings for most effective MILD and incubation
      Be patient... It's working

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    3. First

      by , 03-19-2019 at 04:08 PM
      First dj entry hopefully I'm doing it right.

      I had 2 non Ld last night. One about staying over at some guys house, other one was about a survival in some kind of safe house, there was some killing and we had to determine who was the culprit for kidnapping everyone.

      I meditated prior to sleep like I usually do and faced a problem that happened before. I'm just too aware and have trouble falling asleep. This happens most if mediate too long although last night's session was pretty short. But anyways what happens is I do feel my body sleeping, it's going numb, almost like sp, but I don't get into sp. I hear some sounds. Third eye area vibrating alot. This lasts for hours and I kind of get a half rest in it like nrem. I think if I just had a rem during it I would be lucid but instead I'm bored in this state limbo. I tried to force a dream by visualizing this time and managed to get some hypnogogic imagery during it and could manipulate it to a certain extent but it just didn't become clear and immersive enough to be called a dream. It's like an almost a dream but missing a few spices. I sas trying to just fall asleep and lose awareness until I could wbtb but had a trouble with that too.
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