Thread: I am having difficulty with dream stabalization

Basically what you need to do to succesfully stabilize your dream is to stop absolutely everything you're doing and anchor yourself into the dream. Then proceed to rub your hands together or look at your hands. Whatever works best for you.

I would recommend reading this tutorial if you haven't already. http://www.dreamviews.com/f14/stabil...entals-116673/

I agree with reading a few more stabilisation tutorials - but to me it sounds like you just need practice Everyone also has the occasional completely unstable dream, and it can happen because of where you're sleeping, what time it is, if you're about to wake up, etc etc.

Sometimes the best option here is to accept that you're going to wake up and instead focus all your intent on waking up without moving and then performing a DEILD (Dream Exit Induced Lucid Dream). If you DEILD, when you re enter the dream you'll be a lot more stable and find you have a much better chance of control, etc

Thanks you guys for your help i wil read up more on DEILD and the stabliization methods and let you know how it goes soon

For me, focusing on dream senses helps the best. Tactile senses are good. If rubbing your hands isn't working, clap your hands really hard, hit or touch objects, etc.

No problem. I wish you the best of luck!

something thats good to remember is that the only restrictions you have in lucid dreams are the ones you make up in your own head.... its harder to apply this truth of course, but i promise its easier then it seems. we make it hard on ourselves a lot. you need to really know that you are in control, and sometimes it comes from experience, and sometimes its just a natural thing. either way good luck and let us know what happens.

"I soon woke up after staring at the hardwood floors." - I would focus on trying to actively participate in the dream world to extend its duration. That is, 'doing' and not 'thinking'.

Originally Posted by whitedreams

"I was lucid in some sort of really unstable world (Felt like I was a baby in the womb just floating around in this dark world) I then rubbed my hands together and things began to stabalize and I found myself in a realy dark version of a room similar to my own.

I'm going to guess this was some sort of WILD or WBTB? Something where you had just fallen asleep, likely without a HI stage. I say that because you room had to have been the focus of your attention not too long ago for the dream to start there.

Originally Posted by whitedreams

I got up out of bed and walked around. I could hear really loud music playing in my head that seem to reflect how my emotions were, or perhaps my emotions reflected the music.

Watch for that, especially with really intense emotions. They affect everything, especially the behavior of DCs. It's useful to observe how this happens for control purposes, but more importantly to stop lack of emotional control.

Originally Posted by whitedreams

As I Kept walking I noticed the softness of the ground and how strange the dream world was.

The ground was likely soft because of the hand rubbing technique you used. Hand rubbing only grants you one point of reference, which is your self. It forces you to focus on your body, thereby stabilizing it. But it doesn't do much for your surroundings. A good stabilization technique should have 3 points of reference. You, the ground and a horizon.

Running is ok, as in involves the body, the ground, but not necessarily a horizon as you can stare at the ground. Jumping is great as it involves focusing on yourself, a ground reference, and an additional height reference, which is what you need for a stable world.

Spinning sucks because it's too disorienting to establish any reference points.

Originally Posted by whitedreams

I though about my mantra and kept repeating "Life is a dream I am Lucid"

Yeah, about that mantra. While I tend to agree that life is a dream, it's not a very practical way to conceptualize lucid dreaming in practice. It severely limits your control options in that it makes you care too much about the scenarios you find yourself in. Like if a monster wants to destroy the world, you have no choice but to use your lucid powers to stop it if you think that this is a real life lucid. But if you know it's a dream, a true dream, you're not bound by the story. Sure, maybe fighting the monster might be fun, but so might that bus full of gymnists over there.

Just saying I've had many potential lucids ruined by thinking it was RL is was in that was a dream.

Originally Posted by whitedreams

...then headed for the door, to get distracted by the hardwood flloors. I soon woke up after staring at the hardwood floors. "

That's hilarious. In Castaneda's books, that's exactly what happens. I forget if he actually has the wood dream of if his teacher just warns that he can get caught in a universe of detail. But it like one of the very first things in the book. Funny it's the first pitfall you run into to, exactly the same.

I call it the second rule of dream control, the more attention you give something, the more attention it creates. It can be a trap if you don't recognize it for what it is, and a tool if you do.

Coupled with the emotion thing I mentioned earlier (my third rule of dream control), that's how nightmare start. Something scary or threatening catches your attention, the more you look, the more it grows. The more it grows, the more dangerous it gets, the more it demands your attention. Like the wood thing, dreams can easily get trapped in these types of loops.

And since I already mentioned the second and third rules, the first is Everything requires your attention to exist. Now you know all you need to know to go out and rock the dream world.

[QUOTE=The Cusp;1799431]I'm going to guess this was some sort of WILD or WBTB?

No this was just , idk i dont really use any techniques, perhaps i should? i dont think ive ever had a lucid dream as a result of these methods other than just mediating which got me there once. Do you reccomend any for a dreamer like me? and thank you for the rules you have given me, as far as the third rule goes, do you think that i should try and face the monsters or scary parts of my dream and give them attention but while believing them to be non threatening?

Originally Posted by The Cusp

While I tend to agree that life is a dream, it's not a very practical way to conceptualize lucid dreaming in practice. It severely limits your control options in that it makes you care too much about the scenarios you find yourself in. Like if a monster wants to destroy the world, you have no choice but to use your lucid powers to stop it if you think that this is a real life lucid. But if you know it's a dream, a true dream, you're not bound by the story.

I don't understand this distinction.. "real life lucid/true dream" ?

Isn't there just one basic rule to lucid dreaming? You need to get lucid first.. that initial impulse of 'thought', or whatever you want to call it..