Thread: Why do people think LD is bad?

Originally Posted by Reclypso

Parents are just ignorant in general, they don't care what kids have to say and they certainly wont accept new ideas that they've never heard of from a kid. Just say fine Mom I don't mind that you don't take any interest in any of my hobbies and just shoot them down, your a great Mom. It works I've done it

I talked to my parents for non stop about lucid dreaming for 3 weeks straight, I told them everything there was to know about it. Guess what my mom says at the end of the 3 weeks? Derrick what's a lucid dream? I don't quite understand...
I was like really all that time I talked to you, you were oblivious...

I think its just mom opinion. Its not like mom ignores it, she just doesn't care for it and I might just not bring it up to her.

Yes something about being a parent messes up your mind, maybe its the years of having every screw-assed thing you say be believed like it is a proven fact and you get to lay down rules crazier and more absolute than any mad dictator could ever hope too! Also I'm sure it is hard to give someone full respect after you've had to teach them how NOT to poop their pants. Anything that comes out of your mouth now is competing with all the stupid things you have ever done, their parents do the same thing. In fact you could get your grand parents to tell you "silly stories" of your parents, away from your parent of course or they'll put an end to if they can. Then you'd get a great insight into what your parents are really like. You don't know your parent till you see them as the little kids they were!


But I have seen a fear from people when talking about LD.
They are not religious but people truly fear LDing. Some people are so scared of "tampering" with their minds.
"Its not natural!" goes the argument and I'll say "but then neither is wiping your ass with scented toilet paper, so why don't you stop being a hypocrite and do it the natural way with your bare hands, I mean because natural is the only thing for you right?"lol
This is where they start searching for a smart comeback then I say,
"You know what else isn't natural reading or doing math! But you see I'm not a caveman, I need to harness the power of my mind and not let it run crazy over my life so I can be a fully functioning and civilized member of the world."

Actually considering how much our minds are needed, more in more, in our fast passed technological world, it is a huge wonder how few do anything to improve their minds and still function at all!

Originally Posted by Rilly

In my opinion, normal dreams are delusions because you think it's real.
Lucid dreams are not because you know it's just a dream.

Wow so true. haha that really spoke to me.

I just keep lucid dreaming VERY VERY secret. I mean, REALLY secret. I write my DJs in a cipher and encrypt them with RSA when I type them into the computer. Seriously. Not because my parents will think it's bad, but it's so strange to many people. Oh I guess that won't be a big deal, since everybody knows I'm a strange geek who is obsessed with computers and science. I'll explain everything after I finish Lucid Dream Markup Language.

I have a great idea. You can wait until your school has a science fair or something like that and then you do a presentation on lucid dreaming. That'll clear things up and give you enough uninterrupted time to make your parents listen

Originally Posted by ludr

I just keep lucid dreaming VERY VERY secret. I mean, REALLY secret. I write my DJs in a cipher and encrypt them with RSA when I type them into the computer. Seriously. Not because my parents will think it's bad, but it's so strange to many people. Oh I guess that won't be a big deal, since everybody knows I'm a strange geek who is obsessed with computers and science. I'll explain everything after I finish Lucid Dream Markup Language.

I have a great idea. You can wait until your school has a science fair or something like that and then you do a presentation on lucid dreaming. That'll clear things up and give you enough uninterrupted time to make your parents listen

I can definitely relate to this. I really keep it to myself. Any time a discussion about dreams in general comes up, I kind of ignore it and act uninterested lol. I want to tell someone soon, though. It would be cool to have friends that lucid dream as well.

Also, I used to not let ANYONE touch my iPod. That's where I kept my DJ. Oh boy, if someone found it...
But I'm ok with DV members reading my entries at least

Why would anyone be embarrassed about lucid dreaming that is literally just stupid. Something as small as this shouldn't have to be hidden get over your embarrassment everyone, I've told everyone I know no one has thought I was weird because of it. All you have to do is explain it they are either interested or not interested. Which you will find out the first time they talk to you or if they never talk about it again.

Originally Posted by Caden

Yes something about being a parent messes up your mind, maybe its the years of having every screw-assed thing you say be believed like it is a proven fact and you get to lay down rules crazier and more absolute than any mad dictator could ever hope too! Also I'm sure it is hard to give someone full respect after you've had to teach them how NOT to poop their pants. Anything that comes out of your mouth now is competing with all the stupid things you have ever done, their parents do the same thing. In fact you could get your grand parents to tell you "silly stories" of your parents, away from your parent of course or they'll put an end to if they can. Then you'd get a great insight into what your parents are really like. You don't know your parent till you see them as the little kids they were!


But I have seen a fear from people when talking about LD.
They are not religious but people truly fear LDing. Some people are so scared of "tampering" with their minds.
"Its not natural!" goes the argument and I'll say "but then neither is wiping your ass with scented toilet paper, so why don't you stop being a hypocrite and do it the natural way with your bare hands, I mean because natural is the only thing for you right?"lol
This is where they start searching for a smart comeback then I say,
"You know what else isn't natural reading or doing math! But you see I'm not a caveman, I need to harness the power of my mind and not let it run crazy over my life so I can be a fully functioning and civilized member of the world."

Actually considering how much our minds are needed, more in more, in our fast passed technological world, it is a huge wonder how few do anything to improve their minds and still function at all!

Well some people cant handle the idea of creepy weird experiences. I still am a little creeped out, but when i enter a lucid dream i feel differently.

Originally Posted by ludr

I just keep lucid dreaming VERY VERY secret. I mean, REALLY secret. I write my DJs in a cipher and encrypt them with RSA when I type them into the computer. Seriously. Not because my parents will think it's bad, but it's so strange to many people. Oh I guess that won't be a big deal, since everybody knows I'm a strange geek who is obsessed with computers and science. I'll explain everything after I finish Lucid Dream Markup Language.

I have a great idea. You can wait until your school has a science fair or something like that and then you do a presentation on lucid dreaming. That'll clear things up and give you enough uninterrupted time to make your parents listen

You shouldn't keep LDing a secret, that's letting the people around you win. I don't keep it a secret and my mom thinks its cookoo.

Originally Posted by Reclypso

Why would anyone be embarrassed about lucid dreaming that is literally just stupid. Something as small as this shouldn't have to be hidden get over your embarrassment everyone, I've told everyone I know no one has thought I was weird because of it. All you have to do is explain it they are either interested or not interested. Which you will find out the first time they talk to you or if they never talk about it again.

I agree.

Originally Posted by pepsibluefan

At least your mom doesn't think its witchcraft. *cough* *cough& my mom *cough*

My youngest brother told my mom that, and she believed him, what made it worse is that my mom is very religious.
Eventually she found the paper I had printed out on Lucid Dreaming read it and got a better understanding but still doesn't like it.

i agree, parents don't listen alot of times. it's like they can't except the fact that their kid might know something they don't.

It drives me crazy when people think lucid dreaming is delusional. By definition, It is the exact OPPOSITE. You are training yourself to be able to tell the difference between reality and dreams. By doing this, you learn to recognize and appreciate the differences between the two states. Most lucid dreaming practices teach you to be more aware in your everyday life. This creates a richer and more enjoyable life, even without the dreaming component.

My parents don't understand it either. But then again, parents aren't really supported of anything their kids like.

I see a common theme of bad parenting here

Originally Posted by Robot_Butler

It drives me crazy when people think lucid dreaming is delusional. By definition, It is the exact OPPOSITE. You are training yourself to be able to tell the difference between reality and dreams. By doing this, you learn to recognize and appreciate the differences between the two states. Most lucid dreaming practices teach you to be more aware in your everyday life. This creates a richer and more enjoyable life, even without the dreaming component.

I agree, but people often view things outside the scope of common perception as wrong.

Originally Posted by Yomi

My youngest brother told my mom that, and she believed him, what made it worse is that my mom is very religious.
Eventually she found the paper I had printed out on Lucid Dreaming read it and got a better understanding but still doesn't like it.

lol. I cant believe that its 2011 and people still are superstisiouse and believe in witchcraft. What some don't get is that "witchcraft" is just the product of a strong mind effecting its own reality. I believe that it is just a cover up for things we don't yet understand.

I pretty much get the same response from my mom. It used to frustrate me really bad, because she kept telling me I was crazy, basically. I stopped talking to her about in months ago. If I'm crazy, then I guess all lucid dreamers are as well. I'm just gonna keep it up, I don't see a reason not to. It's fun and insightful, and those who don't understand it just don't understand it. Just like we don't understand why they think it's "bad". No use in arguing over it.

By now I've probably told at least twenty people about my LDing.
I actually just finished running in school elections and I had distributed brochures that had a small, slightly-detailed section called "I lucid dream". Everyone was fascinated; I didn't see anyone who thought it was weird or stupid. Younger people are more open to it, I think.

Question: Why do (some) people think LD is bad?

Possible answers:

1.) Some people don't know what lucid dreaming actually is, a.k.a they are not educated on the subject.
2.) Some people have certain religious beliefs that make them think meditation is bad, or yoga for instance, or in this case lucid dreaming.
3.) Some people believe too much lucid dreaming can cause problems distinguishing dreams from reality.
4.) Some people are just stooopid.

Originally Posted by Osmodin

My mother and I had an argument this morning about my new favorite hobby lucid dreaming. Mom keeps telling me that its not real, as if I am delusional. I keep trying to tell mom that I dont care if its real or not, that I just care about the experience. Mom of course thinks this is dumb and the begining of delusional thinking. Mom keeps saying its not real, "If I dream that I am rich I wont wake up rich." is her favorite. Mom just doesnt get why I do it. I feel like i am the only one who does. I still remember telling some stranger i met at school about it. She was a teacher and of course she was concerned if i was taking "stuff" for it. Why do people think lucid dreaming is harmful and why dont they understand doing something for the expereince reguardless of if its real or not? Its like people automatically think anything outside of the "norm" is bad and "aught not to be done." Mom I told mom that other people do it to and she just said that anyone who would put effort into a "not real" dream needs help. I guess ill just keep doing as usual because I have actually done it and know i am not delusional.

Originally Posted by Puffin

Some people don't appreciate creativity and imagination. And some simply just don't understand the benefits of lucid dreaming, because they are unfamiliar with it and are too quick to judge what they believe it is. They're too grounded into the real world to realize that there's something else out there, practically right under their noses.

Ditto. The only thing that is different is that your spending un-used time to enhance and use your brain more. The only real risk, and a slight one at that, would be if you thought that reality and dreaming were switched. You would probably have to be cracked from the beginning for that to happen though

Originally Posted by Puffin

By now I've probably told at least twenty people about my LDing.
I actually just finished running in school elections and I had distributed brochures that had a small, slightly-detailed section called "I lucid dream". Everyone was fascinated; I didn't see anyone who thought it was weird or stupid. Younger people are more open to it, I think.

(off topic, sorry), Did you win?

Originally Posted by Jakob

Question: Why do (some) people think LD is bad?

Possible answers:

1.) Some people don't know what lucid dreaming actually is, a.k.a they are not educated on the subject.
2.) Some people have certain religious beliefs that make them think meditation is bad, or yoga for instance, or in this case lucid dreaming.
3.) Some people believe too much lucid dreaming can cause problems distinguishing dreams from reality.
4.) Some people are just stooopid.

I think that beliefes like that stem from people not wanting other people to think. Meditation being bad.

Originally Posted by Jeff777

lol

Many people like to believe that because they don't/can't see it or do it, it's not real. It's dumb and extremely close-minded but it happens and there's not much that can be done. It's not like she can keep you from lucid dreaming.

Originally Posted by Anthonyyy0

(off topic, sorry), Did you win?

Yes, I'm the new arts head for my school! ^_^

My parents don't really support anything I do, they just try and convince me to play sports and i'm like "uh, no" .

Simple. Because its not a Usual Thing people normally do/realise at night.