i agree, it was a funny conversation. It makes no difference what it is called. If you call a skinny person a tub of lard, then they will remain a beanpole.

P.S. if we read Hyu's last Yuya-related entry, she said so herself she's a spirit, if you wanna get technical. of course it could be an elaborate scheme made by Hyu's sub-c to make him think that all this is real, but it was the whole shocking-awake thing in the OP that makes me wonder.