Thread: Extremely odd Lucid ability.

Originally Posted by onyxfyre

i heard of this dude who made a dream last a lifetime

Yeahhh... *rolls eyes* The only way he could do that is if he was getting back the memory from a past life.

I like the idea of constantly watching a clock. Should make it easier to stay in the dream. Thanks, I'll give it a go.

You was lucid dreaming before learn this technique, right?
So you go lucid, make a white environment with just a digital clock and just watch it or you have to think that it is going slower and slower?

I will try this, but here's the thing. To do this, you need to be lucid in a dream. Not alot of people can LD every night. Skullyy, what is your technique to induce lucid dreams?

Originally Posted by rynkrt3

Not alot of people can LD every night.

Quick tip: If you are able to sleep in the next morning, try going to sleep earlier. Usually if you go to bed at a late time you will be too tired in the early morning to put in any effort. However, if you go to bed earlier, then you might be refreshed enough to put in effort for a LD.

Hm, so your technique needs a blank site, as oppossed to mine, I use a clock/counting while focusing on the dream with some part of my body.

Blimey

I have heard of similar investigations, but nothing conclusive seems to have come from it. There is of course anecdotal evidence for extreme time dialation in dreams, but until now I have seen no firsthand accounts or reproduceable instructions. I heard of one person who claimed to have a dream that lasted 100 years, but that was always held a little suspect.

Laberge conducted a study the results of which suggested that time in dreams passes at the same rate as time outside of dreams. However, I do not think his subjects tried anything to affect their dreaming time. Perhaps if some of us could get onto this we could reproduce his experiment during such a dream.

Do you also have long normal dreams or are only your lucid dreams long?

You should hold a class for this.

so your saying you sat and watched a clock for 2 years?

yea right.

Originally Posted by zoot

so your saying you sat and watched a clock for 2 years?

yea right.

No, he watched a clock in a dream that was (at the time) regular length for several weeks, which somehow led to two-year-long LDs.

thats fascinating. ive had quite a few dreams that feel like ive been on holiday for a week or so, but they are usually just below the lucidity line and only have occasional brief periods of awareness. are you lucid the whole time?

there is something in the carlos castaneda series of books about learning how to stop or slow your perception of time. during acid trips ive definately experienced places where time doesnt exist and it feels like you could be there forever. however if you can control it that sounds like the ultimate lucid ability you have there, although it even stretches my idea of whats possible. is there any way you can explain that feeling of detachment from reality and the possible implications of it. i know its hard...

I don't quite believe in this account, but I am very fascinated by time-dilation, I think it can be done to a lesser extend.

Just wow.

I've got a few questions to ask that are going to help me attempt this technique(when I can ld easily).
- Now you say "everynight", is that exact or was it 1 or 2 nights a week? Could you make a rough estimat.
- What induction technique do you use?
- Do you have a special mind-set when you done the 2 year dream? Or did you go into the dream and decide when lucid?
- with the extended dreams, do you feel like anyone could learn it, or do you believe the traumatic event could have played a role in helping learn this skill?

Thank you.

-Peace.

Some people should just watch some DBZ



Edit: Very nice tips of time dilatation, thank you. A tip for you don't escape reality (and that is very likely since this is extreme and you are young), is to train your memory/recall in those long dreams, the same way you did with time dilatation.

I think that those which don't have much lucids (like me) should imagine things in real life, instead of in the dream.

So, Skully, are you saying you live two years of dream life in one night? Or you have been serially dreaming for two years?

Thanks for sharing. I am extremely interested to know about your second life dreams, as I and some friends also have serial second life dreams.

Extremly facinating stuff!

Very interesting!
But there's one thing I don't understand. When you are lucid, you create an endless white space, and just one clock you are watching. Then what happens? You stop, and the dream will last forever, or what? (Well, not forever, but you know what I mean )

I've always been interested in time dilation,I just find it fascinating.But still as others have said it's very difficult to believe it unless you've experienced it yourself.I also have a question about your method.I think I might try it when I have more time

ahahah ketsuyume that's the FIRST thing I thought after reading this post.. "like in DBZ?"

Thanks for sharing your technique Skullyy.. I actually had my first xperience involving "time dilation" last night unintentionially in a non-lucid that lasted for two days consistantly. Pretty good timing with this post then. I haven't developed enough progress with LDing to attempt this yet, but I will practice staring at a clock and watching seconds pass as a secondary practice while awake and eventually test it out in the dream state, or see if my dreams become longer within he next few weeks.

Thanks much, hope you stick around on the forums, lots of smart dreamers here.

Originally Posted by cedward1

Blimey
Laberge conducted a study the results of which suggested that time in dreams passes at the same rate as time outside of dreams. However, I do not think his subjects tried anything to affect their dreaming time.

After looking into this a little more, I see that there has indeed been research conducted that supports time dialation and the ability of lucid dreamers to control time in their dreams.

Something I wonder is this - if during a dream someone could have years of experiences, can the waking mind be trained to think the equivalent of years of thoughts in just a few minutes? The mind would have to be working that fast in a two-year long dream, wouldn't it? That would be an impressive ability.

I won't be able do this until I can master dream recall. (or just remember my dreams regularly.)

I've had this on a much smaller scale. I remember waking up at 5:34 in the morning, going back to sleep almost immediately and having a dream that lasted a few hours (in dream time); then waking up again at 5:47 am. It's definitely a weird feeling..."what? It's not time to get up yet??"

Interesting, my theory about this is that since you are sitting down and doing pretty much nothing, it calms you down and as you calm down, your dream stabilizes. So then in theory, just about anything that is boring or will calm you down in your dream should make the dream stabilize and last much longer than normal.

If this is the case, then I recommend that you can like Skully suggested, use a blank white space and stay there or just stay in a regular environment but instead of being excited and flying, just simply walk around for a few minutes, or if you wish to go to the extreme for a few days. It should stabilize the dream.